Monday, November 11, 2019

Digest for rec.games.trivia@googlegroups.com - 7 updates in 2 topics

tool@panix.com (Dan Blum): Nov 10 01:38PM

> He was nicknamed "the Flying Dutchman" due to his superb speed
> and German heritage. His baseball card is among the rarest and
> most expensive ones -- only about 57 copies are known to exist.
 
Honus Wagner
 
> died from starvation in the resulting war. The lead singer
> of the Dead Kennedys incorporated this nation's name into his
> stage name.
 
Biafra
 
> constitutional monarchy, but this independence lasted only a
> month before a bloody war ended it. Years earlier, Freddie
> Mercury was born in this territory.
 
Zanzibar
 
> 3. This country split peacefully into two in 1993, 4 years after
> the Velvet Revolution brought an end to Communist rule.
 
Czechoslovakia
 
> 4. This New England state was an independent nation, with its
> own constitution, from 1777 until joining the US in 1791.
> It even briefly considered joining Canada instead.
 
Vermont
 
> 5. This kingdom was an independent monarchy for nearly 100 years
> before it was overthrown by the US Marines for the benefit of
> a private citizen.
 
Hawaii
 
> the fall of Rome, and lasted until the end of the World War I.
> Most of its territory was split into four countries, two of
> which themselves no longer exist either.
 
Austro-Hungarian Empire
 
> 7. This empire was one of the largest on Earth, at its peak
> spanning parts of the Middle East, North Africa, and Eastern
> Europe. It was dissolved with the Treaty of S?vres.
 
Ottoman Empire
 
> the Tynwald, claims to be the oldest continuous parliamentary
> body in the world. The island is notable for having no national
> speed limit.
 
Isle of Man
 
> 9. This former nation famously produced the Trabant, a car made
> primarily of Duroplast plastic.
 
East Germany
 
> the city is now known as Kaliningrad. Although its practical
> independence ended earlier, the nation was not formally abolished
> until 1947-02-25.
 
Prussia
 
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Dan Blum tool@panix.com
"I wouldn't have believed it myself if I hadn't just made it up."
Erland Sommarskog <esquel@sommarskog.se>: Nov 10 04:46PM +0100

> died from starvation in the resulting war. The lead singer
> of the Dead Kennedys incorporated this nation's name into his
> stage name.
 
Biafra

> constitutional monarchy, but this independence lasted only a
> month before a bloody war ended it. Years earlier, Freddie
> Mercury was born in this territory.
 
Zanzibar

> 3. This country split peacefully into two in 1993, 4 years after
> the Velvet Revolution brought an end to Communist rule.
 
Czechoslovakia

> 4. This New England state was an independent nation, with its
> own constitution, from 1777 until joining the US in 1791.
> It even briefly considered joining Canada instead.
 
Vermont

> 5. This kingdom was an independent monarchy for nearly 100 years
> before it was overthrown by the US Marines for the benefit of
> a private citizen.
 
Hawaii

> the fall of Rome, and lasted until the end of the World War I.
> Most of its territory was split into four countries, two of
> which themselves no longer exist either.
 
Austria-Hungary
 
Four...or six depending how you count. And there were pieces that
ended up in a seventh country.

> 7. This empire was one of the largest on Earth, at its peak
> spanning parts of the Middle East, North Africa, and Eastern
> Europe. It was dissolved with the Treaty of Sèvres.
 
Ottoman Empire
 
> the Tynwald, claims to be the oldest continuous parliamentary
> body in the world. The island is notable for having no national
> speed limit.
 
Isle of Man

> 9. This former nation famously produced the Trabant, a car made
> primarily of Duroplast plastic.
 
Die so-genante DDR

> the city is now known as Kaliningrad. Although its practical
> independence ended earlier, the nation was not formally abolished
> until 1947-02-25.
 
Prussia
Calvin <334152@gmail.com>: Nov 10 03:39PM -0800

On Sunday, November 10, 2019 at 6:24:57 PM UTC+10, Mark Brader wrote:
 
> played right field for 16 seasons. The opposing team's fans
> would regularly chant his first name in a jeering chorus. In the
> episode, this player ends up being the only star fit to play.
 
Daryl Strawberry
 
> steroids with him. In the episode, he is too burdened rescuing
> a woman and her possessions from a house fire to make the
> championship game.
 
McGwire
 
> died from starvation in the resulting war. The lead singer
> of the Dead Kennedys incorporated this nation's name into his
> stage name.
 
Biafra
 
> constitutional monarchy, but this independence lasted only a
> month before a bloody war ended it. Years earlier, Freddie
> Mercury was born in this territory.
 
Zanzibar
 
> 3. This country split peacefully into two in 1993, 4 years after
> the Velvet Revolution brought an end to Communist rule.
 
Yemen
 
> 4. This New England state was an independent nation, with its
> own constitution, from 1777 until joining the US in 1791.
> It even briefly considered joining Canada instead.
 
Maine, Vermont
 
> 5. This kingdom was an independent monarchy for nearly 100 years
> before it was overthrown by the US Marines for the benefit of
> a private citizen.
 
American Samoa?
 
> the fall of Rome, and lasted until the end of the World War I.
> Most of its territory was split into four countries, two of
> which themselves no longer exist either.
 
Hapsburg

> 7. This empire was one of the largest on Earth, at its peak
> spanning parts of the Middle East, North Africa, and Eastern
> Europe. It was dissolved with the Treaty of Sèvres.
 
Ottoman
 
> the Tynwald, claims to be the oldest continuous parliamentary
> body in the world. The island is notable for having no national
> speed limit.
 
Greenland?
 
> 9. This former nation famously produced the Trabant, a car made
> primarily of Duroplast plastic.
 
Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia
 
> the city is now known as Kaliningrad. Although its practical
> independence ended earlier, the nation was not formally abolished
> until 1947-02-25.
 
Prussia?
 
cheers,
calvin
Dan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com>: Nov 11 01:40AM -0800

On 11/10/19 12:24 AM, Mark Brader wrote:
> Reds, and White Sox player is a 14-time All-Star and winner
> of 8 Gold Gloves. He develops gigantism after overdosing on
> a brain and nerve tonic provided to the team by Mr. Burns.
 
Ken Griffy Jr
 
> died from starvation in the resulting war. The lead singer
> of the Dead Kennedys incorporated this nation's name into his
> stage name.
 
Biafra
 
> constitutional monarchy, but this independence lasted only a
> month before a bloody war ended it. Years earlier, Freddie
> Mercury was born in this territory.
 
Zanzibar
 
 
> 3. This country split peacefully into two in 1993, 4 years after
> the Velvet Revolution brought an end to Communist rule.
 
Czechoslovakia
 
 
> 4. This New England state was an independent nation, with its
> own constitution, from 1777 until joining the US in 1791.
> It even briefly considered joining Canada instead.
 
Vermont
 
 
> 5. This kingdom was an independent monarchy for nearly 100 years
> before it was overthrown by the US Marines for the benefit of
> a private citizen.
 
Hawaii
 
> the fall of Rome, and lasted until the end of the World War I.
> Most of its territory was split into four countries, two of
> which themselves no longer exist either.
 
Austria-Hungary
 
 
> 7. This empire was one of the largest on Earth, at its peak
> spanning parts of the Middle East, North Africa, and Eastern
> Europe. It was dissolved with the Treaty of Sèvres.
 
Ottoman Empire
 
> the Tynwald, claims to be the oldest continuous parliamentary
> body in the world. The island is notable for having no national
> speed limit.
 
Isle of Man
 
 
> 9. This former nation famously produced the Trabant, a car made
> primarily of Duroplast plastic.
 
Yugoslavia
 
> the city is now known as Kaliningrad. Although its practical
> independence ended earlier, the nation was not formally abolished
> until 1947-02-25.
 
Prussia
 
--
Dan Tilque
Calvin <334152@gmail.com>: Nov 10 03:22PM -0800

On Friday, November 8, 2019 at 9:25:10 PM UTC+10, Mark Brader wrote:
 
> > 132
 
> 22 for each team, 132 in total, as I said. The question was ambiguous
> three ways (two of which give the same answer).
 
22 games does not allow for each team to play each other team. The question is not ambiguous if properly read.
 
cheers,
calvin
msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Nov 10 11:19PM -0600

"Calvin":
>>>> 5 In a 12 team sports league, how many games must be scheduled
>>>> for each team to play each other team both at home and away?
 
>>> 132
 
Mark Brader:
>> 22 for each team, 132 in total, as I said. The question was ambiguous
>> three ways (two of which give the same answer).
 
I take it back. It's ambiguous *four* ways, at least two of which
give the same answer.

"Calvin":
> 22 games does not allow for each team to play each other team.
 
22 for *each team*, as I said. 11 against each other team at home
and 11 against each other team away.
 
 
> The question is not ambiguous if properly read.
 
In other words, it *is* ambiguous, but you imagine that only the
reading you originally had in mind is the "proper" one. Come on!
 
 
In discussion of sports leagues, it is common to speak of the total
number of games each team must play. For example, major-league
baseball has a 162-game schedule; the NHL has an 84-game schedule;
the CFL has an 18-game schedule. "How many games" can easily be
read with that meaning rather than "how many individual games"
as you intended. That's a two-way ambiguity.
 
Another source of ambiguity is that the words "how many games
must be scheduled for each team" may be read as grouped together.
This third reading again gives the answer 22.
 
Finally, in some leagues (such as the Canadian Inquisition), every
day that's a game day, all teams play. We play a 10-game schedule
in the regular season and that means that there are 10 *game days*,
although it's also true that each team plays 10 games.
 
I suspect that this fourth reading also gives the answer 22, but
I don't have a ready way to prove it, and it doesn't matter.
--
Mark Brader diagnostic: n. Someone who's not sure
Toronto about science and evolution, either.
msb@vex.net --Steve Summit
 
My text in this article is in the public domain.
Erland Sommarskog <esquel@sommarskog.se>: Nov 11 08:10AM +0100

> Another source of ambiguity is that the words "how many games
> must be scheduled for each team" may be read as grouped together.
> This third reading again gives the answer 22.
 
Yes, there is definitely a catch-22 in this question.
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