Saturday, September 03, 2011

rec.games.trivia - 16 new messages in 6 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* Calvin's Quiz #161 - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trivia/t/b035fcfacb7e636d?hl=en
* Karachi city's in any Ur problem solf call +923333195473 - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trivia/t/339d11b5351a9e21?hl=en
* Rotating Quiz #29 - 4 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trivia/t/c9b8eda7d534eaf7?hl=en
* QFTCI11 Game 6 Rounds 4,6: science lab, TV spouses - 6 messages, 6 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trivia/t/16ad0ba2c12e2005?hl=en
* Rare Entries Contest MSB72: reminder - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trivia/t/e1c0881c0d67dba9?hl=en
* Calvin's Quiz #160 - ANSWERS & SCORES - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trivia/t/4e3148209fb5e9de?hl=en

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TOPIC: Calvin's Quiz #161
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trivia/t/b035fcfacb7e636d?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 2 2011 1:17 am
From: "David"


> 1 Which sea lies between Korea and China?

East China Sea

> 2 Who portrayed Jim Morrison in the 1991 film 'The Doors'?

Val Kilmer

> 5 Off the coast of which US state did the Exxon Valdez run aground in
> 1989?

Alaska

> 6 Which hurricane has existed on Jupiter since at least 1664?

The Red Spot

> 9 Which Knight of the Round Table found the Holy Grail?

Galahad

> 10 Which company produces the X-Box?

Micro$oft

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 2 2011 5:28 am
From: "Peter Smyth"


"Calvin" wrote in message
news:op.v03nzzmlyr33d7@04233-jyhzp1s.staff.ad.bond.edu.au...
>
>
>
>1 Which sea lies between Korea and China?
Yellow Sea
>2 Who portrayed Jim Morrison in the 1991 film 'The Doors'?
>3 Which West Indian recorded the highest individual score in Test cricket
>of 400 in 2003?
BC Lara
>4 Which country is currently hosting the world athletics championships?
Korea
>5 Off the coast of which US state did the Exxon Valdez run aground in 1989?
Alaska
>6 Which hurricane has existed on Jupiter since at least 1664?
Great Red Spot
>7 Which former Eagle had a 1985 hit with 'The Heat Is On'?
Don Henley
>8 Who played George Cowley in 'The Professionals'?
>9 Which Knight of the Round Table found the Holy Grail?
Galahad (and others depending on which version you read)
>10 Which company produces the X-Box?
Microsoft

Peter Smyth

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 2 2011 9:59 pm
From: Jeffrey Turner


On 8/31/2011 6:41 PM, Calvin wrote:
>
>
> 1 Which sea lies between Korea and China?
Sea of Japan
> 2 Who portrayed Jim Morrison in the 1991 film 'The Doors'?
> 3 Which West Indian recorded the highest individual score in Test
> cricket of 400 in 2003?
> 4 Which country is currently hosting the world athletics championships?
> 5 Off the coast of which US state did the Exxon Valdez run aground in 1989?
Alaska
> 6 Which hurricane has existed on Jupiter since at least 1664?
Great Red Spot
> 7 Which former Eagle had a 1985 hit with 'The Heat Is On'?
> 8 Who played George Cowley in 'The Professionals'?
> 9 Which Knight of the Round Table found the Holy Grail?
> 10 Which company produces the X-Box?
Nintendo

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TOPIC: Karachi city's in any Ur problem solf call +923333195473
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trivia/t/339d11b5351a9e21?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 2 2011 4:03 am
From: ";;"


Karachi city's in any Ur problem solf call +923333195473
http://karachi-guest-house-5star-hotels.blogspot.com/

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TOPIC: Rotating Quiz #29
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trivia/t/c9b8eda7d534eaf7?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 2 2011 5:06 am
From: "Peter Smyth"


"Rob Parker" wrote in message
news:4e5ebfea$0$13393$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>
>This time around, we'll be looking at sport and music. Answers and results
>will be posted in 5 days time.
>
>1. In 2011, Petra Kvitova became the first left-handed woman to win the
>Wimbledon Ladies Singles since who?
Martina Navratilova
>2. In what year was that previous left-hander's win?
1993
>3. Who was the original keyboard player in British progressive rock band
>"Yes"?
Tony Kaye
>4. In which Australian city/town is the museum set up in honour of Don
>Bradman?
Adelaide
>5. With which musical instrument is the performer Lang Lang associated?
Piano
>6. With which sport is Australian Will Power associated?
Surfing
>7. Where is the Cafe del Mar, famous for its series of "chill-out" music
>CDs?
>
>8. To the nearest hour, what is the record fastest time for the
>Sydney-Hobart yacht race?
24
>9. What was the first LP by "The Beatles"?
Please Please Me
>10. In what year was <answer to Q9> released?
1963

Peter Smyth

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 2 2011 2:44 pm
From: Erland Sommarskog


Rob Parker (NOSPAMrobpparker@optusnet.com.au.FORME) writes:
> Who was Peter Banks - not to be confused with Tony Banks, the keyboard
> player from Genesis (and given as an answer by someone to this question).

For some reason I had a recollection of another name. At least then
Banks does not deserve the giggle I had when I saw that answer.

But here's another question: who is the *current* keyboard player
in Yes?


== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 2 2011 2:54 pm
From: John Masters


On 2011-09-02 21:44:04 +0000, Erland Sommarskog said:

> Rob Parker (NOSPAMrobpparker@optusnet.com.au.FORME) writes:
>> Who was Peter Banks - not to be confused with Tony Banks, the keyboard
>> player from Genesis (and given as an answer by someone to this question).
>
> For some reason I had a recollection of another name. At least then
> Banks does not deserve the giggle I had when I saw that answer.
>
> But here's another question: who is the *current* keyboard player
> in Yes?

Are Yes still going? I saw them at the Royal Albert Hall back in 19??
and it was Rick Wakeman on keyboards. That was at Cream's last gig and
Taste were also on the bill.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 2 2011 4:08 pm
From: "Rob Parker"

"Erland Sommarskog" <esquel@sommarskog.se> wrote in message
news:Xns9F54F1709A3A7Yazorman@127.0.0.1...
> But here's another question: who is the *current* keyboard player
> in Yes?

I think they're back to Rick Wakeman, who was part of the "classic" line-up.
Later replaced by Patrick Moraz, and sometimes by Trevor Horne (who was
usually involved in their record production). And I think there was someone
else at one stage.

Rob


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TOPIC: QFTCI11 Game 6 Rounds 4,6: science lab, TV spouses
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trivia/t/16ad0ba2c12e2005?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 2 2011 5:24 am
From: "Peter Smyth"


"Mark Brader" wrote in message
news:_vWdnSUTS7U4J8LTnZ2dnUVZ_uGdnZ2d@vex.net...

>* Game 6, Round 4 - Lab Equipment
>
>1. On pages 2, 3, and 4... which picture is an Erlenmeyer flask?
9, 14
>2. Pages 3 and 4... which picture is a Bunsen burner?
21
>3. On pages 1 and 2... which one is a Petri ("PEE-tree") dish?
2
>4. On pages 3 and 4... a test tube?
34
>5. Pages 2 and 3... a beaker?
16
>6. Pages 1 and 3... a hose barb?
5
>7. Pages 2 and 4... a pipette?
31, 33
>8. Pages 2 and 4... a burette?
31, 33
>9. Pages 1, 2, and 4... a Crookes radiometer?
28
>10. Pages 1, 3, and 4... an electroscope?
6

>After completing the round, please decide this rot13: On question
>6, if you answered 18, 21, 26, or 27, go back and describe the
>specific relevant part of the device.

Eh? I'm not sure what you want here, either 21 is a picture of a Bunsen
burner, or it isn't.

Peter Smyth

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 2 2011 11:58 am
From: msb@vex.net (Mark Brader)


Mark Brader:
>> After completing the round, please decide this rot13: On question
>> 6, if you answered 18, 21, 26, or 27, go back and describe the
>> specific relevant part of the device.

Peter Smyth:
> Eh? I'm not sure what you want here, either 21 is a picture of a Bunsen
> burner, or it isn't.

What I want is for you to not misread "question 6" as "question 2".

(Grin)
--
Mark Brader | Our censorship system has one inexplicable anomaly.
Toronto | One of the rating codes is M for "mature", but there
msb@vex.net | isn't any corresponding "I" code... --Peter Moylan


== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 2 2011 1:20 pm
From: tool@panix.com (Dan Blum)


Mark Brader <msb@vex.net> wrote:

> * Game 6, Round 4 - Lab Equipment

> 1. On pages 2, 3, and 4... which picture is an Erlenmeyer flask?

20

> 2. Pages 3 and 4... which picture is a Bunsen burner?

18; 21

> 3. On pages 1 and 2... which one is a Petri ("PEE-tree") dish?

2

> 4. On pages 3 and 4... a test tube?

34

> 5. Pages 2 and 3... a beaker?

16

> 6. Pages 1 and 3... a hose barb?

5

> 7. Pages 2 and 4... a pipette?

33; 31

> 8. Pages 2 and 4... a burette?

31; 33

> 9. Pages 1, 2, and 4... a Crookes radiometer?

28

> 10. Pages 1, 3, and 4... an electroscope?

6


> * Game 6, Round 6 - TV Spouses

> 1. "The Cosby Show" (1984-92)

Rashad Allen

> 2. "Everybody Loves Raymond" (1996-2005)

Patricia Heaton

> 3. "Roseanne" (1988-97)

John Goodman

> 4. "The Dick Van Dyke Show" (1961-66)

Mary Tyler Moore

> 9. "The Bob Newhart Show" (1972-78)

Worley

> 10. "Newhart" (1982-90)

Worley

--
_______________________________________________________________________
Dan Blum tool@panix.com
"I wouldn't have believed it myself if I hadn't just made it up."


== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 2 2011 4:59 pm
From: swp


On Thursday, September 1, 2011 1:02:29 PM UTC-4, Mark Brader wrote:
> * Game 6, Round 4 - Lab Equipment
>
> 1. On pages 2, 3, and 4... which picture is an Erlenmeyer flask?

20

> 2. Pages 3 and 4... which picture is a Bunsen burner?

18

> 3. On pages 1 and 2... which one is a Petri ("PEE-tree") dish?

2

> 4. On pages 3 and 4... a test tube?

34

> 5. Pages 2 and 3... a beaker?

16

> 6. Pages 1 and 3... a hose barb?

5

> 7. Pages 2 and 4... a pipette?

33 ; 31

> 8. Pages 2 and 4... a burette?

31 ; 33

> 9. Pages 1, 2, and 4... a Crookes radiometer?

15

> 10. Pages 1, 3, and 4... an electroscope?

17

> * Game 6, Round 6 - TV Spouses
>
> 1. "The Cosby Show" (1984-92)

phylicia rashād

> 2. "Everybody Loves Raymond" (1996-2005)

patricia heaton

> 3. "Roseanne" (1988-97)

john goodman

> 4. "The Dick Van Dyke Show" (1961-66)

mary tyler moore

> 5. "The King of Queens" (1998-2007)

leah remini

> 6. "The Good Wife" (2009 to date)

chris noth

> 7. "Father Knows Best" (1954-60)

jane wyatt

> 8. "Make Room for Daddy", also titled "The Danny Thomas Show"
> (1953-65). Note: In 1956-57 the title Daddy, played by
> Danny Thomas, was a widower, then he remarried; so name the
> actress playing *either* his first or his second wife.

angela cartwright?

> 9. "The Bob Newhart Show" (1972-78)

suzanne pleshette

> 10. "Newhart" (1982-90)

mary frann

swp


== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 2 2011 6:28 pm
From: Calvin <334152@gmail.com>


On Sep 2, 3:02 am, m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote:

> * Game 6, Round 4 - Lab Equipment
>
> To make the logistics easier on this round, on each question we'll
> name two or three specific pages of the handout
>
>  http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/0604/lab/p1.jpg
>  http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/0604/lab/p2.jpg
>  http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/0604/lab/p3.jpg
>  http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/0604/lab/p4.jpg
>
> and those are the only ones you'll have to look at.
>
> Most of the equipment shown is modern, but some items are the
> sort of thing you'd be more likely to see used for lectures or
> demonstrations than in an actual research lab, and a few are
> outright antiques.
>
> 1. On pages 2, 3, and 4... which picture is an Erlenmeyer flask?

14, 17

> 2. Pages 3 and 4... which picture is a Bunsen burner?

21, 18

> 3. On pages 1 and 2... which one is a Petri ("PEE-tree") dish?

2

> 4. On pages 3 and 4... a test tube?

34

> 5. Pages 2 and 3... a beaker?

16, 20

> 6. Pages 1 and 3... a hose barb?

5, 27 (prings inside the circular piece at top)

> 7. Pages 2 and 4... a pipette?

33, 31

> 8. Pages 2 and 4... a burette?

31, 33

> 9. Pages 1, 2, and 4... a Crookes radiometer?

28

> 10. Pages 1, 3, and 4... an electroscope?

3, 30


> * Game 6, Round 6 - TV Spouses
>
> We'll name ten American TV shows whose titles each refer to one
> person -- either the lead character or the actor or actress playing
> the lead character.  But, in each case, that character was married.
> So your task, of course, is to name the *actor or actress* playing
> the *spouse* of the lead character.
>
> 1. "The Cosby Show" (1984-92)
> 2. "Everybody Loves Raymond" (1996-2005)
> 3. "Roseanne" (1988-97)

John Goodman

> 4. "The Dick Van Dyke Show" (1961-66)
> 5. "The King of Queens" (1998-2007)
> 6. "The Good Wife" (2009 to date)
> 7. "Father Knows Best" (1954-60)
>
> 8. "Make Room for Daddy", also titled "The Danny Thomas Show"
>    (1953-65).  Note: In 1956-57 the title Daddy, played by
>    Danny Thomas, was a widower, then he remarried; so name the
>    actress playing *either* his first or his second wife.
>
> 9. "The Bob Newhart Show" (1972-78)
> 10. "Newhart" (1982-90)

cheers,
calvin

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 2 2011 9:58 pm
From: Jeffrey Turner


On 9/1/2011 1:02 PM, Mark Brader wrote:
>
>
> * Game 6, Round 4 - Lab Equipment
>
> To make the logistics easier on this round, on each question we'll
> name two or three specific pages of the handout
>
> http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/0604/lab/p1.jpg
> http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/0604/lab/p2.jpg
> http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/0604/lab/p3.jpg
> http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/0604/lab/p4.jpg
>
> and those are the only ones you'll have to look at.
>
> Most of the equipment shown is modern, but some items are the
> sort of thing you'd be more likely to see used for lectures or
> demonstrations than in an actual research lab, and a few are
> outright antiques.
>
> 1. On pages 2, 3, and 4... which picture is an Erlenmeyer flask?

20

> 2. Pages 3 and 4... which picture is a Bunsen burner?

21

> 3. On pages 1 and 2... which one is a Petri ("PEE-tree") dish?

2

> 4. On pages 3 and 4... a test tube?

34

> 5. Pages 2 and 3... a beaker?

16

> 6. Pages 1 and 3... a hose barb?

5

> 7. Pages 2 and 4... a pipette?

31

> 8. Pages 2 and 4... a burette?

33

> 9. Pages 1, 2, and 4... a Crookes radiometer?

15

> 10. Pages 1, 3, and 4... an electroscope?

28

abcdefghijklm
nopqrstuvwxyz
> After completing the round, please decide this rot13: Ba dhrfgvba
On question
> 6, vs lbh nafjrerq 18, 21, 26, be 27, tb onpx naq qrfpevor gur
6, if you answered 18, 21, 26 or 27,
> fcrpvsvp eryrinag cneg bs gur qrivpr.
>
> After you have finished the round, decode the following rot13 if
> you'd like to see the remaining items named in alphabetical order.
> Identify them if you like for fun, but for no points.
>
> 11. Netnaq oheare.
> 12. Oryy wne.
> 13. (Obzo) pnybevzrgre.
> 14. (Fgevat) ryrpgebzrgre.
> 15. (Pncvyynel) tnyinabfpbcr.
> 16. Trvtre pbhagre.
> 17. Tenqhngrq plyvaqre.
> 18. Xrpx pyvc.
> 19. Zrxre oheare.
> 20. Zvpebfpbcr.
> 21. Cevfz.
> 22. Erntrag obggyr.
> 23. Evat oheare.
> 24. Ebhaq-obggbz synfx.
> 25. Fperj-pbzcerffbe pynzc.
> 26. 6-arpx ebhaq-obggbz synfx.
> 27. Fceratry clpabzrgre.
> 28. Grpyh oheare.
> 29. 3-arpx ebhaq-obggbz synfx.
> 30. Ghovat.
> 31. Ibygzrgre.
> 32. Ibyhzrgevp synfx.
> 33. Jngpu tynff.
> 34. K-enl ghor.
>
>
> * Game 6, Round 6 - TV Spouses
>
> We'll name ten American TV shows whose titles each refer to one
> person -- either the lead character or the actor or actress playing
> the lead character. But, in each case, that character was married.
> So your task, of course, is to name the *actor or actress* playing
> the *spouse* of the lead character.
>
> 1. "The Cosby Show" (1984-92)

Phylicia Rashad

> 2. "Everybody Loves Raymond" (1996-2005)
> 3. "Roseanne" (1988-97)

Goodman

> 4. "The Dick Van Dyke Show" (1961-66)

Mary Tyler Moore

> 5. "The King of Queens" (1998-2007)
> 6. "The Good Wife" (2009 to date)
> 7. "Father Knows Best" (1954-60)

> 8. "Make Room for Daddy", also titled "The Danny Thomas Show"
> (1953-65). Note: In 1956-57 the title Daddy, played by
> Danny Thomas, was a widower, then he remarried; so name the
> actress playing *either* his first or his second wife.
>
> 9. "The Bob Newhart Show" (1972-78)

Suzanne Pleshette

> 10. "Newhart" (1982-90)

--Jeff

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TOPIC: Rare Entries Contest MSB72: reminder
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trivia/t/e1c0881c0d67dba9?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 2 2011 7:25 am
From: msb@vex.net (Mark Brader)


This is a reminder of the current Rare Entries contest. If the
level of participation is not satisfactory, it will be the last in
the MSB series. Please consider entering even if you don't think
you have good answers for all the questions.

As always, reply ONLY BY EMAIL to msb@vex.net; do not post to
any newsgroup. Entries must reach here by Saturday, September
17, 2011 (by Toronto time, zone -4). I intend to post two more
reminders before then (that's one more than I originally said, but
I accidentally made the contest period longer than I intended to).
Everything below this point is the same as in the original contest
announcement. See below the questions for a detailed explanation,
which is unchanged from last time.

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0. Name something or someone that Google has commemorated
with a "Google Doodle" or "Google Holiday Logo" in 2011.
(See rule 4.4.)

1. Name a moon (natural satellite) of Mars.

2. Name a language whose English name obviously refers to
a specific country now existing, and which is the primary
language used in a different country. *NOTE*: For this and
the following question, the usual rule 4.1.1 does *not* apply,
so that "country" is not limited to independent countries
but may be used with any sensible meaning. (However, the
two countries must not share any part of their territory.)

3. Give a name (formal or informal, but not a nickname or
abbreviation) that is regularly used in English to identify
a present-day country whose largest city (metropolitan area)
is London. Again, rule 4.1.1 does not apply.

For example, if I had said "New York" instead of "London",
correct answers would include "United States" and "America",
but not "Stateside" or "USA".

4. Name a word that is a preposition and is 2 letters long.
Both letters must occur in the English alphabet.

5. Name a unit of pressure. You must be able, if asked, to cite
3 unrelated web pages where this unit of pressure is actually
used (rather than defined -- for example, they might be giving
a measurement, estimate, specification, or forecast).

6. Name a person who was President of the US and made at least
some attempt to run for an additional term of office that
would not have been allowed if the 22nd Amendment had been
part of the Constitution from the outset. In effect this
means he was president for 6 years or more and made at least
some attempt to run for an additional 4-year term.

7. Name a country existing in 1926, that in 1906 either did not
exist or was smaller in area (not counting dependencies).
That is, between those two years it was either created,
re-created, or enlarged. This time rule 4.1.1 *does* apply,
both in regard to what is a country and to whether two
countries existing at different times are the same country.

8. Name a medium in which a version of "The Hitchhiker's Guide
to the Galaxy" (written originally by Douglas Adams) has been
produced and commercially distributed.

9. In some sports completing a specific task scores, all at once,
a certain number of points that is given specifically in the
rules of the sport. Give such a number that occurs in the
scoring of some sport. *NOTE*: You must also name the sport,
but it will *not* be taken as part of the answer.

For example, if darts was considered a sport, then you might
answer "25 (darts)", in reference to the score for hitting
the outer ring of the bullseye; but this would be counted
equivalently to a correct answer of 25 in conjunction with
any other sport. But even if duplicate bridge was considered
a sport, the 22 matchpoints that you might score (in North
American scoring) by beating the pairs at 22 other tables
would still not make "22 (duplicate bridge)" a correct answer,
because the 22 is merely a count of pairs beaten, and not a
number specified in the rules.

For purposes of this question "sport" does not include
competitions based only on mental skill and/or dexterity with
the hands and arms, such as card games, pool games, or darts.

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* 1. The Game

As usual, for each of the questions above, your objective is to give
an answer that (1) is correct, and (2) will be duplicated by as FEW
other people as possible. Feel free to use any reference material
you like to RESEARCH your answers; but when you have found enough
possible answers for your liking, you are expected to choose on your
own which one to submit, WITHOUT mechanical or computer assistance:
this is meant to be a game of wits.


* 2. Scoring

The scores on the different questions are MULTIPLIED to produce a
final score for each entrant. Low score wins; a perfect score is 1.

If your answer on a category is correct, then your score is the number
of people who gave that answer, or an answer I consider equivalent.

A wrong answer, or a skipped question, gets a high score as a penalty.
This is the median of:
- the number of entrants
- the square root of that number, rounded up to an integer
- double the highest score that anyone would have on this
question if all answers were deemed correct

* 2.1 Scoring Example

Say I ask for a color on the current Canadian flag. There are
26 entrants -- 20 say "red", 4 say "blue", and 1 each say "gules",
"white", and "blue square". After looking up gules I decide it's
the same color as red and should be treated as a duplicate answer;
then the 21 people who said either "red" or "gules" get 21 points
each. The person who said "white" gets a perfect score of 1 point.

"Blue square" is not a color and blue is not a color on the flag;
the 5 people who gave either of these answers each get the same
penalty score, which is the median of:
- number of entrants = 27
- sqrt(27) = 5.196+, rounded up = 6
- double the highest score = 21 x 2 = 42
or in this case, 27.

* 2.2 More Specific Variants

On some questions it's possible that one entrant will give an answer
that's a more specific variant of an answer given by someone else.
In that case the more specific variant will usually be scored as if
the two answers are different, but the other, less specific variant
will be scored as if they are the same.

In the above example, if I had decided (wrongly) to score gules as
a more specific variant of red, then "red" would still score 21,
but "gules" would now score 1.

If a wrong answer is clearly associated with a specific right
answer, I will score the right answer as if the wrong answer was a
more specific variant of it. In the above example, if there were
3 additional entrants who said "white square", then "white square"
would be scored as wrong, but the score for "white" would be 4, not 1.

"More specific" scoring will NOT apply if the question asks for an
answer "in general terms"; a more specific answer will then at best be
treated the same as the more general one, and may be considered wrong.


* 3. Entries

Entries must be emailed to the address given above. Please do not
quote the questions back to me, and do send only plain text in ASCII
or ISO 8859-1: no HTML, attachments, Micros--t character sets, etc.,
and no Unicode, please. (Entrants who fail to comply will be publicly
chastised in the results posting.)

Your message should preferably consist of just your 10 answers,
numbered from 0 to 9, along with any explanations required. Your
name should be in it somewhere -- a From: line or signature is fine.
(If I don't see both a first and a last name, or an explicit request
for a particular form of your name to be used, then your email address
will be posted in the results).

You can expect an acknowledgement when I read your entry. If this
bounces, it won't be sent again.

* 3.1 Where Leeway is Allowed

In general there is no penalty for errors of spelling, capitalization,
English usage, or other such matters of form, nor for accidentally
sending email in an unfinished state, so long as it's clear enough
what you intended. Sometimes a specific question may imply stricter
rules, though. And if you give an answer that properly refers to a
different thing related to the one you intended, I will normally take
it as written.

Once you intentionally submit an answer, no changes will be allowed,
unless I decide there was a problem with the question. Similarly,
alternate answers within an entry will not be accepted. Only the
first answer that you intentionally submit counts.

* 3.2 Clarifications

Questions are not intended to be hard to understand, but I may fail
in this intent. (For one thing, in many cases clarity could only be
provided by an example which would suggest one or another specific
answer, and I mustn't do that.)

In order to be fair to all entrants, I must insist that requests for
clarification must be emailed to me, NOT POSTED in any newsgroup.
But if you do ask for clarification, I'll probably say that the
question is clear enough as posted. If I do decide to clarify or
change a question, all entrants will be informed.

* 3.3 Supporting Information

It is your option whether or not to provide supporting information
to justify your answers. If you don't, I'll email you to ask for
it if I need to. If you supply it in the form of a URL, if at all
possible it should be a "deep link" to the specific relevant page.
There is no need to supply URLs for obvious, well-known reference
web sites, and there is no point in supplying URLs for pages that
don't actually support your answer.

If you provide any explanatory remarks along with your answers, you
are responsible for making it sufficiently clear that they are not
part of the answers. The particular format doesn't matter as long
as you're clear. In the scoring example above, "white square" was
wrong; "white (in the central square)" would have been taken as a
correct answer with an explanation.


* 4. Interpretation of questions

These are general rules that apply unless a question specifically
states otherwise.

* 4.1 Geography
* 4.1.1 Countries

"Country" means an independent country. Whether or not a place is
considered an independent country is determined by how it is listed
in reference sources.

For purposes of these contests, the Earth is considered to be divid-
ed into disjoint areas each of which is either (1) a country, (2) a
dependency, or (3) without national government. Their boundaries
are interpreted on a de facto basis. Any place with representatives
in a country's legislature is considered a part of that country rather
than a dependency of it.

The European Union is considered as an association of countries, not
a country itself.

Claims that are not enforced, or not generally recognized, don't count.
Places currently fighting a war of secession don't count. Embassies
don't count as special; they may have extraterritorial rights, but
they're still part of the host country (and city).

Countries existing at different historical times are normally
considered the same country if they have the same capital city.

* 4.1.2 States or provinces

Many countries or dependencies are divided into subsidiary political
entities, typically with their own subsidiary governments. At the
first level of division, these entities are most commonly called
states or provinces, but various other names are used; sometimes
varying even within the same country (e.g. to indicate unequal
political status).

Any reference to "states or provinces" in a question refers to
these entities at the first level of division, no matter what they
are called.

* 4.1.3 Distances

Distances between places on the Earth are measured along a great
circle path, and distance involving cities are based on the city
center (downtown).

* 4.2 Entertainment

A "movie" does not include any form of TV broadcast or video release;
it must have been shown in cinemas. "Oscar" and "Academy Award" are
AMPAS trademarks and refer to the awards given by that organization.
"Fiction" includes dramatizations of true stories.

* 4.3 Words and Numbers
* 4.3.1 Different Answers

Some questions specifically ask for a *word*, rather than the thing
that it names; this means that different words with the same meaning
will in general be treated as distinct answers. However, if two or
more inflectional variants, spelling variants, or other closely
related forms are correct answers, they will be treated as equivalent.

Similarly, if the question specifically asks for a name, different
things referred to by the same name will be treated as the same.

* 4.3.2 Permitted Words

The word that you give must be listed (or implied by a listing,
as with inflected forms) in a suitable dictionary. Generally
this means a printed dictionary published recently enough
to show reasonably current usage, or its online equivalent.
Other reasonably authoritative sources may be accepted on a
case-by-case basis. Words listed as obsolete or archaic usage
don't count, and sources that would list those words without
distinguishing them are not acceptable as dictionaries.

* 4.3.3 Permitted Numbers

Where the distinction is important, "number" refers to a specific
mathematical value, whereas "numeral" means a way of writing it.
Thus "4", "IV", and "four" are three different numerals representing
the same number. "Digit" means one of the characters "0", "1", "2",
etc. (These definitions represent one of several conflicting common
usages.)

* 4.3.4 "Contained in"

If a question asks for a word or numeral "contained" or "included"
in a phrase, title, or the like, this does not include substrings or
alternate meanings of words, unless explictly specified. For example,
if "Canada in 1967" is the title of a book, it contains the numeral
1967 and the preposition "in"; but it does not contain the word "an",
the adjective "in", or the numeral 96.

* 4.4 Tense and Time

When a question is worded in the present tense, the correctness of
your answer is determined by the facts at the moment you submit it.
(In a case where, in my judgement, people might reasonably be unaware
of the facts having changed, an out-of-date answer may be accepted as
correct.) Questions worded in the present perfect tense include the
present unless something states or implies otherwise. (For example,
Canada is a country that "has existed", as well as one that "exists".)
Different verbs in a sentence bear their usual tense relationship to
each other.

You are not allowed to change the facts yourself in order to make an
answer correct. For example, if a question asks for material on the
WWW, what you cite must already have existed before the contest was
first posted.


* 5. Judging

As moderator, I will be the sole judge of what answers are correct,
and whether two answers with similar meaning (like red and gules)
are considered the same, different, or more/less specific variants.

I will do my best to be fair on all such issues, but sometimes it is
necessary to be arbitrary. Those who disagree with my rulings are
welcome to complain (or to start a competing contest, or whatever).

I may rescore the contest if I agree that I made a serious error and
it affects the high finishers.


* 6. Results

Results will normally be posted within a few days of the contest
closing. They may be delayed if I'm unexpectedly busy or for
technical reasons. If I feel I need help evaluating one or more
answers, I may make a consultative posting in the newsgroups before
scoring the contest.

In the results posting, all entrants will be listed in order of score,
but high (bad) scores may be omitted. The top few entrants' full
answer slates will be posted. A table of answers and their scores
will be given for each question.


* 7. Fun

This contest is for fun. Please do have fun, and good luck to all.
--
Mark Brader | "If you're incompetent, you can't know you're incompetent...
Toronto | the skills you need to produce a right answer are exactly
msb@vex.net | the skills you need to recognize what a right answer is."
--David Dunning
My text in this article is in the public domain.

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TOPIC: Calvin's Quiz #160 - ANSWERS & SCORES
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trivia/t/4e3148209fb5e9de?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 2 2011 6:32 pm
From: Calvin <334152@gmail.com>


On Sep 2, 11:39 am, Stan Brown <the_stan_br...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 12:06:21 +1000, Rob Parker wrote:
> > "Stan Brown" <the_stan_br...@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
> >news:MPG.28c8a37852a5c8bd98d0e6@news.individual.net...
> > > On Thu, 01 Sep 2011 08:38:59 +1000, Calvin wrote:
>
> > >> On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 14:25:40 +1000, Calvin <cal...@phlegm.com> wrote:
>
> > >> > 1 Who is Barry Humphries' male alter ego?
>
> > >> Sir Les Patterson
> > >> 4/12
>
> > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Humphriescites two alter egos,
> > > Dame Edna before Patterson.
>
> > > I think I deserve to have my answer marked correct.
> > But Dame Edna is (one of) his FEMALE alter egos.
>
> My apologies to Calvin.  I completely missed the crucial word "male"
> in the original question, so I agree that my answer was quite wrong.

No problem. I read "Moon" as "Mars" in Mark's last quiz.

> Rob, I imagine it hurts standing on your head. I've turned you right
> side up before following up.

Top posters should be shot :-)

cheers,
calvin

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