Friday, June 16, 2017

Digest for rec.games.trivia@googlegroups.com - 10 updates in 3 topics

swp <stephen.w.perry@gmail.com>: Jun 15 04:25PM -0700

On Thursday, June 8, 2017 at 8:58:06 PM UTC-4, swp wrote:
> this is rotating quiz #259. today is june 8th, 2017. yesterday, I lost someone. her name was Diana. she was pretty, smart, and loved music. this round is dedicated to her.
 
thank you for the kind words and laughter, much appreciated
 
> answer slates must be posted before 9pm edt (philadelphia/toronto time) on wednesday, 2017-06-14, which gives all of you a lot of time from the time of this posting.
 
at this point I don't think anyone is surprised when I am late. up first, the expected answers.
 
category: diana
 
in each case, unambiguously name the person described.
 
a. the one that died in paris at the end of august in 1997
 
Diana, Princess of Wales
 
b. to the romans, diana was the goddess of the hunt, the moon, and nature. name her greek equivalent.
 
Artemis
 
c. lead singer of the vocal group 'the supremes'
 
Diana Ross
 
d. emma peel in the 1960s tv series 'the avengers' and olenna tyrell in 'game of thrones'
 
Diana Rigg
 
 
category: it's the singer
 
again, unambiguously name the singer described
 
e. died on november 24th, 1991. 4 octave vocal range. one of the greatest showmen of all time.
 
Freddie Mercury, aka Farrokh Bulsara (lead singer of queen)
 
f. the chairman of the board
 
Frank Sinatra
 
g. performed "the star spangled banner" at super bowl xxv at tampa stadium on january 27, 1991. they played a previously recorded version by her and didn't tell her she had a dead microphone when she sang live, ostensibly due to crowd noise
 
Whitney Houston
 
h. she sang with boyz ii men on "one sweet day"
 
Mariah Carey
 
 
category: the song
 
from the given lyrics, name the song. (note: I am using copy & paste for these)
 
i. Oh don't you dare look back
Just keep your eyes on me
I said you're holding back
She said ...
 
'shut up and dance' by walk the moon
 
j. I'm burnin' through the sky yeah
Two hundred degrees
That's why they call me Mister Fahrenheit
I'm trav'ling at the speed of light
I wanna make a supersonic man out of you
 
'don't stop me now' by queen
 
k. If you need me, let me know, gonna be around
If you've got no place to go, if you're feeling down
If you're all alone when the pretty birds have flown
Honey I'm still free
 
'take a chance on me' by abba
 
l. Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose.
Nothing ain't nothing, but it's free.
 
'me and bobby mcgee' by janis joplin
 
 
category: the band (note: I am using copy & paste for these also)
 
from the given lyrics, name the band/artist
 
m. We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl
 
pink floyd, from 'wish you were here'
 
n. If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.
 
rush, from 'freewill'
 
o. How many roads must a man walk down
Before you call him a man
How many seas must a white dove sail
Before she sleeps in the sand
Yes, 'n' how many times must the cannon balls fly
Before they're forever banned
The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind
 
bob dylan, from "blowin' in the wind"

p. I pulled into Nazareth, was feeling 'bout half past dead
I just need some place where I can lay my head
Hey, mister, can you tell me, where a man might find a bed?
He just grinned and shook my hand, "No" was all he said
 
the band, 'the weight'
 
and now to tally up the scores.
 
name a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p total
---------- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -----
Mark B 1 1 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 6
Dan B 1 1 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 8
Marc D 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 1 7
Dan T 1 1 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 7
Erland 1 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 0 6
Peter S 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 8
Gareth 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 14
Calvin 1 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 1 0 7
Chris 1 1 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 7
---------- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -----
totals 9 5 9 8 3 6 3 2 1 2 1 5 3 2 9 2 70
 
the winner by a large margin is Gareth! you obviously have great taste in music. well done young man. you may now set RQ260 in a manner that is pleasing to you.
 
swp, who has spent too much time in hospitals recently
msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Jun 15 08:11PM -0500

Stephen Perry:
> name a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p total
> ---------- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -----
> Mark B 1 1 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 6
 
No, I said Peter, Paul, and Mary. If this is the only scoring error,
that correctly leaves me in last place#. I'm not surprised, but I am
annoyed that I missed ABBA.
 
#- Is it so much trouble to sort by score?
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msb@vex.net | is the surprises." -- Tim Baker
 
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swp <stephen.w.perry@gmail.com>: Jun 15 08:22PM -0700

On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 9:11:38 PM UTC-4, Mark Brader wrote:
> > ---------- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -----
> > Mark B 1 1 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 6
 
> No, I said Peter, Paul, and Mary. If this is the only scoring error,
 
they did a cover of it, and I failed to ask for the original artist. I may as well have put the lyrics to 'happy birthday' in this category. at least no one gave the k-pop covers.
 
> that correctly leaves me in last place#. I'm not surprised, but I am
> annoyed that I missed ABBA.
 
I was very surprised at how few people got k, but not at who did.
 
> #- Is it so much trouble to sort by score?
 
no, but why would we want to do that? sorting by date of entry allows me to visually see that tie-breaker more easily. but that's just me.
 
> Mark Brader, Toronto | "One thing that surprises you about this business
> msb@vex.net | is the surprises." -- Tim Baker
 
> My text in this article is in the public domain.
 
swp
msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Jun 16 02:02AM -0500

Mark Brader:
> > No, I said Peter, Paul, and Mary...

Stephen Perry:
> they did a cover of it, and I failed to ask for the original artist.
 
Oh. You might have mentioned that. I was just guessing who might have
done it.
 
 
> > #- Is it so much trouble to sort by score?
 
> no, but why would we want to do that?
 
Because that's how standings are shown. Gareth deserves his name to be
at the top of the table, not me.
 
> sorting by date of entry allows me to visually see that tie-breaker
> more easily.
 
Well, you could always sort by date within score. Or produce both
versions for your own use; you don't need to post both.
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Toronto | the kind, where you intend to put something simple
msb@vex.net | like "while (1=0) {" and type "while (1=1) {" instead.
--Stephen Perry
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Erland Sommarskog <esquel@sommarskog.se>: Jun 16 07:07AM

> Because that's how standings are shown. Gareth deserves his name to be
> at the top of the table, not me.
 
Well, don't be so quick to post your answers then! :-)
 
 
--
Erland Sommarskog, Stockholm, esquel@sommarskog.se
msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Jun 15 09:55PM -0500

These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2017-02-13,
and should be interpreted accordingly.
 
On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
Please post all your answers to the newsgroup in a single followup,
based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
the correct answers in about 3 days.
 
All questions were written by members of 5 Easy Pieces and are
used here by permission, but have been reformatted and may have
been retyped and/or edited by me. For further information see
my 2016-11-26 companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian
Inquisition (QFTCI*)".
 
 
* Game 5, Round 4 - Sports - High-Income Athletes
 
This round has to do with the salaries and total income earned
by athletes past and present. In each case, name the athlete.
(I presume all the dollar amounts mentioned in this round are in
US dollars, but I have not checked sources.)
 
1. Forbes magazine, which publishes an annual list of athletes'
total income, named this athlete as the top earner in 2005,
with $87,000,000. He was 30 years old that year. Later he
encountered marital difficulties brought on by his infidelities.
 
2. Tied for #9 in 2005, with total earnings of $28,000,000, this
athlete's reputation is now in tatters. He was once romantically
involved with singer Sheryl Crow.
 
3. The top earner in 2016 grossed $88,000,000. He is one of the
world's best soccer players, although not the best-liked.
 
4. #8 on the 2016 list is a veteran US golfer. Nearly all of his
$53,000,000 earnings came from endorsements. Popular among
older, conservative golf fans, his nickname is "Lefty".
 
5. He was considered sport's first "million-dollar man" in 1972.
This former hockey star has had his share of domestic and
alcohol-related issues over the years. First and last name
required.
 
6. This star pitcher was the first free agent in baseball, as a
result of a 1974 arbitrator's decision; he signed with the New
York Yankees. He died in 1999 from ALS or Lou Gehrig's disease.
He was better known by his nickname than his given name, Jim.
last name?
 
7. With a total of $42,000,000, Wayne Gretzky isn't even in the
top 100 of NHL players in career salary earnings. #1 on that
list, who debuted in the NHL in the 1990-91 season, has been
paid over $120,000,000 in career salary and is still playing
in the NHL.
 
8. Not especially well liked, he is still the richest boxer of
all time. He's earned an estimated $700,000,000 in his career
and his nickname is "Money".
 
9. She was banned for more than a year from professional tennis
for testing positive for meldonium, but earned $22,000,000 in
2015, mostly from endorsements.
 
10. Tiger Woods still earned $45,000,000 in 2015, mostly from
endorsements. Just ahead of him on the Forbes list that year
was this British world champion Formula One driver. Name him.
 
 
* Game 5, Round 6 - Entertainment - Return of the Polish Movie Posters
 
Please see the handout of Polish movie posters at:
 
http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/G5R6/polish.jpg
 
I've rearranged the handout so that the question numbers are
the image numbers. In each case you'll be told you the year the
movie was released, and you just have to give the title -- yes,
in English!
 
1. From 1959.
2. From 1942.
3. From 1986.
4. From 1980.
5. From 1953.
6. From 1961.
7. From 1977.
8. From 1973.
9. From 1980.
10. From 1981.
 
And there were 8 decoys; answer these if you like for fun, but
for no points.
 
11. From 1988.
12. From 1951.
13. From 1979.
14. From 1961.
15. From 1986.
16. From 1976.
17. From 1984.
18. From 1980.
 
--
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Toronto I only have keyboard feel.
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Joshua Kreitzer <gromit82@hotmail.com>: Jun 16 03:45AM

msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote in news:cLmdnZLoiKkw1d7EnZ2dnUU7-
> total income, named this athlete as the top earner in 2005,
> with $87,000,000. He was 30 years old that year. Later he
> encountered marital difficulties brought on by his infidelities.
 
Tiger Woods

> 2. Tied for #9 in 2005, with total earnings of $28,000,000, this
> athlete's reputation is now in tatters. He was once romantically
> involved with singer Sheryl Crow.
 
Lance Armstrong
 
> 3. The top earner in 2016 grossed $88,000,000. He is one of the
> world's best soccer players, although not the best-liked.
 
Lionel Messi; Cristiano Ronaldo (?)
 
> 4. #8 on the 2016 list is a veteran US golfer. Nearly all of his
> $53,000,000 earnings came from endorsements. Popular among
> older, conservative golf fans, his nickname is "Lefty".
 
Phil Mickelson

> York Yankees. He died in 1999 from ALS or Lou Gehrig's disease.
> He was better known by his nickname than his given name, Jim.
> last name?
 
Hunter
 
> 8. Not especially well liked, he is still the richest boxer of
> all time. He's earned an estimated $700,000,000 in his career
> and his nickname is "Money".
 
Floyd Mayweather Jr.
 
> 9. She was banned for more than a year from professional tennis
> for testing positive for meldonium, but earned $22,000,000 in
> 2015, mostly from endorsements.
 
Sharapova (?)
 
> 10. Tiger Woods still earned $45,000,000 in 2015, mostly from
> endorsements. Just ahead of him on the Forbes list that year
> was this British world champion Formula One driver. Name him.
 
Lewis Hamilton

> movie was released, and you just have to give the title -- yes,
> in English!
 
> 1. From 1959.
 
"Some Like It Hot"
 
> 2. From 1942.
 
"Casablanca"
 
> 3. From 1986.
 
"The Fly"
 
> 4. From 1980.
 
"Airplane!"
 
> 5. From 1953.
 
"Roman Holiday"
 
> 6. From 1961.
 
"West Side Story"
 
> 7. From 1977.
 
"Star Wars"
 
> 8. From 1973.
 
"Westworld"
 
> 9. From 1980.
 
"The Shining"
 
> 10. From 1981.
 
"Raiders of the Lost Ark"
 
> And there were 8 decoys; answer these if you like for fun, but
> for no points.
 
> 11. From 1988.
 
"Short Circuit 2"
 
> 12. From 1951.
 
"Strangers on a Train"
 
> 13. From 1979.
 
"Alien"
 
> 14. From 1961.
 
"Breakfast at Tiffany's"
 
> 15. From 1986.
 
"Blue Velvet"
 
> 16. From 1976.
 
"Taxi Driver"
 
> 17. From 1984.
 
"Gremlins"
 
> 18. From 1980.
 
"Raging Bull"
 
--
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swp <stephen.w.perry@gmail.com>: Jun 15 08:57PM -0700

On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 10:55:46 PM UTC-4, Mark Brader wrote:
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2017-02-13,
> and should be interpreted accordingly.
 
noted. I should be catching up on sleep. but sometimes you just can't.
 
> total income, named this athlete as the top earner in 2005,
> with $87,000,000. He was 30 years old that year. Later he
> encountered marital difficulties brought on by his infidelities.
 
tiger woods
 
> 2. Tied for #9 in 2005, with total earnings of $28,000,000, this
> athlete's reputation is now in tatters. He was once romantically
> involved with singer Sheryl Crow.
 
lance armstrong
 
> 3. The top earner in 2016 grossed $88,000,000. He is one of the
> world's best soccer players, although not the best-liked.
 
c. ronaldo
 
> 4. #8 on the 2016 list is a veteran US golfer. Nearly all of his
> $53,000,000 earnings came from endorsements. Popular among
> older, conservative golf fans, his nickname is "Lefty".
 
phil mickelson
 
> This former hockey star has had his share of domestic and
> alcohol-related issues over the years. First and last name
> required.
 
bobby hull
 
> York Yankees. He died in 1999 from ALS or Lou Gehrig's disease.
> He was better known by his nickname than his given name, Jim.
> last name?
 
catfish hunter
 
> list, who debuted in the NHL in the 1990-91 season, has been
> paid over $120,000,000 in career salary and is still playing
> in the NHL.
 
jaromir jagr
 
> 8. Not especially well liked, he is still the richest boxer of
> all time. He's earned an estimated $700,000,000 in his career
> and his nickname is "Money".
 
floyd mayweather
 
> 9. She was banned for more than a year from professional tennis
> for testing positive for meldonium, but earned $22,000,000 in
> 2015, mostly from endorsements.
 
maria sharapova
 
> 10. Tiger Woods still earned $45,000,000 in 2015, mostly from
> endorsements. Just ahead of him on the Forbes list that year
> was this British world champion Formula One driver. Name him.
 
hamilton?
 
> movie was released, and you just have to give the title -- yes,
> in English!
 
> 1. From 1959.
 
some like it hot
 
> 2. From 1942.
 
casablanca
 
> 3. From 1986.
 
alan quartermain and the lost city of gold
 
> 4. From 1980.
 
airplane
 
> 5. From 1953.
 
roman holiday
 
> 6. From 1961.
 
west side story
 
> 7. From 1977.
 
star wars
 
> 8. From 1973.
 
westworld
 
> 9. From 1980.
 
the shining
 
> 10. From 1981.
 
raiders of the lost ark
 
 
> And there were 8 decoys; answer these if you like for fun, but
> for no points.
 
> 11. From 1988.
 
short circuit 2
 
> 12. From 1951.
 
strangers on a train
 
> 13. From 1979.
 
apocalypse now
 
> 14. From 1961.
 
breakfast at tiffany's
 
> 15. From 1986.
 
blue velvet
 
> 16. From 1976.
 
taxi driver
 
> 17. From 1984.
 
gremlins
 
> 18. From 1980.
 
raging bull
 
 
 
swp, "every now and then, just, you know, occasionally, it's good to remind people." (quizzical looks staring back at me) "that giants still walk the earth."
Calvin <334152@gmail.com>: Jun 15 10:48PM -0700

On Friday, June 16, 2017 at 12:55:46 PM UTC+10, Mark Brader wrote:
 
> total income, named this athlete as the top earner in 2005,
> with $87,000,000. He was 30 years old that year. Later he
> encountered marital difficulties brought on by his infidelities.
 
Rodriguez, Woods
 
> 2. Tied for #9 in 2005, with total earnings of $28,000,000, this
> athlete's reputation is now in tatters. He was once romantically
> involved with singer Sheryl Crow.
 
Armstrong
 
> 3. The top earner in 2016 grossed $88,000,000. He is one of the
> world's best soccer players, although not the best-liked.
 
Messi, Ronaldo

> 4. #8 on the 2016 list is a veteran US golfer. Nearly all of his
> $53,000,000 earnings came from endorsements. Popular among
> older, conservative golf fans, his nickname is "Lefty".
 
Mickelson
 
> This former hockey star has had his share of domestic and
> alcohol-related issues over the years. First and last name
> required.
 
Bobby Orr, Gordie Howe
 
> York Yankees. He died in 1999 from ALS or Lou Gehrig's disease.
> He was better known by his nickname than his given name, Jim.
> last name?
 
Johnson, Koufax
 
 
> 8. Not especially well liked, he is still the richest boxer of
> all time. He's earned an estimated $700,000,000 in his career
> and his nickname is "Money".
 
Mayweather
 
> 9. She was banned for more than a year from professional tennis
> for testing positive for meldonium, but earned $22,000,000 in
> 2015, mostly from endorsements.
 
Sharapova

> 10. Tiger Woods still earned $45,000,000 in 2015, mostly from
> endorsements. Just ahead of him on the Forbes list that year
> was this British world champion Formula One driver. Name him.
 
Hamilton, Button
 
 
> movie was released, and you just have to give the title -- yes,
> in English!
 
> 1. From 1959.
 
Some Like It Hot
 
> 2. From 1942.
 
Casablanca
 
> 3. From 1986.
 
The Metamorphosis
 
> 4. From 1980.
 
Flying High
 
> 5. From 1953.
 
Roman Holiday
 
> 6. From 1961.
 
Cabaret, A Chorus Line
 
> 7. From 1977.
 
Star Wars
 
> 8. From 1973.
 
Westworld?
 
> 9. From 1980.
 
The Shining, Friday the 13th?
 
> 10. From 1981.
 
Raiders of the Lost Ark
 
 
> for no points.
 
> 11. From 1988.
> 12. From 1951.
 
The Man Who Knew Too Much
 
> 13. From 1979.
 
Apocalypse Now
 
> 14. From 1961.
 
Breakfast at Tiffany's
 
> 16. From 1976.
> 17. From 1984.
> 18. From 1980.
 
Raging Bull
 
cheers,
calvin
msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Jun 15 09:52PM -0500

Mark Brader:
> movie "I Miss You, Hugs and Kisses", starring Elke Sommer.
> Convicted later of trying to arrange two other murder plots,
> the client is still in prison. Who is he?
 
Peter Demeter.
 
> 2. In the late 1990s, Greenspan represented a downtown-Toronto gay
> strip bar charged with indecency because of dancers masturbating
> onstage. Name the bar.
 
Remington's.
 
> 3. In 1986 Greenspan took time away from his law practice to tour
> the country and give speeches about a divisive issue. What was
> the issue?
 
Capital punishment. He was against reinstating it -- and the
following year, in a free vote, the House of Commons agreed.
 
> 4. In the early 1990s, Greenspan narrated a CBC-TV docudrama
> re-creating some of the country's most famous criminal cases.
> What was the name of this Gemini-Award-winning show?
 
"Scales of Justice".
 
> cabinet minister Marc Lalonde; The other was a Conservative
> politician whose son went on to serve in Stephen Harper's
> cabinet. Give the surname the two Conservative politicians.
 
MacKay. (Father Elmer, son Peter.)
 
> trial in 1998 in which a jury acquitted his client of all
> charges over crimes alleged to have occurred in 1956 and 1969.
> The client was a former premier of Nova Scotia. Who was he?
 
Gerald Regan ("REE-gun").
 
> 7. <answer 6>'s defense team included a young associate of
> Greenspan, who nearly 20 years later is arguably the most
> famous criminal defense lawyer in Canada. Who?
 
Marie Henein.
 
> 8. This man's past clients have included Alan Eagleson, Naomi
> Campbell, and Justin Bieber. He is Eddie's brother, and to many,
> the best lawyer in the family. What is his first name?
 
Brian.
 
> founders of the defunct theater company Livent Inc. The
> defendants were convicted of fraud and were ultimately sent
> to jail. Name either defendant.
 
Garth Drabinsky, Myron Gottlieb. 4 for Joshua.
 
> 10. Eddie Greenspan's 1988 autobiography was co-authored by
> George Jonas. Jonas's second wife went on to marry Conrad Black.
> Name her.
 
Barbara Amiel, who thus became Lady Black of Crossharbour. Not
exactly the intended point of the question, but I'm accepting it.
4 for Peter.
 
 
> through many transformations over the years. In 1998 the
> club was acknowledged in the Tragically Hip song "Bobcaygeon".
> Name the venue.
 
Horseshoe Tavern.
 
> Blondie and the Ramones in the 1980s. It was purchased in 2014
> by Michael Wekerle and is currently undergoing renovations.
> Name the club.
 
El Mocambo.
 
> Amy Winehouse. In April 2013, Jazz Bistro opened its doors at
> the same address and today features live jazz performances and
> a bistro-style menu. Name the former jazz club.
 
Top o' the Senator (at the Senator Restaurant, which still exists).
 
> from Muddy Waters, Eubie Blake, and Etta James, as well as a
> famous surprise jam with Albert Collins, Stevie Ray Vaughan,
> and Jeff Healey. Name the club.
 
Albert's Hall (at the Brunswick House, which closed in 2016).
 
 
> "Wayne's World" as "an excellent heavy metal bar! And always a
> babefest!" The party came to an end on 1993-01-09. Name the
> bar.
 
Gasworks.
 
> The Cramps, and strangely, R.E.M. For many ex-patrons, its
> presence still haunts one corner of Allan Gardens. Name the
> club.
 
Larry's Hideaway.
 
> to the deepest edge of downtown, welcoming legends such as the
> Ramones and Beastie Boys, and transforming resident DJ Chris
> Sheppard into somewhat of a superstar. Name the club.
 
RPM.
 
> release party for Toronto indie band Parachute Club's self-titled
> debut album. Skyrocketing rents spelled the end of the party
> on 2000-10-31. Name the club.
 
Bam Boo.
 
> to The Cult to the Beastie Boys. For a time, the club's Sunday
> alternative night, DJed by CFNY's Chris Sheppard, was the place
> to be and be seen in Yorkville. Name the club.
 
Copa.
 
> Originally known as the Occident Hall, it was built in 1876
> for the Toronto Masons. It operated as a club and music venue
> between 1986 and 2010 under which name?
 
Big Bop.
 
 
So Round 3 never happened, and the scores, if there are no errors, are:
 
GAME 5 ROUNDS-> 2
TOPICS-> Can
Peter Smyth 4
Joshua Kreitzer 4
Marc Dashevsky 0
"Calvin" 0
Jason Kreitzer 0
 
The final scores for Game 5 will now be the best 5 out of 7.
 
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