Monday, May 22, 2017

Digest for rec.games.trivia@googlegroups.com - 11 updates in 3 topics

msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): May 21 06:47PM -0500

Sorry, I'm a bit slow posting this.
 
Mark Brader:
> Nothing fancy here, just 10 questions, 2 each in 5 categories.
> 1 point each. In case of a tie...
 
No tiebreakers needed: DAN BLUM has won this contest outright.
Hearty congratulations!
 
 
 
> 1. This is Rotating Quiz 256. List *all* the ways to express the
> number 256 as an integer raised to an integer power. (Please use
> the ^ notation, e.g. 81 is 3^4, meaning 3 to the 4th power.)
 
There are seven: (ą2)^8, (ą4)^4, (ą16)^2, 256^1. 1 for Dan Blum.
 
Confession: when I asked the question, I'd forgotten that answers
where the base of exponentiation is negative were possible. But you
all should have known it, too. Dan Blum was the only one to show
that he did.
 
> 2. Give the metric equivalent value of the "horsepower" unit
> traditionally used in English-speaking countries. Answers must
> be accurate to 3 significant digits.
 
745.6999 W. 1 for Dan Tilque.
 
 
 
> 3. According to a verse in "The Lord of the Rings", a part of
> which is concealed on the One Ring that the story focuses on,
> how many rings of power did Sauron create altogether?
 
See below. 1 for Dan Blum, Marc, Peter, Dan Tilque, and Gareth.
 
Worse confession: Posting in a hurry after my unexpected win on the
previous RQ, I wrote this question without bothering to go downstairs
and look at the verse in its original context in the book. The verse
*mentions* 20 rings (9 for "mortal men", 7 for "dwarf-lords", 3 for
"elven-kings", and one for himself). But as Dan Tilque was the first
to point out, it *does not say* who created them. And while Sauron
was *responsible* for their creation, the only one he created
personally was the one for himself. I have decided to accept either
the answer 20, or 1, or any answer indicating some knowledge of the
above facts of the story.
 
> 4. "The Power Broker" is a biography by Robert Caro, about which
> highly influential New Yorker?
 
Robert Moses. 1 for Dan Blum.
 
 
> -- as the last sentence of each of the 13th, 15th, 19th, 23rd,
> 24th, and 26th Amendments. What does it say? (Answers must
> be close, but not necessarily exact.)
 
(The) Congress shall have (the) power to enforce this article by
appropriate legislation. 1 for Gareth (barely).
 
> 6. In British politics, what term is used for the transfer of
> powers from the UK government to lower level of government?
 
Devolution. 1 for Dan Blum, Peter, Calvin, and Dan Tilque.
 
 
> * Sports
 
> 7. Which Australian city (or other place) has a football team
> known as the Power?
 
Port Adelaide.
 
Yes, that's part of greater Adelaide, but that's why I said "or other
place". The team specifically identifies itself with Port Adelaide.
So no point for Adelaide.
 
> goals on power plays -- a record that still stands. He played
> with Buffalo for 10 seasons, then Toronto, then New Jersey and
> other teams. Name him.
 
Dave Andreychuk.
 
 
> and hold the world hostage for how much money? And then, when
> advised that a larger amount might be better, how much does he
> decide to change his demand to? Give both numbers.
 
$1,000,000; $100,000,000,000.
 
> 10. In which movie, based on a David Baldacci novel, does Clint
> Eastwood play Luther Whitney, a thief who witnesses the US
> president committing a crime?
 
"Absolute Power".
 
And of course the not-very-hidden theme, inspired by the contest
number, was "power".
 
 
Scores, if there are no errors:
 
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 TOTALS
 
Dan Blum 1 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 4
Dan Tilque 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 3
Gareth Owen 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 2
Peter Smyth 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 2
"Calvin" 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1
Marc Dashevsky 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1
 
1 1 5 1 1 4 0 0 0 0
 
Dan Blum, please start Rotating Quiz #257 at your earleist convenience.
--
Mark Brader | "Nothing is more sacrosanct than our professional ethics.
Toronto | Fortunately, I know a trick to get around them."
msb@vex.net | --Niles Crane, "Frasier" (Ranberg & Flett-Giordano)
 
My text in this article is in the public domain.
Calvin <334152@gmail.com>: May 21 05:01PM -0700

On Monday, May 22, 2017 at 9:47:10 AM UTC+10, Mark Brader wrote:
 
 
> Yes, that's part of greater Adelaide, but that's why I said "or other
> place". The team specifically identifies itself with Port Adelaide.
> So no point for Adelaide.
 
Doesn't the "or" imply there are (at least) two acceptable answers?
 
cheers,
calvin
msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): May 21 08:35PM -0500

Mark Brader:
>>> 7. Which Australian city (or other place) has a football team
>>> known as the Power?
 
"Calvin":
> Doesn't the "or" imply there are (at least) two acceptable answers?
 
No, it allows for there being teams not named after cities. For
example, the Saskatchewan Roughriders.
--
Mark Brader | "Europe contains a great many cathedrals, which were
Toronto | caused by the Middle Ages, which means they are very old,
msb@vex.net | so you have to take color slide photographs of them."
| -- Dave Barry
gwowen@gmail.com: May 22 01:36AM -0700

On Monday, May 22, 2017 at 12:47:10 AM UTC+1, Mark Brader wrote:
 
> > 6. In British politics, what term is used for the transfer of
> > powers from the UK government to lower level of government?
 
> Devolution. 1 for Dan Blum, Peter, Calvin, and Dan Tilque.
 
Appeal! Devolution tends to be used for specifics to the Scottish, Welsh, Irish and London Assemblies - though its sometimes used more generally. (I'm not saying its wrong in this context).
 
Derogation of powers from central government to lower levels was known as subsidiarity before those assemblies existed. (It was such a big issue in the late-80s and early-90s that John Major got it codified in the EU's Maastricht Treaty - it was a UK thing before it became an EU thing).
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-29924803
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/subsidiarity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subsidiarity
msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): May 22 04:19AM -0500

Mark Brader:
> > > 6. In British politics, what term is used for the transfer of
> > > powers from the UK government to lower level of government?
 
> > Devolution. 1 for Dan Blum, Peter, Calvin, and Dan Tilque.

Gareth Owen:
> Appeal! Devolution tends to be used for specifics to the Scottish,
> Welsh, Irish and London Assemblies - though its sometimes used more
> generally. (I'm not saying its wrong in this context).
 
I've certainly seen it used more generally.

> Derogation of powers from central government to lower levels was known
> as subsidiarity before those assemblies existed..
 
Never heard of it before. However, a dictionary check -- and also the
pages linked -- show that it refers, not to the actual transfer of powers
that I described, but to the principle that they *should* be transferred
whenever possible. Close, but not the same thing.
--
Mark Brader | "Red lights are not my concern.
Toronto | I am a driver, not a policeman."
msb@vex.net | --statement made after collision, 1853
 
My text in this article is in the public domain.
Calvin <334152@gmail.com>: May 21 03:33PM -0700

On Friday, May 19, 2017 at 3:39:33 PM UTC+10, Gareth Owen wrote:
 
> > Plutus
 
> Deducible from "Plutocracy", but a nice tempting wrong answer ...
 
> Good question
 
If no-one gets it right then I consider it a poor question. In retrospect it would have worked better in reverse.
 
cheers,
calvin
msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): May 21 06:54PM -0500

"Calvin":
>>>> 8 Who was the Greek god wealth?
 
>>> Plutus
 
Gareth Owen:
>> Deducible from "Plutocracy", but a nice tempting wrong answer ...
 
>> Good question

"Calvin":
> If no-one gets it right then I consider it a poor question.
 
Well, as Gareth said, it was deducible. Only you first had to have
*heard* of that god, which I don't believe I had.
 
Looking it up afterwards, I saw where Wikipedia said that Plutus and
Pluto are "often conflated", and I wondered if there might be an
appeal there; but web sites written by people who appear to know what
they're talking about make it clear that if this happens it's only
by mistake, like in my case.
 
> In retrospect it would have worked better in reverse.
 
Well, if the question was "Htlaew dog keerG eht saw ohw?" then I'd
still say Pluto, because he was a dog! So *there*! :-)
 
--
Mark Brader | "I do have an idea ... based on the quite obvious fact
Toronto | that the number two is ridiculous and can't exist."
msb@vex.net | -- Ben Denison (Isaac Asimov, "The Gods Themselves")
 
My text in this article is in the public domain.
Calvin <334152@gmail.com>: May 21 05:03PM -0700

On Monday, May 22, 2017 at 9:54:43 AM UTC+10, Mark Brader wrote:
 
> > In retrospect it would have worked better in reverse.
 
> Well, if the question was "Htlaew dog keerG eht saw ohw?" then I'd
> still say Pluto, because he was a dog!
 
Partial credit.
 
cheers,
calvin
Calvin <334152@gmail.com>: May 21 05:04PM -0700

On Monday, May 22, 2017 at 9:54:43 AM UTC+10, Mark Brader wrote:

> appeal there; but web sites written by people who appear to know what
> they're talking about make it clear that if this happens it's only
> by mistake, like in my case.
 
I checked that closely too!
 
cheers,
calvin
Joshua Kreitzer <gromit82@hotmail.com>: May 21 02:12PM

msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote in
 
> 7. In a normal adult human body, how many bones are in the legs
> and feet, excluding the sesamoid bones that vary from one person
> to another?
 
54 bones
 
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Joahua Kreitzer
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swp <stephen.w.perry@gmail.com>: May 21 02:44PM -0700

On Saturday, May 20, 2017 at 6:19:54 PM UTC-4, Mark Brader wrote:
 
> 7. In a normal adult human body, how many bones are in the legs
> and feet, excluding the sesamoid bones that vary from one person
> to another?
 
64 minus the sesamoid bones (kneecap, 2 at base of 1st metatarsel)
 
my my answer is 58
 
swp
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