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Calvin <334152@gmail.com>: Jul 12 02:45PM -0700

1 Name either of the two books of the Old Testament which are named after women?
2 What is the name of the stock market index for the Tokyo Stock Exchange?
3 In Norse mythology where do the souls of heroes killed in battle go?
4 What is the opposite of nocturnal?
5 The Lascaux caves in south-western France are famous for their Palaeolithic cave paintings of which animals?
6 Who is currently serving a life sentence for the assassination of Robert Kennedy in 1968?
7 Which character did William Shatner portray in the TV series Boston Legal?
8 In the Pink Panther films, what exactly was the Pink Panther?
9 Which city, a former Scottish capital, is located midway between Edinburgh and Glasgow and known as the Gateway to the Highlands?
10 What is the only country in the world that has just one vowel in its name? [excluding Y]
 
 
cheers,
calvin
msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Jul 12 06:54PM -0500

Calvin:
> 1 Name either of the two books of the Old Testament which are
> named after women?
 
Ruth.
 
> 2 What is the name of the stock market index for the Tokyo Stock
> Exchange?
 
Nikkei.
 
> 3 In Norse mythology where do the souls of heroes killed in battle go?
 
Valhalla.
 
> 4 What is the opposite of nocturnal?
 
Diurnal.
 
> 5 The Lascaux caves in south-western France are famous for their
> Palaeolithic cave paintings of which animals?
 
Bulls.
 
> 6 Who is currently serving a life sentence for the assassination of
> Robert Kennedy in 1968?
 
Sirhan.
 
> 7 Which character did William Shatner portray in the TV series
> Boston Legal?
 
Denny Crane. Denny Crane.
 
> 8 In the Pink Panther films, what exactly was the Pink Panther?
 
There were at least two: (1) An animated character in the credit
sequences, later the title character in his own TV series. And
(2) a rather large diamond whose pink flaw was fancied to resemble
a panther. Also (3) in some of the later movies the title appeared
to refer to Inspector Clouseau.
 
> 9 Which city, a former Scottish capital, is located midway between
> Edinburgh and Glasgow and known as the Gateway to the Highlands?
 
Perth.
 
> 10 What is the only country in the world that has just one vowel in its
> name? [excluding Y]
 
Rather a bizarre way of counting, but I suppose you mean Cyprus.
--
Mark Brader "I used to think that the name C++
Toronto was a euphemism for D-."
msb@vex.net --Peter Moylan
 
My text in this article is in the public domain.
"Chris F.A. Johnson" <cfajohnson@cfaj.ca>: Jul 12 07:32PM -0400

On 2015-07-12, Calvin wrote:
> 1 Name either of the two books of the Old Testament which are named after women?
 
Esther
 
> 2 What is the name of the stock market index for the Tokyo Stock Exchange?
 
Nikkei
 
> 3 In Norse mythology where do the souls of heroes killed in battle go?
 
Valhalla
 
> 4 What is the opposite of nocturnal?
 
Diurnal
 
> 5 The Lascaux caves in south-western France are famous for their Palaeolithic cave paintings of which animals?
 
Deer
 
> 6 Who is currently serving a life sentence for the assassination of Robert Kennedy in 1968?
 
Sirhan Sirhan
 
> 7 Which character did William Shatner portray in the TV series Boston Legal?
> 8 In the Pink Panther films, what exactly was the Pink Panther?
 
A jewel thief
 
> 9 Which city, a former Scottish capital, is located midway between Edinburgh and Glasgow and known as the Gateway to the Highlands?
 
Stirling (?)
 
> 10 What is the only country in the world that has just one vowel in its name? [excluding Y]
 
Chad (if you don't count Y as a vowel, also Cyprus)
 
--
Chris F.A. Johnson
msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Jul 12 08:19PM -0500

"Calvin":
>> 10 What is the only country in the world that has just one vowel in
>> its name? [excluding Y]
 
Chris Johnson:
> Chad (if you don't count Y as a vowel, also Cyprus)
 
Oh for crying out loud, Calvin! If you meant "has just one vowel",
why didn't you just *say* "has just one vowel" instead of adding that
misleading note? I stopped when I got to Cyprus because I assumed it
was the intended answer.
 
Checking by computer search, I find that there are in fact two *more*
countries have each have one or more Y's but only one other vowel.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto | "Winning isn't everything, but not trying to win
msb@vex.net | is less than nothing." --Anton van Uitert
 
My text in this article is in the public domain.
swp <Stephen.W.Perry@gmail.com>: Jul 12 07:33PM -0700

On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:45:40 PM UTC-4, Calvin wrote:
> 1 Name either of the two books of the Old Testament which are named after women?
 
ruth (the other is esther)
 
> 2 What is the name of the stock market index for the Tokyo Stock Exchange?
 
nikkei
 
> 3 In Norse mythology where do the souls of heroes killed in battle go?
 
valhalla
 
> 4 What is the opposite of nocturnal?
 
diurnal
 
> 5 The Lascaux caves in south-western France are famous for their Palaeolithic cave paintings of which animals?
 
horses and oxen
 
> 6 Who is currently serving a life sentence for the assassination of Robert Kennedy in 1968?
 
sirhan sirhan
 
> 7 Which character did William Shatner portray in the TV series Boston Legal?
 
denny crane
 
> 8 In the Pink Panther films, what exactly was the Pink Panther?
 
a diamond
 
> 9 Which city, a former Scottish capital, is located midway between Edinburgh and Glasgow and known as the Gateway to the Highlands?
 
stirling
 
> 10 What is the only country in the world that has just one vowel in its name? [excluding Y]
 
chad
 
 
swp
swp <Stephen.W.Perry@gmail.com>: Jul 12 07:35PM -0700

On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 9:19:53 PM UTC-4, Mark Brader wrote:
> Mark Brader, Toronto | "Winning isn't everything, but not trying to win
> msb@vex.net | is less than nothing." --Anton van Uitert
 
> My text in this article is in the public domain.
 
I thought about it and came up with these if I included the 'y':
cyprus
egypt
kyrgyzstan
 
did I miss any?
 
swp
msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Jul 12 10:12PM -0500

Stephen Perry:
> did I miss any?
 
I said there were two more and you found two more. What do you think?
--
Mark Brader | "If you have to go in, you go in.
Toronto | The choice was made the day you took your oath."
msb@vex.net | --Dan Duddy, New York Fire Department
swp <Stephen.W.Perry@gmail.com>: Jul 12 08:14PM -0700

On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 11:12:47 PM UTC-4, Mark Brader wrote:
> Mark Brader | "If you have to go in, you go in.
> Toronto | The choice was made the day you took your oath."
> msb@vex.net | --Dan Duddy, New York Fire Department
 
I was assuming that you may have been incorrect. 'st. kitts' for example, which I discounted because of the abbreviation but wasn't sure if others did as well.
 
swp
msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Jul 12 11:22PM -0500

Stephen Perry:
>>> did I miss any?
 
Mark Brader:
>> I said there were two more and you found two more. What do you think?
 
Stephen Perry:
> I was assuming that you may have been incorrect.
 
!
 
> 'st. kitts' for example, which I discounted because of the abbreviation...
 
It's St. Kitts and Nevis.
 
At this point I am reminded of the old chestnut, "What is the only
station on the London Underground with no letters in common with
the word MACKEREL?" The only possible answer is St. John's Wood
(on the Jubilee Line), but as you see, it only works if you leave
the abbreviation unexpanded.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto | This is Programming as a True Art Form, where style
msb@vex.net | is more important than correctness... --Pontus Hedman
 
My text in this article is in the public domain.
Dan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com>: Jul 12 09:41PM -0700

Calvin wrote:
> 1 Name either of the two books of the Old Testament which are named after women?
 
Ruth
 
> 2 What is the name of the stock market index for the Tokyo Stock Exchange?
 
Nikei
 
> 3 In Norse mythology where do the souls of heroes killed in battle go?
 
Valhalla
 
> 4 What is the opposite of nocturnal?
 
diurnal
 
> 5 The Lascaux caves in south-western France are famous for their Palaeolithic cave paintings of which animals?
 
hunted animals
 
(not sure what you're looking for here; there's more than one kind of
animal depicted in the paintings)
 
> 6 Who is currently serving a life sentence for the assassination of Robert Kennedy in 1968?
 
Sirhan Sirhan
 
> 7 Which character did William Shatner portray in the TV series Boston Legal?
 
T J Hooker
 
> 8 In the Pink Panther films, what exactly was the Pink Panther?
 
jewel (diamond?) with an inclusion in the shape of a panther
 
> 9 Which city, a former Scottish capital, is located midway between Edinburgh and Glasgow and known as the Gateway to the Highlands?
 
Inverness
 
> 10 What is the only country in the world that has just one vowel in its name? [excluding Y]
 
Chad
 
 
 
--
Dan Tilque
Marc Dashevsky <usenet@MarcDashevsky.com>: Jul 13 01:54AM -0500

In article <2984e334-681a-44fd-8267-d00430cf30a5@googlegroups.com>, 334152@gmail.com says...
 
> 1 Name either of the two books of the Old Testament which are named after women?
Ruth
 
> 2 What is the name of the stock market index for the Tokyo Stock Exchange?
Nikkei
 
> 3 In Norse mythology where do the souls of heroes killed in battle go?
Valhalla
 
> 4 What is the opposite of nocturnal?
diurnal
 
> 5 The Lascaux caves in south-western France are famous for their Palaeolithic cave paintings of which animals?
horse, auroch, etc.
 
> 6 Who is currently serving a life sentence for the assassination of Robert Kennedy in 1968?
Sirhan Sirhan (I may have the names reversed.)
 
> 7 Which character did William Shatner portray in the TV series Boston Legal?
Denny Crane
 
> 8 In the Pink Panther films, what exactly was the Pink Panther?
diamond
 
> 9 Which city, a former Scottish capital, is located midway between Edinburgh and Glasgow and known as the Gateway to the Highlands?
> 10 What is the only country in the world that has just one vowel in its name? [excluding Y]
Chad
 
 
 
 
--
Replace "usenet" with "marc" in the e-mail address.
"David B" <askforemail@gmail.com>: Jul 13 09:44AM +0100

1 Name either of the two books of the Old Testament which are named after
women?
 
Jude.
 
2 What is the name of the stock market index for the Tokyo Stock Exchange?
 
Nikkei.
 
3 In Norse mythology where do the souls of heroes killed in battle go?
 
Valhalla.
 
4 What is the opposite of nocturnal?
 
Diurnal.
 
5 The Lascaux caves in south-western France are famous for their
Palaeolithic cave paintings of which animals?
 
Bison?
 
6 Who is currently serving a life sentence for the assassination of Robert
Kennedy in 1968?
7 Which character did William Shatner portray in the TV series Boston Legal?
8 In the Pink Panther films, what exactly was the Pink Panther?
 
A diamond.
 
9 Which city, a former Scottish capital, is located midway between Edinburgh
and Glasgow and known as the Gateway to the Highlands?
 
Stirling?
 
10 What is the only country in the world that has just one vowel in its
name? [excluding Y]
 
Cyprus.
--
David B
http://waterfalls.me.uk
Erland Sommarskog <esquel@sommarskog.se>: Jul 13 11:07AM +0200

> 1 Name either of the two books of the Old Testament which are named
> after women?
 
Esther and Ruth
 
> 2 What is the name of the stock market index for the Tokyo Stock
> Exchange?
 
Nikkei
 
> 3 In Norse mythology where do the souls of heroes killed in battle go?
 
Midgård
 
> 4 What is the opposite of nocturnal?
 
Diurnal
 
> 10 What is the only country in the world that has just one vowel in
> its name? [excluding Y]
 
Chad
 
 
 
--
Erland Sommarskog, Stockholm, esquel@sommarskog.se
"Björn Lundin" <b.f.lundin@gmail.com>: Jul 13 12:34PM +0200

On 2015-07-12 23:45, Calvin wrote:
> 1 Name either of the two books of the Old Testament which are named after women?
> 2 What is the name of the stock market index for the Tokyo Stock Exchange?
> 3 In Norse mythology where do the souls of heroes killed in battle go?
Valhall
> 4 What is the opposite of nocturnal?
daily?
> 5 The Lascaux caves in south-western France are famous for their Palaeolithic cave paintings of which animals?
Horses
> 6 Who is currently serving a life sentence for the assassination of Robert Kennedy in 1968?
> 7 Which character did William Shatner portray in the TV series Boston Legal?
> 8 In the Pink Panther films, what exactly was the Pink Panther?
A thief
> 9 Which city, a former Scottish capital, is located midway between Edinburgh and Glasgow and known as the Gateway to the Highlands?
Inverness?
> 10 What is the only country in the world that has just one vowel in its name? [excluding Y]
Yemen? (but there are two of the vowel 'e'. Cananda would fit too then)
 
 
--
--
Björn
"Björn Lundin" <b.f.lundin@gmail.com>: Jul 13 12:38PM +0200

On 2015-07-13 11:07, Erland Sommarskog wrote:
>> 3 In Norse mythology where do the souls of heroes killed in battle go?
 
> Midgård
 
Thinking of Asgård?
Midgård is Earth, isn't it?
 
 
--
--
Björn
Calvin <334152@gmail.com>: Jul 12 02:44PM -0700

On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 9:54:05 AM UTC+10, Calvin wrote:
 
> 1 The island of Trinidad lies off the coast of which South American country?
 
Venezuela
 
> 2 Lord Darnley was the father of which British king?
 
James I
 
> 3 According to both MTV and VH1, which New York trio (originally comprising Joseph Simmons, Darryl McDaniels, and Jam Master Jay) is the greatest hip-hop group of all time?
 
Run DMC
 
> 4 Which Irish actor and comedian played Bernard Black in the TV comedy series Black Books?
 
Dylan Moran
 
> 5 Which Irish actor played PL Travers alcoholic father in 2013 film Saving Mr Banks?
 
Colin Farrell
Singleton to Chris
 
 
> 6 According to Napoleon, England was a nation of what?
 
Shopkeepers
Giggle points to Erland for Rascals :-)
 
> 7 What does the fashion label acronym FCUK stand for?
 
French Connection, United Kingdom
 
> 8 Which world leader officially opened the 1980 Summer Olympics?
 
Leonid Brezhnev
Jimmy Carter was an interesting guess
 
> 9 What name is given to a mountain railway where the carriages are pulled uphill by a cable?
 
Funicular
 
> 10 Which French radical stabbed Jean-Paul Marat to death in 1793?
 
Charlotte Corday
 
Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Q5 Q6 Q7 Q8 Q9 Q10 TOTAL TB Quiz 400
1 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 9 45 Stephen Perry
1 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 6 30 Chris Johnson
0 1 0 1 0 1 1 1 1 0 6 31 Peter Smyth
1 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 6 37 Mark Brader
1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 0 5 30 David Brown
1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 4 26 Marc Dashevsky
1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 3 24 Erland S
1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 3 24 Pete Gayde
1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 2 15 Dan Tilque
1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 2 16 Bjorn Lundin
- - - - - - - - - - --- ----------
9 3 2 3 1 6 4 7 8 3 46 46%
 
That was a very tough set. Congratulations SWP on what I suspect is the widest victory margin in CQ history.

cheers,
calvin
msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Jul 12 06:46PM -0500

"Calvin":
> > 10 Which French radical stabbed Jean-Paul Marat to death in 1793?
> Charlotte Corday
 
Interesting. I remembered the surname but forgot it was a woman.
 
> Congratulations SWP on what I suspect is the widest victory margin in CQ history.
 
Hear, hear.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto "As long as that blue light is on, the
msb@vex.net computer is safe." -- Hot Millions
swp <Stephen.W.Perry@gmail.com>: Jul 12 07:27PM -0700

On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 7:46:01 PM UTC-4, Mark Brader wrote:
> --
> Mark Brader, Toronto "As long as that blue light is on, the
> msb@vex.net computer is safe." -- Hot Millions
 
thank you, eaCh.
 
swp
Dan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com>: Jul 12 05:42AM -0700

Mark Brader wrote:
> doing something, they change city names, claiming that they are
> replacing the British name with something more Indian.
 
> 1. What was the former name of the city that is now called Chennai?
 
Madras ??
 
 
> 2. What is the current name of the city that the British called
> Bombay?
 
Mumbai
 
 
> * ID the Island
 
> In each case, give the name of the principal island shown on the map.
 
> 4. http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-3/land/4.jpg
 
Borneo
 
> 5. http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-3/land/5.jpg
 
Maui
 
(been there)
 
> 6. http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-3/land/6.jpg
 
Honshu
 
> what is the most populous urban agglomeration (i.e. metropolitan
> area) in...
 
> 7. South America?
 
Rio de Janiero
 
> 8. Europe?
 
Cologne-Bonn
 
> 9. Africa?
 
Lagos; Pretoria-Johannesburg
 
 
> We'll give you the names of all the African countries that border
> another country -- and you name that other country.
 
> 10. Burundi, Tanzania, DR Congo, Uganda.
 
Rwanda
 
> 11. Botswana, Mozambique, South Africa, Zambia.
 
Zimbabwe
 
> say which of them is farthest north. All cities within a group
> will differ by at least 4° of latitude.
 
> 13. Cairo, Egypt; Osaka, Japan; Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
 
Osaka
 
 
> 14. Harare, Zimbabwe; Lima, Peru; São Paulo, Brazil.
 
Harare
 
 
> 15. Colombo, Sri Lanka; Darwin, Australia; Quito, Ecuador.
 
Colombo
 
(this one's easy -- Quito is smack on the equator, the other two
countries are completely north or south of that.)
 
--
Dan Tilque
Calvin <334152@gmail.com>: Jul 12 02:53PM -0700

On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 1:40:47 PM UTC+10, Mark Brader wrote:
 
> ** Final, Round 3 - Geography
 
> * Indian City Names
 
> 1. What was the former name of the city that is now called Chennai?
 
Madras
 
> 2. What is the current name of the city that the British called
> Bombay?
 
Mumbai
 
> 3. The city formerly called Bangalore also has a new name.
> What is it?
 
No idea
 
 
> * ID the Island
 
> In each case, give the name of the principal island shown on the map.
 
> 4. http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-3/land/4.jpg
 
Borneo
 
> 5. http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-3/land/5.jpg
 
Oahu, Hawaii
 
> 6. http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-3/land/6.jpg
 
Honshu
 
> what is the most populous urban agglomeration (i.e. metropolitan
> area) in...
 
> 7. South America?
 
Sao Paolo
 
> 8. Europe?
 
London, Moscow
 
> 9. Africa?
 
Lagos, Cairo
 
 
> We'll give you the names of all the African countries that border
> another country -- and you name that other country.
 
> 10. Burundi, Tanzania, DR Congo, Uganda.
 
Rwanda
 
> 11. Botswana, Mozambique, South Africa, Zambia.
 
Zimbabwe
 
> 12. Liberia, Burkina Faso, Guinea, Mali, Ghana.
 
Nigeria
 
> say which of them is farthest north. All cities within a group
> will differ by at least 4° of latitude.
 
> 13. Cairo, Egypt; Osaka, Japan; Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
 
Philly
 
> 14. Harare, Zimbabwe; Lima, Peru; São Paulo, Brazil.
 
Harare, Lima
 
> 15. Colombo, Sri Lanka; Darwin, Australia; Quito, Ecuador.
 
Colombo
 
cheers,
calvin
Erland Sommarskog <esquel@sommarskog.se>: Jul 12 02:18PM +0200

> I did some research and found 9 instances where an independent country
> outside Europe moved its capital since 1900. There's probably some I
> missed:
 
Yes, here are two that you missed - in the same country!
 
China: Beijing -> Nanjing (1927) -> Beijing (1949)
 
There is also Chongqing that was the capital from 1937, but as this was due
to the Sino-Japanese war, I prefer not to count it, just I don't count Paris
-> Vichy -> Paris.
 
There is also Putrajaya in Malaysia, but it only has status of a federative
administrative centre; Kuala Lumpur remains the captial.
 
> I also didn't look for capital city name changes. A couple I can think
> of, Rangoon -> Yangon and Peking -> Beijing, were just changes in
> Romanization. I'm not really sure they count as renamings.
 

Yeah, the last item on Mark's list was Cabo Verde renamed from Cape Verde.
That is of course only matter of renaming in the source Mark took the data
from.
 
Three capital renamings I can think of:
Alma Ata -> Almaty (Kazakhstan)
Frunze -> Bishkek (Kyrgyzsistan)
Salisbury -> Harare (Zimbabwe)
 
The Kazakh case is obviously pronounciation related, but it is puzzling,
beause "Alma Ata" means "apple father" in Kazakh. Maybe the actual
pronounciation had been reduced, and they decided to change the spelling
according.
 
Wikipedia says that the name of Frunze was done away with in 1991. As the
Soviet Union dismantled in late december, it seems like that this change
was before independence, but just shortly.
 
 
--
Erland Sommarskog, Stockholm, esquel@sommarskog.se
msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Jul 12 01:35PM -0500

Dan Tilque:
>> I also didn't look for capital city name changes. A couple I can think
>> of, Rangoon -> Yangon and Peking -> Beijing, were just changes in
>> Romanization. I'm not really sure they count as renamings.
 
Erland Sommarskog:
> Yeah, the last item on Mark's list was Cabo Verde renamed from Cape Verde.
> That is of course only matter of renaming in the source Mark took the data
> from.
 
No, it's a matter of an official request for the name Cabo Verde to be
used in all languages. I think Peking was changed the same way; I know
Ivory Coast was.
 
Incidentally, "Cabo Verde" just means "Green Cape". Why did we adopt
a name where one word was translated and not the other? I have no idea.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto | "We are informed many things,
msb@vex.net | some of them correct." --Greg Goss
 
My text in this article is in the public domain.
Erland Sommarskog <esquel@sommarskog.se>: Jul 12 09:33PM +0200

> No, it's a matter of an official request for the name Cabo Verde to be
> used in all languages. I think Peking was changed the same way; I know
> Ivory Coast was.
 
That is not going to stop us Swedes from calling them Kapverde(-öarna) and
Elfenbenskusten respectively. And for that matter Peking.

 
--
Erland Sommarskog, Stockholm, esquel@sommarskog.se
Dan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com>: Jul 12 05:06AM -0700

Mark Brader wrote:
 
> No, it's a matter of an official request for the name Cabo Verde to be
> used in all languages. I think Peking was changed the same way; I know
> Ivory Coast was.
 
Peking -> Beijing was a result of the recognition of the Communist
Chinese government, which uses the Pinyin Romanization. Previously, we'd
recognized the RoC (Taiwan) government, who used (still use, AFAIK)
Wade-Giles Romanization. I don't recall if China made an explicit
request or not.
 
 
> Incidentally, "Cabo Verde" just means "Green Cape". Why did we adopt
> a name where one word was translated and not the other? I have no idea.
 
Possibly because it's fairly close to the English word. The same occured
with Bombay. That name comes from Bombaim, which is Portuguese for "good
bay".
 
As far as the Beijing -> Nanjing -> Beijing changes to China's capital,
I thought those were also due to war, or at least which areas of the
country were controlled by the ultimate winner during civil wars.
 
--
Dan Tilque
Erland Sommarskog <esquel@sommarskog.se>: Jul 12 11:40PM +0200

> recognized the RoC (Taiwan) government, who used (still use, AFAIK)
> Wade-Giles Romanization. I don't recall if China made an explicit
> request or not.
 
I believe that this is not only a romanisation thing. Peking is based on
a Cantonese pronounciation, as I recall.

> As far as the Beijing -> Nanjing -> Beijing changes to China's capital,
> I thought those were also due to war, or at least which areas of the
> country were controlled by the ultimate winner during civil wars.
 
Yes, there were some indications of this in Wikipedia.
 
There are many cities that have been capitals of China through the
centuries. It was the Mongols who founded Beijing on the remnants of
the Jurched's old capital. When the Mings ousted the Mongol Yuan dynasty,
they move the capital further south, but they were back in the North Capital
a few decades later.
 
 
 
--
Erland Sommarskog, Stockholm, esquel@sommarskog.se
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