Wednesday, July 11, 2018

Digest for rec.games.trivia@googlegroups.com - 12 updates in 4 topics

Dan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com>: Jul 10 09:28AM -0700

Mark Brader wrote:
> ...
>> Mark gets credit for being the only one to name Baffin.
 
> Well, I think I am the closest of the entrants to it.
 
You certainly did say Baffin. Here's your answer list, which I copied
and pasted:
 
| Greenland, New Guinea, Borneo, Baffin, Sumatra.
 
 
> I commented: "I hope Ellesmere isn't on there -- I think it might be #6."
> In fact it's #10 and another Canadian Arctic island, Victoria, is larger
> at #9. #6 is Sumatra, which was a wrong answer for me.
 
Right, you missed Madagascar
 
>> 16 and WISE 0855. I didn't expect anyone to know those, so I excluded them.
 
> Oh, I say! In that case Sirius is a wrong answer and I request a rescoring
> with it not accepted.
 
I explicitly excluded brown dwarfs. Sirius is a correct answer and the
scoring stands.
 
 
--
Dan Tilque
Dan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com>: Jul 10 09:51AM -0700

Erland Sommarskog wrote:
> degree of autonomy. For instance, so far, it is the only area to have
> left the European Union. That would make Queensland the next in line, which
> some entrants (not me) had.
 
At the bottom of the quiz, I defined first level administrative
subdivisions thusly:
 
| Note: First level administrative subdivisions is a collective name for
| subnational units (states, provinces, territories, semi-autonymous
| regions, etc.) that are not part of a larger subnational unit.
 
Note that it includes semi-autonymous regions. Which is what Greenland
is. So the answer stands.
 
As for leaving the EU, according to Wikipedia, Algeria left when it
became independent and Saint Barthélemy, a Caribbean island owned by
France, left also. I thought that St-Pierre et Miquelon and French
Guinea also left, but apparently I'm wrong.
 
--
Dan Tilque
Erland Sommarskog <esquel@sommarskog.se>: Jul 10 10:29PM +0200

>> Well, I think I am the closest of the entrants to it.
 
> You certainly did say Baffin. Here's your answer list, which I copied
> and pasted:
 
I think Mark wants to say that is situated closest to the island of the
contestants. Hey, he even lives in the same country.
 
Myself, I have flewn over it many times and some times looked down on
the ice and been think "hope we don't have to land here". I did consider it
for a short moment, before I entered Sumatra as my #5.
msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Jul 10 05:20PM -0500

Dan Tilque:
>>> there are two systems that fit in between Barnard's and Wolf 359: Luhman
>>> 16 and WISE 0855. I didn't expect anyone to know those, so I excluded them.
 
Mark Brader:
>> Oh, I say! In that case Sirius is a wrong answer and I request a rescoring
>> with it not accepted.

Dan Tilque:
> I explicitly excluded brown dwarfs.
 
But you didn't mention, above, that those two were brown dwarfs. Sorry
for not knowing.
 
> Sirius is a correct answer and the scoring stands.
 
Good enough, thanks.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto | "C takes the point of view that the programmer
msb@vex.net | is always right" -- Michael DeCorte
 
My text in this article is in the public domain.
msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Jul 10 05:24PM -0500

Dan Tilque:
> became independent and Saint Barthélemy, a Caribbean island owned by
> France, left also. I thought that St-Pierre et Miquelon and French
> Guinea also left, but apparently I'm wrong.
 
I don't know about St-Barthélemy, but Algeria was independent decades
before the EU was formed. I've heard that St-Pierre et Miquelon gave
up overseas-department status because of European taxes, but that also
happened before the EU was formed -- perhaps they left the EC.
 
There is no "French Guinea", but as far as I know the overseas departments
such as French Guiana are part of the EU.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto | "B-b-but laziness is the only virtue I have *left*!"
msb@vex.net | -- Jutta Degener
 
My text in this article is in the public domain.
Dan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com>: Jul 10 08:12PM -0700

Mark Brader wrote:
>> I explicitly excluded brown dwarfs.
 
> But you didn't mention, above, that those two were brown dwarfs. Sorry
> for not knowing.
 
You chopped off the first part of that sentence. It started "If you
include brown dwarfs, ..."
 
--
Dan Tilque
Erland Sommarskog <esquel@sommarskog.se>: Jul 11 09:53AM +0200

> I don't know about St-Barthélemy, but Algeria was independent decades
> before the EU was formed.
 
I guess that Dan to simplify equates EU with its predecessors, or simply
sees it as the same thing which have had different names over the years.
 
The difference between Greenland and Algeria is that Algeria left exactly
because it became independent. Saint Barthélemy is a similar case: according
to Wikipedia, they voted to leave Guadelope in 2003 to become an "overseas
collectivity of France", and I guess this had the consequence that they
are no longer part of the European Union.
 
Greenland on the other hand, first gained autonomy from Denmark, and then
in 1982 they voted to leave the EEC (as it was called then). This is
different from the Faroe Islands that were autonomous when Denmark
joined the EEC, so they decided to stay out from the beginning.
tool@panix.com (Dan Blum): Jul 10 02:06PM


> ** Final, Round 9 - Canadiana
 
> * Firsts -- Where in Canada?
 
> 1. In what city was "O Canada" first performed, in 1880?
 
Halifax; Toronto
 
> 2. In 1887, the first migratory bird sanctuary in North America
> -- The "Last Mountain Lake Bird Sanctuary" -- was established by
> Lieutenant-Governor Edgar Dewdney in what current-day province?
 
British Columbia; Alberta
 
> 3. In 1959, at the urging of its mayor Stephen Juba, what city
> was the first in North America to use a central emergency number?
 
Toronto
 
> * Discount Canadian Airlines
 
> Name these current and aspiring discount airlines:
 
> 4. http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-9/air/4.jpg
 
Porter
 
> 5. http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-9/air/5.jpg
 
Porter
 
> 6. http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-9/air/6.jpg
 
WestJet
 
> * Charter of Rights and Freedoms
 
> 11. Subsection 16(2), under "Official Languages of Canada".
 
specifies English and French as official languages
 
--
_______________________________________________________________________
Dan Blum tool@panix.com
"I wouldn't have believed it myself if I hadn't just made it up."
Dan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com>: Jul 10 10:12AM -0700

Mark Brader wrote:
 
> 2. In 1887, the first migratory bird sanctuary in North America
> -- The "Last Mountain Lake Bird Sanctuary" -- was established by
> Lieutenant-Governor Edgar Dewdney in what current-day province?
 
Newfoundland and Labrador
 
 
> 3. In 1959, at the urging of its mayor Stephen Juba, what city
> was the first in North America to use a central emergency number?
 
Winnipeg
 
 
--
Dan Tilque
Jason Kreitzer <jk71875@gmail.com>: Jul 10 08:46PM -0700

On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 2:01:47 AM UTC-4, Mark Brader wrote:
 
> ** Final, Round 9 - Canadiana
 
> * Firsts -- Where in Canada?
 
> 1. In what city was "O Canada" first performed, in 1880?
Ottawa?
> 2. In 1887, the first migratory bird sanctuary in North America
> -- The "Last Mountain Lake Bird Sanctuary" -- was established by
> Lieutenant-Governor Edgar Dewdney in what current-day province?
Manitoba
Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com>: Jul 10 09:56PM +0100


> 1 Which 2003 movie's subtitle was 'Rise of the Machines'?
 
Terminator 3
 
> 2 Which Australian singer/songwriter has a backing group called the
> Bad Seeds?
 
Nick Cave
 
> 3 Which Austrian composer (1732-1809) is recognised as the 'Father of
> the Symphony'?
 
Schubert?
 
> 4 Which continent lies in the northern, southern, eastern and western
> Hemispheres?
 
Asia?
 
> 5 Which corpulent, orchid-loving private eye was created by Rex Stout?
 
No idea
 
> 6 Which creature is most likely to make a sibilant noise?
 
Snake
 
> 7 Which German Admiral offered his country's unconditional surrender
> on the 7th May 1945?
 
Jodl
 
> Literature, a Pulitzer Prize, the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the
> Légion d'Honneur, as well as one (or more) Grammies, Oscars and Golden
> Globe?
 
Winston Churchill
 
> 9 Which movie was released in France under the title 'La Guerre des
> Etoiles'?
 
Star Wars
 
> 10 Which NFL team lost four consecutive Superbowls from 1990-1993?
 
Buffalo Bills
Erland Sommarskog <esquel@sommarskog.se>: Jul 10 10:38PM +0200

> 1. This is an official language of Haiti and of nowhere else.
> Its full name in English is two words, but just give the
> second one.
 
CREOLE

> 2. If Wikipedia is correct, "hlutabréfamarkaður" is the word for
> "stock market" in this language.
 
ICELANDIC

> 3. This British possession is considered the world's most isolated
> inhabited island. It has about 250 residents and no airport,
> and is 1,500 miles from either St. Helena or South Africa.
 
ASCENSION

> * Vehicles
 
> 5. This ocean liner sank in 1956 after colliding with the Stockholm.
 
ANDREA DORIA
 

> 8. The last time that the UK *on its own* went to war (de facto),
> which country were they fighting against?
 
ARGENTINA
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