Friday, April 05, 2019

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Calvin <334152@gmail.com>: Apr 04 07:01PM -0700

1 What sport is played professionally by the San Francisco Giants and Pittsburgh Pirates?
2 The US sitcom "The Conners" is a spin-off continuation of which other series?
3 What branch of astronomy deals with the origin and evolution of the Universe?
4 Sartorially speaking, what links weightlifting, golf and baseball?
5 According to Albert Einstein, God does not play what with the universe?
6 Which animal appears on the coat of arms of Cote d'Ivoire?
7 On a naval vessel, what is issued to crew members following an order to 'splice the mainbrace'?
8 For which 1999 American romantic drama did Hilary Swank win a Best Actress Oscar?
9 Which are the TWO utilities in the classic version of Monopoly?
10 Entomology is the study of which creatures?
 
I'm away next week so wont score this until before 15th April.
 
cheers,
calvin
msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Apr 04 09:21PM -0500

"Calvin":
> 1 What sport is played professionally by the San Francisco Giants
> and Pittsburgh Pirates?
 
Baseball.
 
> 2 The US sitcom "The Conners" is a spin-off continuation of which
> other series?
 
"Roseanne", I suppose.
 
> 3 What branch of astronomy deals with the origin and evolution of
> the Universe?
 
Cosmogony.
 
> 4 Sartorially speaking, what links weightlifting, golf and baseball?
 
Caps?
 
> 5 According to Albert Einstein, God does not play what with the universe?
 
Dice.
 
> 6 Which animal appears on the coat of arms of Cote d'Ivoire?
 
Elephant.
 
> 7 On a naval vessel, what is issued to crew members following an
> order to 'splice the mainbrace'?
 
Liquor.
 
> 8 For which 1999 American romantic drama did Hilary Swank win a Best
> Actress Oscar?
 
"Boys Don't Cry".
 
> 9 Which are the TWO utilities in the classic version of Monopoly?
 
Electric Company, Water Works.
 
> 10 Entomology is the study of which creatures?
 
Insects.

> I'm away next week so wont score this until before 15th April.
 
Have fun, if applicable. (And if not, then try to anyway.)
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tool@panix.com (Dan Blum): Apr 05 03:21AM

> 1 What sport is played professionally by the San Francisco Giants and Pittsburgh Pirates?
 
baseball
 
> 2 The US sitcom "The Conners" is a spin-off continuation of which other series?
 
Roseanne
 
> 3 What branch of astronomy deals with the origin and evolution of the Universe?
 
cosmology
 
> 5 According to Albert Einstein, God does not play what with the universe?
 
dice
 
> 6 Which animal appears on the coat of arms of Cote d'Ivoire?
 
elephant; ibex
 
> 7 On a naval vessel, what is issued to crew members following an order to 'splice the mainbrace'?
 
rope
 
> 8 For which 1999 American romantic drama did Hilary Swank win a Best Actress Oscar?
 
Boys Don't Cry
 
> 9 Which are the TWO utilities in the classic version of Monopoly?
 
Water Works and Electric Company
 
> 10 Entomology is the study of which creatures?
 
insects
 
 
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tool@panix.com (Dan Blum): Apr 04 01:36PM

> main airport collided with another one taxiing along the runway,
> resulting in 583 deaths. Name *either one of the two airlines*
> involved.
 
KLM
 
> 2. In 1958 an aircraft crashed on takeoff from Munich Airport.
> Several players and staff of *which well-known soccer team*
> were killed?
 
Arsenal; Juventus
 
> The investigation revealed that ice crystals had formed in the
> fuel during the flight, and on final approach they had blocked
> its flow to the engines. What *model of aircraft* was involved?
 
Airbus A320; Boeing 757
 
> of the passengers and crew were released, many more continued
> to be held hostage until Israeli commandos successfully rescued
> almost all of them -- at the airport at *what city*?
 
Entebbe
 
> with approximately half of the passengers and crew perishing
> in the crash. The aircraft crashed as a result of running out
> of fuel. *From what country* did Avianca 52 originate?
 
Argentina
 
> * Game 6, Round 8 - Entertainment - Movie Villains
 
> 1. "Why so serious?"
 
Heath Ledger
 
> 2. "I never drink... wine."
 
Bela Lugosi
 
> 3. "No wire hangers... ever!"
 
Faye Dunaway
 
> 4. "I... drink... your... milkshake."
 
Daniel Day-Lewis
 
> 5. "No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to die!"
 
Auric Goldfinger
 
> 6. "A boy's best friend is his mother."
 
Anthony Perkins
 
> 7. "I'm having an old friend for dinner."
 
Hannibal Lecter
 
> 8. "Greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right.
> Greed works."
 
Gordon Gekko
 
> truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children.
> And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious
> anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers."
 
Samuel L. Jackson
 
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Erland Sommarskog <esquel@sommarskog.se>: Apr 04 08:28PM +0200

> main airport collided with another one taxiing along the runway,
> resulting in 583 deaths. Name *either one of the two airlines*
> involved.
 
Iberia

> 2. In 1958 an aircraft crashed on takeoff from Munich Airport.
> Several players and staff of *which well-known soccer team*
> were killed?
 
Bayern München

> The investigation revealed that ice crystals had formed in the
> fuel during the flight, and on final approach they had blocked
> its flow to the engines. What *model of aircraft* was involved?
 
Boeing 777

> fuel due to a leak. The pilots managed to successfully glide the
> aircraft to a runway in the Azores archipelago in the Atlantic,
> and again, no one died. Name the *airline* involved.
 
TAP

> of the passengers and crew were released, many more continued
> to be held hostage until Israeli commandos successfully rescued
> almost all of them -- at the airport at *what city*?
 
Kampala

> happened after a series of mishaps after one of the pilots had
> let his son sit at the controls during flight. What was the
> flight's *destination*?
 
Vladivostok

> spoilers, leading to the DC-8 aircraft crashing near the airport.
> All passengers and crew perished. *Within 1 year, when* did this
> accident take place?
 
1961
Dan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com>: Apr 04 12:13PM -0700

Mark Brader wrote:
> main airport collided with another one taxiing along the runway,
> resulting in 583 deaths. Name *either one of the two airlines*
> involved.
 
Pan Am
 
> of the passengers and crew were released, many more continued
> to be held hostage until Israeli commandos successfully rescued
> almost all of them -- at the airport at *what city*?
 
Entebbe
 
> happened after a series of mishaps after one of the pilots had
> let his son sit at the controls during flight. What was the
> flight's *destination*?
 
Vladivostok
 
> 3. "No wire hangers... ever!"
> 4. "I... drink... your... milkshake."
> 5. "No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to die!"
 
Blofeld
 
> 6. "A boy's best friend is his mother."
> 7. "I'm having an old friend for dinner."
 
Hannibal Lecter
 
 
--
Dan Tilque
Calvin <334152@gmail.com>: Apr 04 07:19PM -0700

On Thursday, April 4, 2019 at 5:25:30 PM UTC+10, Mark Brader wrote:
 
> main airport collided with another one taxiing along the runway,
> resulting in 583 deaths. Name *either one of the two airlines*
> involved.
 
Concorde
 
> 2. In 1958 an aircraft crashed on takeoff from Munich Airport.
> Several players and staff of *which well-known soccer team*
> were killed?
 
Manchester United
 
> The investigation revealed that ice crystals had formed in the
> fuel during the flight, and on final approach they had blocked
> its flow to the engines. What *model of aircraft* was involved?
 
Airbus, 777

> of the passengers and crew were released, many more continued
> to be held hostage until Israeli commandos successfully rescued
> almost all of them -- at the airport at *what city*?
 
Tripoli
 
> 3. "No wire hangers... ever!"
> 4. "I... drink... your... milkshake."
> 5. "No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to die!"
 
Goldfinger
 
> 6. "A boy's best friend is his mother."
 
Perkins
 
> 7. "I'm having an old friend for dinner."
 
Hopkins
 
> 8. "Greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right.
> Greed works."
 
Gecko
 
> truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children.
> And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious
> anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers."
 
Nope.
 
cheers,
calvin
Calvin <334152@gmail.com>: Apr 04 06:28PM -0700

On Friday, March 29, 2019 at 1:49:57 PM UTC+10, Calvin wrote:
 
> 1 Which fictional character created by James Thurber has been portrayed on film by Danny Kaye and Ben Stiller?
 
Walter Mitty
 
> 2 Which 18th century poet was known as 'The Bard of Ayrshire'?
 
Robbie Burns
 
> 3 What should a person suffering from coeliac disease avoid eating?
 
Gluten
 
> 4 In relation to a series of treaties, what four words does the acronym SALT stand for?
 
Strategic Arms Limitation Treaty / Talks
My original notes say to accept either
 
> 5 Motown music originated in which US city?
 
Detroit
 
> 6 What naturally occurring objects might be pectoral, pelvic, or caudal (among others)?
 
Fins
 
> 7 Aragon and Andalusia are regions in which European country?
 
Spain
 
> 8 Associated with Kylie Minogue, Rick Astley and Bananarama among others, which English songwriting and record producing trio had great success from the mid 1980s to early 1990s? All 3 surnames required.
 
Stock, Aitken and Waterman
No one got this. Where's Gareth when you need him?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_produced_by_Stock_Aitken_Waterman
 
 
> 9 Which sport is also known as pugilism?
 
Boxing
 
> 10 A 1962 non-fiction bestseller by Helen Gurley Brown was titled "Sex and the … what"? Please supply the TWO missing words.
 
Single Girl
 
 
Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Q5 Q6 Q7 Q8 Q9 Q10 TOTAL TB Quiz 557
1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 9 41 Mark Brader
1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 9 41 Pete Gayde
1 1 1 1 1 0 1 0 1 1 8 39 Dan Blum
1 0 1 1 1 0 1 0 1 1 7 36 Bruce Bowler
0 0 1 1 1 0 1 0 1 1 6 32 Dan Tilque
0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 2 12 Erland S
- - - - - - - - - - --- ----------
4 3 5 5 5 2 6 0 6 5 41 68%
 
Congrats Mark and Pete.
 
cheers,
calvin
Calvin <334152@gmail.com>: Apr 04 12:26PM -0700

On Thursday, April 4, 2019 at 5:23:51 PM UTC+10, Mark Brader wrote:

> > piece to be captured *without* capturing an opposing piece of
> > greater or equal value? What term do we use for that?
 
> Sacrifice. 4 for Dan Blum, Joshua, Dan Tilque, and Pete.
 
Protest. Surely this was protested in the original game too?
 
> Not the same as a gambit. It's a gambit if the opponent has
> a reasonable alternative to making the offered capture.
 
Indeed, which is precisely what the word induce implies. The question is ambiguous IMHO and either answer should be allowed.
 
cheers,
calvin
msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Apr 04 03:53PM -0500

Mark Brader:
>>> greater or equal value? What term do we use for that?
 
>> Sacrifice. 4 for Dan Blum, Joshua, Dan Tilque, and Pete.
 
>> Not the same as a gambit.
 
"Calvin":
> Protest. Surely this was protested in the original game too?
 
No, actually, there were no protests on this question, perhaps
because the Cellar Rats have produced so many inexact questions
this season that everyone's getting used to them.
 
>> It's a gambit if the opponent has a reasonable alternative to
>> making the offered capture.
 
> Indeed, which is precisely what the word induce implies.
 
Well, that was my word. In the original game the first sentence was
not present and the question referred to a move "which intentionally
results in one of his own pieces been [sic] captured". I changed it
because it was ambiguous and could refer to an exchange.
 
> The question is ambiguous IMHO and either answer should be allowed.
 
Denied. You have misinterpreted "induces" as meaning "tends to induce".
Something hasn't been induced unless it actually happens:
 
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/induce
http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/induce
 
(Sorry; I admit it's a close call. And by the way, if I had accepted
it, I would also have accepted Erland's "offer", which could describe
a gambit. And I would have notic incidentally that in English a
"sacrifice" in the context of religion may also be referred to as an
"offering".)
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Erland Sommarskog <esquel@sommarskog.se>: Apr 04 11:15PM +0200


> Protest. Surely this was protested in the original game too?
 
>> Not the same as a gambit. It's a gambit if the opponent has
>> a reasonable alternative to making the offered capture.
 
I agree with Mark's ruling. The question clearly describes a sacrifice,
which is an event that can happen in about any phase of the play.
 
I don't think Mark's description of "gambit" is wholly accurate, though.
There is something very specific about a gambit: a gambit is a type of
opening. In fact, the article on "gambit" in Wikipedia says:
 
A gambit (from ancient Italian gambetto, meaning "to trip") is a chess
opening in which a player, more often White, sacrifices material, usually
a pawn, with the hope of achieving a resulting advantageous position
 
So a gambit includes a sacrifice, but it is not a sacrifice in itself.
Calvin <334152@gmail.com>: Apr 04 02:41PM -0700

On Friday, April 5, 2019 at 7:15:34 AM UTC+10, Erland Sommarskog wrote:
 
> A gambit (from ancient Italian gambetto, meaning "to trip") is a chess
> opening in which a player, more often White, sacrifices material, usually
> a pawn, with the hope of achieving a resulting advantageous position
 
I was thinking about the difference between a gambit and a sacrifice and came up with five:
 
1. A gambit is usually in the opening, a sacrifice usually in the middle or end game
2. A gambit usually involves a pawn rather than a piece
3. A sacrifice (normally) involves an unequal exchange of material, while a gambit is material exchanged for position only
4. A gambit is merely offered as the Swedish word suggests, where as a sacrifice is (virtually) forced
5. In a gambit, the opponent is offered the first (and probably only) capture. In a sac, the proponent makes the first capture and the opponent is (usually) forced to make the second.
 
So there are plenty of ways in which the question could have been clearer.
 
This fifth one is problematic since the question (imho) implies the offer precedes the capture and is therefore a gambit. So I don't agree with Mark's ruling but it has a logical basis so can accept it. I certainly didn't fully appreciate the meaning of induce in this context.
 
cheers,
calvin
msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Apr 04 06:26PM -0500

Erland Sommarskog:
 
> A gambit (from ancient Italian gambetto, meaning "to trip") is a chess
> opening in which a player, more often White, sacrifices material, usually
> a pawn, with the hope of achieving a resulting advantageous position
 
That's wrong, and that is my point. The sacrifice of material is *offered*.
In particular, "queen's gambit declined" is a well-known opening. (The
material offered is a not a queen, as you might guess from the name, but
a pawn on the queen's side of the board.)
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