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The GOLQ Institute <list@golq.org>: Nov 24 12:14AM -0800

RESULTS & ANSWER KEY for Golden Oldies Lyrics Quiz #369 (GOLQ369)
 
Congratulations to Dale Latimer and DEC & Friends, who, with scores of 500++,
took first place in this quiz. The EJ's & Co., with a score of 500+-, were
close behind.
 
This GOLQ contained songs titled "Yesterday," "Today," and "Tomorrow," as noted
by Vito & the Salutations. "Tomorrow" (song #22) and "Israelites" (song #06)
were both released on the UNI label, a mini-theme I had thought of doing but
which pretty much fizzled out. Part of the reason for this was that one of the
artists I had intended to use, the Foundations, had two big hits in the US, one
of them was used in the GOLQ immediately before this one, and I didn't want to
either use the second big one and thus take both of them out of commission for
a couple of years or use one of their more minor hits. In addition, I had used
the artist that was likely UNI's most successful GOLQ-era charting artist in
the last three GOLQs I had done and really didn't want to use this artist again
so soon. What I did end up doing was choosing as a tie-breaker a song that was
co-written and originally recorded (in the GOLQ era) by the artist who would
become the most successful artist for this incarnation of UNI (late 1966-late
1972) but did not chart in the Hot 100 until 1970. (UNI, a division of MCA
Records, has had at least two incarnations.)
 
The songs used in GOLQ368 impacted this one in more ways than one. For this
GOLQ, I chose a song by a singer with almost the same name as one used in that
quiz because I only recently learned that they were two different singers. I
also used some name similarities within this GOLQ:
 
-- A group led by someone with the last name of Haley and a singer with the
first name of Hayley.
-- Hayley singing a song called "Let's Get Together" and a different song in
the GOLQ that has been recorded under the title of "Let's Get Together"
(although not in the version chosen for this GOLQ).
-- Two artists with Sam in their name and a song about someone named Samantha.
 
GOLQ369's mean score was 393.47, and the median was 430.
 
My thanks to everyone who participated.
 
Tom Pillion has posted GOLQ370.
 
-- Regina Litman <golq369@golq.org>
 
 
Replace all occurrences of "&" in all e-mail addresses with "@".
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tie Breaker Scoring Key
+ after numeric score below indicates a tie-breaker answered correctly.
- indicates partial credit..
x indicates a totally incorrect guess.
. indicates no guess.
 
# on
Pos Score ID Name and E-mail address Team Age(s)
---+-----+--+------------------------------------------------------+---+-------
T01 500++ DL Dale Latimer <bobjersey&PTD.net> 4 50-60
T01 500++ EM DEC & Friends <cochran57&gmail.com> 2 Various
03 500+. EJ The EJ'S & Co.: Ellis, Kyra, Denise, Vinnie, Mitch, 6 31+
Kevin <ellisbromberg&gmail.com>
04 490x+ DT Delphi Trivia Club <rcwkid99&rochester.rr.com> 7 old grey
folks
05 480++ VI The Village Idiots <MrJaded&aol.com> 4
(Doug, Michael, Andrew, Andy)
06 460++ VS Vito & the Salutations <baileyl&colorado.edu> 5-6 boomers
07 440.. WM Will McCorry <wmccorry&ca.inter.net> 1 60
08 430.. RR Really Rockin' In Boston <rardini&cox.net> 7 60s,70s
09 416.. MW Mike Weaver <oldtunes&sbcglobal.net> 1
10 400.+ NA NAVAIRHEADS <tompillion&skybest.com> 1 70
11 360.. TT Team Teitelbaum (Howard, Bonnie, Patty) 3 55-67
<hat_pat&yahoo.com>
12 320.. CO The Coasters (Rick & Kathy Schubert, Magic Marc, 4 64-68
Bigfoot Mae) <rns&san.rr.com>
13 308.. TA Team Asia (Mitch Herczeg) <yherczeg&gmail.com> 1 65
14 198.. JR Jessica Raine <jraine&bostonconservatory.edu> 1 43
15 100.. BS Bryan Shailer <bryanshailer&rogers.com> 1 54
---+-----+--+------------------------------------------------------+---+-------
Pos Score ID Name and E-mail address # on Age(s)
Team
 
The following table gives the individual scoring breakdown. A '-' is used to
indicate that no guess was made for a question, whereas a zero indicates that
a completely incorrect response was submitted.
 
Song#
01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--
DL 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20
EM 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20
EJ 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20
DT 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 10 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20
VI 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 0 20 20 20 20 20
VS 20 20 20 20 - 20 20 20 20 - 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20
WM 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 - 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 - - 20 20
RR 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 - 20 20 20 - - 10
MW 20 20 20 20 - 18 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 18 20 20 20 20 - 20 20 - - 20 20
NA 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 - 20 20 20 20 - 20 20 - 20 20 - - 20 20
TT 20 20 20 20 - 20 20 20 20 - - 20 20 20 20 - 20 20 - 20 20 - - 20 20
CO 20 20 20 - - 20 20 20 20 - - 20 20 20 20 - - 20 - 20 20 - - 20 20
TA 20 - 20 10 - 20 20 20 - - - 20 20 20 18 - - 20 20 20 20 - - 20 20
JR 20 - 20 - - 18 20 - 20 - - 20 - - - 20 20 20 - - - - - - 20
BS 20 - 20 - - - 20 - - - - - - - - - - 0 - - - - - 20 20
--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--
01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
 
=============================================================================
GOLDEN OLDIES LYRICS QUIZ #369 ANSWERS:
 
Answers are in the form:
#number) Artist: Title (year[s]) [peak position on Pop chart] {peak R&B}
 
[-] = did not make pop chart
{-} = did not make R&B chart
{F} = made R&B chart as a flip side
{n/c} = no Billboard R&B chart published during this recording's period
of peak popularity
=============================================================================
 
Why she had to go
I don't know
She wouldn't say
I said something wrong
#01) Beatles, The: "Yesterday" (1965) [1] {n/c}
 
So that I could use Chuck Berry's version of "Roll Over Beethoven" in this GOLQ
without causing anyone to wonder if I intended to use his version or the
Beatles' (which also charted), I did two things. One of them was to choose
what I thought would be a very familiar set of lines from a song that charted
by the Beatles. I was spot on with this because every entry identified this
song. As for which Beatles song to use, I had already been planning to use the
Strawberry Alarm Clock for the UNI mini-theme in this quiz, so I combined that
group's "Tomorrow" with the Beatles' "Yesterday" and then added "Today" by the
New Christy Minstrels, something I had been wanting to do for a while.
 
This has become one of the most recorded songs of all time. Ray Charles'
version reached #25 (#9 r&b) in 1967. The unrelated Ray Charles Singers have
also recorded it.
 
Ah, won't you say "Yes"
Don't you say "No"
Make me feel good
#02) Benton, Brook: "Kiddio" (1960) [7] {1}
 
The other thing I did to avoid artist confusion for "Roll Over Beethoven" was
to insert a song by an artist that fits alphabetically between the Beatles and
Chuck Berry.
 
I got the rockin' pneumonia
I need a shot of rhythm and blues
#03) Berry, Chuck, & His Combo: "Roll Over Beethoven" (1956) [29] {2}
 
I chose this song as my tribute to Chuck Berry, who died on March 18 of this
year, because it was the first one of his that I ever knew of, even though it
was through the Beatles' version on their US-release BEATLES SECOND ALBUM. A
few weeks later, I learned of another Berry song through Johnny Rivers' remake
of "Memphis." Not long after that, though, I heard a new song by Berry
himself, "No Particular Place To Go." After 1964, he didn't have any more new
hits except for a pair from a live performance in 1972, but I got familiar with
his earlier recordings through listening to oldies.
 
Other charting versions in the GOLQ era and during the time after that when I
still listened to the current hits of the day:
Velaires - 1961, #51
Beatles - 1964, #68
Electric Light Orchestra - 1973, #42
 
Some day
We'll meet again, my love
Some day
Whenever the spring breaks through
#04) Conniff, Ray, And The Singers: "Somewhere, My Love" (1966) [9] {-}
 
Vito and the Salutations pointed out that this is "Lara's Theme" from the movie
DR. ZHIVAGO.
 
Now when Julie's fella came to call and saw them kissin'
He started home at once
But Julie said, "I'm surprised at you
Don't go actin' like a dunce"
#05) Cooke, Sam: "Cousin Of Mine" (1964) [31] {n/c}
 
This was Sam Cooke's last charting song before his death in December 1964.
 
Get up in the morning
Slaving for bread sir
So that every mouth can be fed
#06) Dekker, Desmond, & The Aces: "Israelites" (1969) [9] {-}
 
I'm just mad about fourteen
Uh, fourteen's mad about me
#07) Donovan: "Mellow Yellow" (1966/67) [2] {-}
 
A novelty version of this song by Senator Bobby & Senator McKinley (the Hardly
Worth-It Players parodying U.S. Senators Robert F. Kennedy and Everett McKinley
Dirksen) reached #99 later in 1967. Senator Dirksen had recently had a spoken-
word hit record called "Gallant Men."
 
NAVAIRHEADS mentioned that Paul McCartney is doing the whispering on this
record.
 
Keep a clean nose
Watch the plain clothes
You don't need a weather man
To know which way the wind blows
#08) Dylan, Bob: "Subterranean Homesick Blues" (1965) [39] {-}
 
A protest group formed in the late 1960s took its name, the Weathermen, from
this song. Later, their name was changed to the gender-neutral Weather
Underground Organization.
 
This party was the first one she ever had attended
It had to happen on our very first date
#09) Everly Brothers, The: "Poor Jenny" (1959) [22] {-}
 
A-red ones and-a green ones
Yellow, white, and blue
Young and old
Rich and poor
#10) Gibbs, Georgia: "The Hula Hoop Song" (1958) [32] {-}
 
I had heard of this song but had never heard it before. A version by Teresa
Brewer, probably a competing cover, reached #38 the same year.
 
A song by Georgia Gibbs not called "I Want You To Be My Baby" is in this GOLQ
because I wanted to use Ellie Greenwich as an artist in this quiz. Since her
only charting song was "I Want You To Be My Baby," I wanted to avoid an artist
ambiguity. I decided to keep this song in this quiz even after I decided to
use one of Ellie's other recordings as a tie-breaker.
 
Delphi Trivia Club, The Village Idiots, and The EJ's & Co. mentioned that she
was backed by Hugo Peretti and His Orchestra.
 
The rabbit spit in the bulldog's face
Joe kept a-beatin' till the early morn'
#11) Haley, Bill, and His Comets: "Birth of the Boogie" (1955) [17] {-}
 
This is a song I hadn't heard or heard of until I started researching some of
his songs recently.
 
Why
Must we say goodbye
Each time we part
My heart wants to die
#12) Jay & The Americans: "Cara Mia" (1965) [4] {-}
 
Right on that Mason-Dixon Line
And swing it from Virginia
To Tennessee with all that love that's in ya
#13) Lewis, Jerry: "Rock-A-Bye Your Baby With A Dixie Melody"
(1956/57) [10] {-}
 
Jerry Lewis died on August 20, 2017. I thought that I'd have to pay tribute to
him by using one of the hits by his son, Gary Lewis, but I decided to see if he
had any charting records in the GOLQ era. It turned out that he had two, this
one and "It All Depends on You" (#68 in 1957). Coincidentally, the similarly-
named Jerry Lee Lewis released a song called "It All Depends" on a Sun Records
EP in 1958. None of the four songs on this EP charted. I thought about using
"It All Depends On You" as my Jerry Lewis song along with "It All Depends" by
Jerry Lee Lewis as a tie-breaker, but I needed to allow for both a J artist and
a T artist for one of my tie-breakers and thus discarded this idea.
 
If I had needed to use a Gary Lewis and the Playboys song to pay tribute to
Jerry, my first choice would have been "Everybody Loves a Clown." When I saw
Gary Lewis perform as part of a HAPPY TOGETHER concert in 2013, he said that he
originally wrote this song for his father to sing. However, this song had been
used too recently in a GOLQ, so I would have had to pick another one. I have
read that Jerry did not leave anything in his will to Gary and the other
children from his first marriage, favoring only his second wife and his
daughter from that second marriage.
 
Aretha Franklin's version of this song reached #37 in 1961. The future "Lady
Soul" does not appear to have made the r&b chart with her recording, which was
done during a time when she was marketed as an easy-listening, jazz type of
vocalist. The best-known version, according to Wikipedia, was by Al Jolson,
recorded in 1918. While he fits here alphabetically, his version did not chart
during the GOLQ era.
 
There's no tellin' where love may appear
Something in my heart keeps sayin'
My someplace is here
#14) Martin, Dean: "Everybody Loves Somebody" (1964) [1] {n/c}
 
Once I realized that Jerry Lewis' ex-partner Dean Martin could come right after
him in this GOLQ, I took advantage of this situation and inserted him in here.
This is a song I really resented in the summer of 1964, when it came on the
radio when my friends and I were waiting to hear songs by the Beatles and other
British Invasion groups plus other rock and roll and soul artists. Now that I
am old enough to be retired and on Medicare, I appreciate it more.
 
I find it interesting that in 1964, the year of the British Invasion, a few
songs marketed to adults of my parents' generation managed to find their way to
#1. In addition to this one, "Hello, Dolly!" by Louis Armstrong and "Ringo" by
Lorne Greene hit the top spot, as did two songs by Bobby Vinton, who was
marketed to older teens and young adults.
 
I don't even know how to love you
Just the way you want me to
#15) Mason, Barbara: "Yes, I'm Ready" (1965) [5] {2}
 
I've never cared for this version of this song, preferring a remake by Teri
DeSario with K.C. that reached #2 in 1980.
 
Oh! I really think you're swell!
Uh huh! You really ring the bell!
#16) Mills, Hayley, and Hayley Mills: "Let's Get Together" (1961) [8] {-}
 
As with "The Hula Hoop Song," I used this one because I was curious about it.
Jessica Raine and Vito and the Salutations mentioned that this was from the
movie THE PARENT TRAP (the original version done in 1961, of course). Although
I have seen the original version of this movie multiple times, the song had not
stuck in my memory. Hayley Mills played the duo role of twins Sharon and Susan
who were separated at a young age, and she sings this song as both roles.
 
While the blossoms still cling to the vine
I'll taste your strawberries
I'll drink your sweet wine
#17) New Christy Minstrels, The: "Today" (1964) [17] {-}
 
I chose this song to go along with "Yesterday" and "Tomorrow." The three songs
even appear here in logical sequence, with
"Peter Smyth" <smythp@gmail.com>: Nov 23 12:56PM

Calvin wrote:
 
 
> 1 The three western-most islands of the Leeward Antilles, Aruba, Bonaire and Curacao, are commonly referred to by what nickname?
ABC
> 2 What are the names of Mars' TWO moons?
Phobos & Deimos
> 3 In which 1960 Federico Fellini film did Anita Ekberg cavort in the Trevi Fountain?
> 4 In the wireless phone abbreviation 4G, the G stands for which word?
Generation
> 5 Which fictional group has the motto "Tous pour un, un pour tous"?
The Three Musketeers
> 6 Before starring in 'Lost', Matthew Fox played a key role in what 1990s teen drama?
Party of Five
> 7 In which sport would one be most likely to see players attired in 'plus fours'?
Golf
> 8 Which 1871 novel was the sequel to 'Alice's Adventures in Wonderland'?
Alice Through the Looking Glass
> 9 Which meat is traditionally served with Eggs Benedict?
Ham/Bacon
> 10 By what name is the drug acetyl-salicylic acid (ASA) C9H8O4 better known?
Aspirin
 
Peter Smyth
Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com>: Nov 24 06:22AM


> 1 The three western-most islands of the Leeward Antilles, Aruba,
> Bonaire and Curacao, are commonly referred to by what nickname?
 
ABC Islands? If not, they bloody should be
 
> 2 What are the names of Mars' TWO moons?
 
Phobos & Deimos
 
> 3 In which 1960 Federico Fellini film did Anita Ekberg cavort in the
> Trevi Fountain?
 
La Dolce Vita
 
> 4 In the wireless phone abbreviation 4G, the G stands for which word?
 
Generation??
 
> 5 Which fictional group has the motto "Tous pour un, un pour tous"?
 
The Three Musketeers
 
> 6 Before starring in 'Lost', Matthew Fox played a key role in what
> 1990s teen drama?
 
Party of Five
 
> 7 In which sport would one be most likely to see players attired in
> 'plus fours'?
 
Golf
 
> 8 Which 1871 novel was the sequel to 'Alice's Adventures in
> Wonderland'?
 
Through The Looking Glass (and what Alice found there)
 
> 9 Which meat is traditionally served with Eggs Benedict?
 
Gammon?
 
> 10 By what name is the drug acetyl-salicylic acid (ASA) C9H8O4 better
> known?
 
Aspirin
Jason Kreitzer <jk71875@gmail.com>: Nov 23 10:08AM -0800

On Tuesday, November 21, 2017 at 6:41:33 PM UTC-5, Mark Brader wrote:
 
> F1. Bobcaygeon is located in central-east Ontario on a short
> river of the same name, which forms a part of what major
> waterway?
St. Lawrence Seaway?
Erland Sommarskog <esquel@sommarskog.se>: Nov 23 09:43PM +0100

> 1. Each row in the periodic table is grouped based on its highest
> unexcited electron energy level, similar to an orbit around
> the nucleus. What is the term used for each row?
 
"skal" is the word we use in Swedish. What might you use in English?
"layer"?

> 2. Elements in each column in the periodic table share the same
> number of valence electrons, which governs their bonding
> behavior. What is the name for a column?
 
Group

> 3. The number in the top left of the each element's box indicates
> the number of protons that are found in the element's nucleus.
> What is this called?
 
Atom number
 
> 4. The number just below each element's abbreviation is called
> its atomic mass. What is the simple approximation to estimate
> the atomic mass in whole numbers?
 
The number of nucleons in the most stable isotope.

> Fcrpvsvpnyyl, znal ryrzragf pna rkvfg va zhygvcyr sbezf jvgu
> qvssrerag ahzoref bs arhgebaf. Jung ner gurfr qvssrerag sbezf
> bs na ryrzrag pbyyrpgviryl pnyyrq?
 
Isotope
 
> horizontally in the table, this value generally increases toward
> the top or the right side. What is this chemical characteristic
> known as?
 
Oxidation

> attracted electron. This also generally increases toward the
> top or the right side of the table. What is the term for this
> amount of energy?
 
Redoxidation

> instead having full electron orbital shells. Because of this
> they are incredibly unreactive, almost always existing in
> monatomic states. What is the modern name for these elements?
 
Noble gases

> form a cation ["CAT-eye-on"]. They are known to react violently
> with water, but form weaker bonds with metallic elements.
> What are these elements known as?
 
Alkalic metals

> conduct electricity well. Collectively they are sometimes
> known as semimetals, but what is the other name for them,
> used in chemistry?
 
Semiconductor

> middle ear. They are known individually as the hammer,
> the anvil, and the stirrup -- but what is the collective
> name for this group of bones? (No, don't try "ear bones".)
 
OK, I will not try "ear bones".

> and the vessel being overloaded, it is believed over 4,000
> people died in the incident. What national capital city
> was the ferry headed towards?
 
Manila

 
 
--
Erland Sommarskog, Stockholm, esquel@sommarskog.se
gwowen@gmail.com: Nov 23 07:01AM -0800

On Thursday, November 23, 2017 at 12:35:29 AM UTC, Calvin wrote:
> On Thursday, November 16, 2017 at 8:48:41 AM UTC+10, Calvin wrote:
 
> > 1 In mathematics, what is the value of the imaginary number "i"?
 
> Square root of -1
 
Well, sure, that's the most common of its many many definitions, and obviously what you were after but ... :)
 
FWIW: I deliberately chose a mostly-correct answer that can be happily marked wrong as being too ambiguous for fairly-technical reasons. But for those same reasons, sqrt(-1) is *slightly* ambiguous too, just like sqrt(25) is.
 
TLDR: I don't want the point
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