Monday, April 26, 2021

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msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Apr 25 11:24PM -0500

These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 1998-02-16,
and should be interpreted accordingly. All questions were written
by members of the Usual Suspects, but have been reformatted and
may have been retyped and/or edited by me. I will reveal the
correct answers in about 3 days.
 
For further information, including an explanation of the """
notation that may appear in these rounds, see my 2020-06-23
companion posting on "Reposted Questions from the Canadian
the Canadian Inquisition (RQFTCI*)".
 
 
I did not write either of these rounds.
 
* Game 4, Round 7 - Miscellaneous - Hats
 
The questions in this round concern the lost art of millinery.
I have reconstructed the handout, deleted the two decoys that
it originally included in 1998 (as I don't know what they were),
and arranged the round in order of the new images. Please see:
 
http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/oo4/7/hat.jpg
 
1. This hat's name comes from the French word for an object that
closely resembles it. What is it called?
 
2. The stiff felt hat in this picture was popularized by the future
King Edward VII when he was still Prince of Wales. Its name
comes from the town in Germany where it was first made.
What is it?
 
3. Speaking of royalty, the gray top hats worn by the male royals
in this photo are de rigueur for a particular sporting event
held in June of each year. The key word in the event's name
is the same as the hat's name. What is it?
 
4. What is the function in the millinery trade of this device?
 
5. And this one? Be specific.
 
6. This hat, characterized by its deeply dented crown, originated
in the 1870s. However, it didn't receive its current name
until later, from the title of an 1894 novel and the 1895
play adaptation (respectively by George du Maurier and
Paul M. Potter). The same novel also originated the eponym
"Svengali". Name the hat.
 
7. These hats are from an 1889 catalog. They are all one kind
of hat. What kind?
 
8. What style of straw hat is being worn by the vast majority of
the men in this photograph?
 
9. Although her husband left his hat off far too often for American
milliners, Jackie Kennedy's trademark was the brimless, circular
hat shown here. Name it.
 
10. This hat is characterized by its round, flat crown. Charles
Mingus once said goodbye to one, though he was really referring
to another musician. We won't eat our hats if you know this!
Name the hat.
 
 
* Game 4, Round 8 - Literature - The Good (the Bad and the Ugly) Book
 
The following biblical passages cover the range of Good, Bad, and
Ugly. In each case, name of the book of the Bible that each passage
comes from. Passages are adapted from the King James Version.
Just give the *short-form name of the book*, ignoring any numbered
parts (thus "Samuel", not "1 Samuel"), let alone chapter and verse.
 
All answers will be drawn from the incomplete list of books on
the handout below, and no answer will be repeated.
 
OLD TESTAMENT:
Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, Joshua,
Judges, Ruth, Samuel, Kings, Ezra, Nehemiah, Esther, Job,
Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Solomon, Isaiah,
Jeremiah, Lamentations, Ezekiel, Daniel.
 
NEW TESTAMENT:
Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Acts, Romans, Corinthians,
Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians,
Thessalonians, Timothy, Titus, Philemon, Hebrews,
Revelation.
 
1. This curse ends the New Testament book describing apocalyptic
monsters and miracles. It shows you what some writers think
of their editors:
 
If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto
him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man
shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy,
God shall take away his part out of the book of life...
 
2. This is the opening episode of a historical book. The book's
main character is converted on the Road to Damascus:
 
And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly
there shined round him a light from heaven: And he fell to
the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him: "Saul, Saul,
why persecutest thou me?"
 
3. The opening verse of this book has helped define Christian
terminology and doctrine:
 
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God,
and the Word was God... All things were made by him; and
without him was not anything made that was made.
 
4. The opening of an Old Testament book concerned with slavery,
liberation, law, and nationhood:
 
Now there arose up a new king over Egypt, who knew not Joseph.
And he said unto his people, "Behold, the children of Israel
are more and mightier than we: Come, let us deal wisely
with them"... Therefore they did set over them taskmasters...
 
5. The stories of the early Hebrew patriarchs, including Judah and
his libido, are told in this Old Testament book:
 
And Judah said unto Onan, "Go in unto thy brother's wife,
and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother." And Onan
knew that the seed should not be his; and... when he went
in unto his brother's wife, he spilled it on the ground...
And the thing which he did displeased the Lord...
 
6. New Testament instructional and moral writings are contained in
a series of essays and letters, most of which are named after
their intended recipients. Name this one:
 
It is good for a man not to touch a woman. Nevertheless,
to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife,
and let every woman have her own husband... It is better
to marry than to burn.
 
7. This is the opening of one of the last Old Testament historical
books. St. Paul would not be amused:
 
Now King David was old and stricken in years; and they covered
him with clothes, but he got no heat. Wherefore his servants
said unto him, "Let there be sought for the King a young
virgin... and let her lie in thy bosom, that the King may
get heat."
 
8. This book, an example of Old Testament wisdom literature, is
attributed to Solomon after he had become old and somewhat
cynical:
 
To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose
under heaven. A time to be born, and a time to die; a time
to plant, and a time to pluck up... A time to kill, and a
time to heal...
 
9. The writer of this Old Testament prediction envisioned a peaceful
future. This verse has had a little influence on the Christian
religion and on G.F. Handel's librettist:
 
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the
government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be
called Wonderful, Counselor, the mighty God, the everlasting
Father, the Prince of Peace.
 
10. This cautionary story comes from the Old Testament historical
book telling of the wars and troubles that led the Israelites
to ask their prophet to choose a king. (The Philistines were
their longstanding oppressors.)
 
And the Philistines took the ark of God, and brought it...
unto Gath... And the hand of the Lord was against the city
with a very great destruction: and He smote the men of the
city, both small and great, and they had hemorrhoids in
their secret parts.
 
(Of course, with divine help like that, who needs a king?)
 
--
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Toronto | a flashlight in the dark. What they can see, they
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| -- M. Valvo
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tool@panix.com (Dan Blum): Apr 26 04:37AM


> * Game 4, Round 7 - Miscellaneous - Hats
 
> 1. This hat's name comes from the French word for an object that
> closely resembles it. What is it called?
 
cloche
 
> King Edward VII when he was still Prince of Wales. Its name
> comes from the town in Germany where it was first made.
> What is it?
 
homburg
 
> in this photo are de rigueur for a particular sporting event
> held in June of each year. The key word in the event's name
> is the same as the hat's name. What is it?
 
ascot
 
> 4. What is the function in the millinery trade of this device?
 
putting a hatband on a hat
 
> 5. And this one? Be specific.
 
creating a form of a particular size
 
> play adaptation (respectively by George du Maurier and
> Paul M. Potter). The same novel also originated the eponym
> "Svengali". Name the hat.
 
trilby
 
> 7. These hats are from an 1889 catalog. They are all one kind
> of hat. What kind?
 
baseball caps
 
> 8. What style of straw hat is being worn by the vast majority of
> the men in this photograph?
 
boater
 
> Mingus once said goodbye to one, though he was really referring
> to another musician. We won't eat our hats if you know this!
> Name the hat.
 
porkpie
 
> him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man
> shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy,
> God shall take away his part out of the book of life...
 
Revelation
 
> there shined round him a light from heaven: And he fell to
> the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him: "Saul, Saul,
> why persecutest thou me?"
 
Acts
 
 
> In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God,
> and the Word was God... All things were made by him; and
> without him was not anything made that was made.
 
Genesis
 
> And he said unto his people, "Behold, the children of Israel
> are more and mightier than we: Come, let us deal wisely
> with them"... Therefore they did set over them taskmasters...
 
Exodus
 
> knew that the seed should not be his; and... when he went
> in unto his brother's wife, he spilled it on the ground...
> And the thing which he did displeased the Lord...
 
Leviticus
 
> to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife,
> and let every woman have her own husband... It is better
> to marry than to burn.
 
Corinthians; Ephesians
 
> said unto him, "Let there be sought for the King a young
> virgin... and let her lie in thy bosom, that the King may
> get heat."
 
Kings
 
> under heaven. A time to be born, and a time to die; a time
> to plant, and a time to pluck up... A time to kill, and a
> time to heal...
 
Ecclesiastes
 
> government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be
> called Wonderful, Counselor, the mighty God, the everlasting
> Father, the Prince of Peace.
 
Isaiah; Ezekiel
 
> city, both small and great, and they had hemorrhoids in
> their secret parts.
 
> (Of course, with divine help like that, who needs a king?)
 
Samuel
 
--
_______________________________________________________________________
Dan Blum tool@panix.com
"I wouldn't have believed it myself if I hadn't just made it up."
Joshua Kreitzer <gromit82@hotmail.com>: Apr 26 05:24AM

msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote in news:1aGdnck2gfbh3Rv9nZ2dnUU7-
 
> http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/oo4/7/hat.jpg
 
> 1. This hat's name comes from the French word for an object that
> closely resembles it. What is it called?
 
cloche
 
> King Edward VII when he was still Prince of Wales. Its name
> comes from the town in Germany where it was first made.
> What is it?
 
homburg
 
> in this photo are de rigueur for a particular sporting event
> held in June of each year. The key word in the event's name
> is the same as the hat's name. What is it?
 
derby

> play adaptation (respectively by George du Maurier and
> Paul M. Potter). The same novel also originated the eponym
> "Svengali". Name the hat.
 
trilby

> 8. What style of straw hat is being worn by the vast majority of
> the men in this photograph?
 
boater
 
> Mingus once said goodbye to one, though he was really referring
> to another musician. We won't eat our hats if you know this!
> Name the hat.
 
porkpie hat

> him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man
> shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy,
> God shall take away his part out of the book of life...
 
Revelation
 
> there shined round him a light from heaven: And he fell to
> the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him: "Saul, Saul,
> why persecutest thou me?"
 
Acts
 
 
> In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God,
> and the Word was God... All things were made by him; and
> without him was not anything made that was made.
 
John
 
> And he said unto his people, "Behold, the children of Israel
> are more and mightier than we: Come, let us deal wisely
> with them"... Therefore they did set over them taskmasters...
 
Exodus
 
> knew that the seed should not be his; and... when he went
> in unto his brother's wife, he spilled it on the ground...
> And the thing which he did displeased the Lord...
 
Genesis
 
> to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife,
> and let every woman have her own husband... It is better
> to marry than to burn.
 
Corinthians
 
> said unto him, "Let there be sought for the King a young
> virgin... and let her lie in thy bosom, that the King may
> get heat."
 
Kings
 
> under heaven. A time to be born, and a time to die; a time
> to plant, and a time to pluck up... A time to kill, and a
> time to heal...
 
Ecclesiastes

> government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be
> called Wonderful, Counselor, the mighty God, the everlasting
> Father, the Prince of Peace.
 
Isaiah

> city, both small and great, and they had hemorrhoids in
> their secret parts.
 
> (Of course, with divine help like that, who needs a king?)
 
Judges
 
--
Joshua (my name, not a guess) Kreitzer
gromit82@hotmail.com
Dan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com>: Apr 25 10:29PM -0700

On 4/25/21 9:24 PM, Mark Brader wrote:
> King Edward VII when he was still Prince of Wales. Its name
> comes from the town in Germany where it was first made.
> What is it?
 
Homburg
 
> in this photo are de rigueur for a particular sporting event
> held in June of each year. The key word in the event's name
> is the same as the hat's name. What is it?
 
Derby
 
 
> 4. What is the function in the millinery trade of this device?
 
shaping the brim
 
 
> 5. And this one? Be specific.
 
stretching the main body of the hat
 
> "Svengali". Name the hat.
 
> 7. These hats are from an 1889 catalog. They are all one kind
> of hat. What kind?
 
kepi
 
 
> 8. What style of straw hat is being worn by the vast majority of
> the men in this photograph?
 
Panama
 
 
> 9. Although her husband left his hat off far too often for American
> milliners, Jackie Kennedy's trademark was the brimless, circular
> hat shown here. Name it.
 
pillbox
 
> him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man
> shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy,
> God shall take away his part out of the book of life...
 
Revelation
 
> there shined round him a light from heaven: And he fell to
> the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him: "Saul, Saul,
> why persecutest thou me?"
 
Acts
 
 
> In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God,
> and the Word was God... All things were made by him; and
> without him was not anything made that was made.
 
John
 
> And he said unto his people, "Behold, the children of Israel
> are more and mightier than we: Come, let us deal wisely
> with them"... Therefore they did set over them taskmasters...
 
Exodus
 
> knew that the seed should not be his; and... when he went
> in unto his brother's wife, he spilled it on the ground...
> And the thing which he did displeased the Lord...
 
Judges
 
> to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife,
> and let every woman have her own husband... It is better
> to marry than to burn.
 
Galatians
 
> said unto him, "Let there be sought for the King a young
> virgin... and let her lie in thy bosom, that the King may
> get heat."
 
Kings
 
> under heaven. A time to be born, and a time to die; a time
> to plant, and a time to pluck up... A time to kill, and a
> time to heal...
 
Ecclesiastes
 
(also "Turn Turn Turn" by Pete Seegar)
 
> city, both small and great, and they had hemorrhoids in
> their secret parts.
 
> (Of course, with divine help like that, who needs a king?)
 
Samuel
 
--
Dan Tilque
msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Apr 25 11:22PM -0500

Mark Brader:
> see my 2020-06-23 companion posting on "Reposted Questions from
> the Canadian the Canadian Inquisition (RQFTCI*)".
 
 
> I wrote one of these rounds.
 
It was the entertainment round.
 
 
 
> 1. That Sam-I-Am,
> That Sam-I-Am,
> I do not like that Sam-I-Am.
 
"Green Eggs and Ham", by Dr. Seuss. 4 for everyone -- Dan Tilque,
Joshua, Dan Blum, and Pete.
 
> And a red balloon
> And a picture of
> The cow jumping over the moon.
 
"Goodnight Moon", by Margaret Wise Brown. 4 for Joshua, Dan Blum,
and Pete.
 
> Of the moon
> A little egg
> Lay on a leaf.
 
"The Very Hungry Caterpillar", by Eric Carle. 3 for Pete.
 
> This was no time for fun
> This was no time for games
> There was work to be done.
 
"The Cat in the Hat Comes Back" (not the first book), by Dr. Seuss.
 
> 5. Chug chug chug.
> Puff puff puff.
> Ding-dong ding-dong.
 
"The Little Engine that Could", by Watty Piper. 4 for Joshua
and Dan Blum. 3 for Pete.
 
> 6. Once upon a time there were four little rabbits.
 
"(The Tale of) Peter Rabbit", by Beatrix Potter. 4 for Joshua,
Dan Blum, and Pete.
 
> 7. Mr. and Mrs. Mallard were looking for a place to live. But every
> time Mr. Mallard saw what looked like a nice place, Mrs. Mallard
> said it was no good.
 
"Make Way for Ducklings", by Robert McCloskey. 4 for Dan Blum.
 
> His Mother called him "Wild Thing"
> And Max said "I'll eat you up!"
> So he was sent to bed without eating anything.
 
"Where the Wild Things Are", by Maurice Sendak. 4 for Joshua,
Dan Blum, and Pete.
 
> That was covered with vines
> Lived twelve little girls
> In two straight lines.
 
"Madeline", or any of the Madeline books, by Ludwig Bemelmans.
They all start with the same sentence. 4 for Joshua, Dan Blum,
and Pete.
 
> In the cool of the pool
> He was splashing,
> Enjoying the jungle's great joys.
 
"Horton Hears a Who", by Dr. Seuss.
 
 
 
> 1. On "Wheel of Fortune", if your spin lands on the Jackpot space,
> what two things """are""" you asked to do, in order, in order to win
> the jackpot?
 
Correctly call a letter (meaning, name an unrevealed consonant that's
in the solution -- they say "a letter" on the show, so I did not
require "consonant") and then (after instances of the letter are
revealed) give the solution. 4 for Pete.
 
The Jackpot space no longer exists. If Wikipedia is correct, it
was removed in 2013.
 
> 2. On "Wheel of Fortune", the player in the Bonus Round """is""" given
> *which 6* common letters to start?
 
In the order listed on the show: R, S, T, L, N, E. (Still true.)
4 for Joshua, Dan Blum, and Pete.
 
> total retail price of the items therein. As you know, the one
> that comes closest without going over wins their showcase --
> but how can the winner also receive the other showcase?
 
1998 answer: By coming within $99 of the price (of his/her own
showcase). (We accepted "within $100".) 2021 answer: Within $250.
I did not accept "by getting it exactly", which is not the criterion,
and incidentally is something that happened on the show in December
2009 for the first time in over 30 years. 4 for Joshua and Pete.
 
> 4. On "The Hollywood Squares", if a player guessed wrong, the square
> sometimes went to the opponent and sometimes not. When did
> it not?
 
When it would give the opponent a win (i.e. 3 squares in a row or any
5 squares -- saying just one of these possibilities was insufficient).
4 for Dan Tilque and Pete.
 
> make it explicit: if the answer is N, this means that after
> it is decided which team will play the category, the Nth wrong
> answer is the last one they are allowed to give.
 
3. (Hence the term "strike" for a wrong answer. Still true.)
4 for Joshua and Pete.
 
> 6. On the British show "Mastermind", if two players were tied for
> the lead as to the number of questions answered correctly,
> what was the first method used to break the tie?
 
Number of times each player passed.
 
The question is in the past tense because the show hasn't been
broadcast in Ontario for many years. I was surprised to learn
recently that it's still running in Britain, but if Wikipedia is
correct, this rule hasn't changed anyway.
 
> 7. What """happens""" on "Jeopardy!" if there is a tie at the end of
> Final Jeopardy!? (In a regular game, not a tournament.)
 
1998 answer: Both players win. (They are called co-champions:
they both get to keep the cash and, if it wasn't their 5th win,
play again on the next regular show.) 2021 answer: Only one
player is allowed to win; to decide the game, the tied players are
given an extra question. (But there is no 5-win limit any more.)
4 for Joshua, Dan Blum, and Pete.
 
> who selected it will have no money yet. In this case, what
> """is""" the maximum (in dollars) that the player is allowed
> to wager?
 
The maximum dollar value on the board. In 1998, $500. In 2021,
$1,000. 4 for Joshua, Dan Blum, and Pete.
 
> 9. Still on "Jeopardy!", at what moment """are""" players first
> allowed to ring in on a normal "clue"?
 
When the host finishes reading it aloud (and a set of lights,
unseen by the home audience, go on; still true). 4 for Joshua,
Dan Blum, and Pete.
 
In more detail, as explained by Ken Jennings in "Brainiac":
 
Once Alex Trebek finishes reaching each question, a staffer sitting
in front of the stage flicks a switch, activating rows of lights
beside and below the game board. At that point, your signaling
device is activated. Ringing in early actually deactivates your
buzzer for a fifth of a second or so, long enough for somebody
else to beat you.
 
> 10. And which player """makes""" the first selection in the Double
> Jeopardy! round?
 
The player in last (third) place at that point. (Still true.)
4 for everyone.
 
In case if a tie for last place, no explanation is given on the show,
but the rule is that it's whichever of the tied players is nearer
to the physical position usually occupied by the returning champion.
Obviously, this could *be* the returning champion.
 
 
Scores, if there are no errors:
 
GAME 4 ROUNDS-> 2 3 4 6 TOTALS
TOPICS-> Spo Can Lit Ent
Pete Gayde 16 11 26 36 89
Joshua Kreitzer 17 18 24 28 87
Dan Blum 2 11 28 20 61
Dan Tilque 0 24 4 8 36
Erland Sommarskog 0 8 -- -- 8
 
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Toronto insane programmers throughout the world..."
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"Or their bosses..." -- Steve Summit
 
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