| Marc Dashevsky <usenet@MarcDashevsky.com>: Apr 24 08:39AM -0500 In article <BMudndXVXN3HIGfFnZ2dnUU7-WHNnZ2d@giganews.com>, msb@vex.net says... > A3. After becoming a woman in 1976, she sued the US Tennis > Association for barring her from playing in the US Open > and Wimbledon. Name her. Renee Richards > in either order. Each name you give must be correct. > B1. Who directed "Lust, Caution" and "Crouching Tiger, Hidden > Dragon"? Ang Lee > Sumerians, Babylonians, Elamites, Akkadians, and Assyrians. > What other name, derived from ancient Akkadian, are these > step pyramids known by? ziggurat > D2. "If a son strike his father, they shall cut off his fingers." > This law is part of a code issued by a Babylonian king whose > name means "the kinsman is a healer." What is that name? Hammurabi > system used by all the great Mesopotamian civilizations for > the next 3,000 years. The name that we know this system by > derives from the Latin word for "wedge". What is that name? cuneiform > E1. New England clam chowder is typically made with a cream > or milk base. Manhattan clam chowder replaces the cream > with what ingredient? tomato > its thickening agent. There are three possible thickeners: > a browned roux ["roo"], sassafras leaves known as filé > ["FEE-lay"], and... which plant of the mallow family? okra > spicy and sour flavors. Ingredients usually include > lemongrass, kaffir lime leaves, galangal, lime juice, > fish sauce, and crushed chili peppers. Name it. tom ka > F2. If a Spanish-speaker says that he hopes he is not "molesting" > you, he probably isn't referring to sexual abuse. What does > the Spanish verb "molestar" {"mole-est-AR"] mean? bothering -- Replace "usenet" with "marc" in the e-mail address. |
| Bruce <bbowler@bigelow.org>: Apr 24 03:06PM On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 21:18:02 -0500, Mark Brader wrote: > A1. *He* was convicted for violating the US Espionage Act in > 2013 after disclosing sensitive material to WikiLeaks. *She* is > now serving 35 years. Name her. Chelsea Manning > A3. After becoming a woman in 1976, she sued the US Tennis > Association for barring her from playing in the US Open and > Wimbledon. Name her. Renee Richards > D2. "If a son strike his father, they shall cut off his fingers." > This law is part of a code issued by a Babylonian king whose name > means "the kinsman is a healer." What is that name? Hammurabi > system used by all the great Mesopotamian civilizations for the > next 3,000 years. The name that we know this system by derives > from the Latin word for "wedge". What is that name? cuneiform > E1. New England clam chowder is typically made with a cream > or milk base. Manhattan clam chowder replaces the cream with > what ingredient? Tomato > its thickening agent. There are three possible thickeners: a > browned roux ["roo"], sassafras leaves known as filé ["FEE-lay"], > and... which plant of the mallow family? Okra > Spanish verb "molestar" {"mole-est-AR"] mean? > F3. In English, a "bomber" drops bombs. In Spanish, what does a > "bombero" ["bom-BAIR-oh"] do? Firefighter |
| msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Apr 24 08:43PM -0500 Mark Brader: > and should be interpreted accordingly... For further information > see my 2016-11-26 companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian > Inquisition (QFTCI*)". Well, the Final game of the Mods' season is over, and the winner by a wide margin is JOSHUA KREITZER. Hearty congratulations, sir! We will now proceed directly into the following season, set by 5 Easy Pieces, whose current-events rounds you have already seen. > ** Final, Round 10 - Challenge Round > Challenge: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-10/chal.jpg This was the easiest round in the original game. > A1. *He* was convicted for violating the US Espionage Act in > 2013 after disclosing sensitive material to WikiLeaks. > *She* is now serving 35 years. Name her. Chelsea Manning. 4 for Dan Blum, Joshua, Peter, Erland, Dan Tilque, Calvin, and Bruce. As Dan Tilque noted, after this question was written President Obama declared that the 35-year sentence was "very disproportionate" and commuted it to 7 years, of which a few weeks remain. > in 1974, but she's mostly known as an award-winning travel > writer of such titles as "Venice" (1960) and the "Pax > Britannica" trilogy. Name her. Jan Morris. 4 for Dan Blum and Joshua. > A3. After becoming a woman in 1976, she sued the US Tennis > Association for barring her from playing in the US Open > and Wimbledon. Name her. Renée Richards. 4 for Joshua, Peter, Jason, Dan Tilque, Marc, and Bruce. > * B. Chinese Movie Directors > You may answer with the surname alone, or given name and surname > in either order. Each name you give must be correct. Answers are shown with the surname last. > B1. Who directed "Lust, Caution" and "Crouching Tiger, Hidden > Dragon"? Ang Lee. 4 for Dan Blum, Joshua, Peter, Erland, Jason, Calvin, and Marc. > B2. Who directed "The Grandmaster" and "Chungking Express"? Kar-Wai Wong. 4 for Joshua. > B3. Who directed "Raise the Red Lantern" and "House of Flying > Daggers"? Yimou Zhang. 4 for Joshua. > * C. Kings of Sport > C1. Name the current Seattle Mariners pitcher whose nickname > is King. Felix Hernandez. 4 for Dan Tilque. > C2. Name the current New York Rangers goalie who is known as > the King. Henrik Lundqvist. 4 for Erland. > C3. Which golfer was known as the King? Arnold Palmer. 4 for Peter and Calvin. > Sumerians, Babylonians, Elamites, Akkadians, and Assyrians. > What other name, derived from ancient Akkadian, are these > step pyramids known by? Ziggurat. 4 for Dan Blum, Joshua, Peter, Jason, Dan Tilque, Calvin, and Marc. > D2. "If a son strike his father, they shall cut off his fingers." > This law is part of a code issued by a Babylonian king whose > name means "the kinsman is a healer." What is that name? Hammurabi. 4 for Dan Blum, Joshua, Peter, Jason, Dan Tilque, Calvin, Marc, and Bruce. > system used by all the great Mesopotamian civilizations for > the next 3,000 years. The name that we know this system by > derives from the Latin word for "wedge". What is that name? Cuneiform. 4 for Dan Blum, Joshua, Peter, Erland, Dan Tilque, Calvin, Marc, and Bruce. > E1. New England clam chowder is typically made with a cream > or milk base. Manhattan clam chowder replaces the cream > with what ingredient? Tomato. 4 for Dan Blum, Joshua, Dan Tilque, Marc, and Bruce. > its thickening agent. There are three possible thickeners: > a browned roux ["roo"], sassafras leaves known as filé > ["FEE-lay"], and... which plant of the mallow family? Okra. 4 for Dan Blum, Dan Tilque, Marc, and Bruce. > spicy and sour flavors. Ingredients usually include > lemongrass, kaffir lime leaves, galangal, lime juice, > fish sauce, and crushed chili peppers. Name it. Tom yum or tom kha (see below). 4 for Dan Blum and Marc. Tom yum was the expected answer, but I see that tom kha is a similar soup that meets most or all of the description, so it made sense to accept it. Apparently the main difference is that it uses coconut milk whereas tom yum has a clear base. > F1. We know what it means to be "embarrassed" in English. > What does it mean in Spanish to be "embarazada" > ["em-ba-ra-SA-da"]? Pregnant. 4 for Dan Blum, Joshua, Erland, and Jason. > F2. If a Spanish-speaker says that he hopes he is not "molesting" > you, he probably isn't referring to sexual abuse. What does > the Spanish verb "molestar" {"mole-est-AR"] mean? Bother or disturb. 4 for Dan Blum, Joshua, Jason, Dan Tilque, and Marc. > F3. In English, a "bomber" drops bombs. In Spanish, what does a > "bombero" ["bom-BAIR-oh"] do? Fights fires. (Think "pumper".) 4 for Joshua, Erland, Jason, and Bruce. Scores, if there are no errors: FINAL ROUNDS-> 2 3 4 6 7 8 9 10 BEST TOPICS-> His Lit Sci Geo Spo Ent Can Cha SIX Joshua Kreitzer 39 34 20 32 12 44 0 52 221 Bruce Bowler -- 32 60 28 -- 16 -- 28 164 Peter Smyth 32 -- 36 28 32 -- -- 28 156 Dan Tilque 28 16 48 16 8 4 12 36 156 Dan Blum 39 23 -- -- -- 28 8 44 142 Pete Gayde 6 28 -- 40 32 32 4 -- 142 Marc Dashevsky 20 20 -- 16 12 36 4 36 140 Erland Sommarskog 20 8 11 40 27 -- -- 24 130 Jason Kreitzer 12 12 4 -- -- 44 -- 28 100 "Calvin" 42 27 -- -- -- -- -- 24 93 Don Piven 28 -- 56 -- -- -- -- -- 84 Gareth Owen -- -- -- -- 40 -- 4 -- 44 -- Mark Brader | "One of the lessons of history is that nothing Toronto | is often a good thing to do and always a clever msb@vex.net | thing to say." -- Will Durant My text in this article is in the public domain. |
| Pete Gayde <pagrsg@wowway.com>: Apr 25 03:34AM msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote in news:BMudndXVXN3HIGfFnZ2dnUU7- > A1. *He* was convicted for violating the US Espionage Act in > 2013 after disclosing sensitive material to WikiLeaks. > *She* is now serving 35 years. Name her. Manning > A3. After becoming a woman in 1976, she sued the US Tennis > Association for barring her from playing in the US Open > and Wimbledon. Name her. Richards > * C. Kings of Sport > C1. Name the current Seattle Mariners pitcher whose nickname > is King. Felix Hernandez > C2. Name the current New York Rangers goalie who is known as > the King. > C3. Which golfer was known as the King? Arnold Palmer > D2. "If a son strike his father, they shall cut off his fingers." > This law is part of a code issued by a Babylonian king whose > name means "the kinsman is a healer." What is that name? Hammurabi > E1. New England clam chowder is typically made with a cream > or milk base. Manhattan clam chowder replaces the cream > with what ingredient? Tomato sauce > its thickening agent. There are three possible thickeners: > a browned roux ["roo"], sassafras leaves known as filé > ["FEE-lay"], and... which plant of the mallow family? Taro > the Spanish verb "molestar" {"mole-est-AR"] mean? > F3. In English, a "bomber" drops bombs. In Spanish, what does a > "bombero" ["bom-BAIR-oh"] do? Pete Gayde --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
| msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Apr 24 11:29PM -0500 If his answers had been posted on time, Pete Gayde would have scored 24 points on the challenge round for a final score of 162, placing 3rd. -- Mark Brader, Toronto | "Dystypsia." msb@vex.net | --Michael Wares gives the reason for a typo |
| Erland Sommarskog <esquel@sommarskog.se>: Apr 25 07:37AM >> What does it mean in Spanish to be "embarazada" >> ["em-ba-ra-SA-da"]? > Pregnant. 4 for Dan Blum, Joshua, Erland, and Jason. A small note after having looked in the dictionary. "embarazada" does not really qualify as a false friend, as it also can mean "embarrassed". Although, the male participants in this group should still be careful not to say "soy embarazada" to avoid embarrassing themselves further. They need to say "soy embarazado" and stick with the masculine form. -- Erland Sommarskog, Stockholm, esquel@sommarskog.se |
| msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Apr 25 03:13AM -0500 Erland Sommarskog: > A small note after having looked in the dictionary. "embarazada" does not > really qualify as a false friend, as it also can mean "embarrassed". I suspected as much, actually. -- Mark Brader, Toronto | "Strange commas are enshrined in msb@vex.net | the US Constitution." --James Hogg |
| msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Apr 24 08:49PM -0500 These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2017-01-16, and should be interpreted accordingly. On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty. Please post all your answers to the newsgroup in a single followup, based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal the correct answers in about 3 days. All questions were written by members of 5 Easy Pieces and are used here by permission, but have been reformatted and may have been retyped and/or edited by me. For further information see my 2016-11-26 companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian Inquisition (QFTCI*)". * Game 1, Round 2 - History - Near-Assassinations Most of us likely recall the attempted assassination of Ronald Reagan in 1981, shortly after his inauguration as President of the United States. Here are some other near-assassinations. 1. In 1978 a white-supremacist serial killer came very close to killing this magazine publisher, who ended up being paralyzed from the waist down. Who was the publisher? 2. In 1972 it went the other way: it was the white supremacist who was shot -- in this case, numerous times at close range -- and survived but was paralyzed from the waist down. At the time he was a US state governor and was on the presidential campaign trail. Name him. 3. In October 1912, a former US president decided to run for the office again, this time as a third-party candidate. On the campaign trail, he was shot outside the place in Milwaukee where he was scheduled to give a speech. Although the bullet lodged in his chest, he refused to go to the hospital and delivered his 90-minute speech anyway. Who was that former president? 4. Numerous attempts were made on the life of Adolf Hitler but, sadly, all failed. Perhaps the most famous was a bomb attempt that occurred in July 1944. Who was the ringleader in this plot? Hint: Tom Cruise played him in the movie "Valkyrie". 5. Sometimes assassins bring heavy artillery to the job. In September 1986, this former military-junta president of Chile was relatively unscathed in a portable-rocket attack on his life. His five bodyguards, all killed, weren't so lucky. Who was the former Chilean president? 6. In February 1991, the IRA tried very hard to kill the then prime minister of Great Britain by shelling the PM's residence at 10 Downing Street with a mortar. They didn't succeed. Who was the prime minister? Please decode the rot13 after you have finished with the above questions and before continuing: Ba gur guveq dhrfgvba gur svefg naq ynfg anzr ner erdhverq. Vs lbh bayl tnir gur ynfg anzr, tb onpx naq pbzcyrgr vg. 7. Would-be assassins can use all sorts of weapons. In April 2009, a man tried to kill the then queen of the Netherlands with an automobile. She survived. What was the queen's name? 8. Please decode the rot13 for this question only after you have finished with the above questions. Va Zvnzv va Sroehnel 1933, Senaxyva Qrynab Ebbfriryg rfpncrq nffnffvangvba jura n qrenatrq harzcyblrq oevpxynlre sverq frireny thafubgf ng uvf gbhevat pne. Ohg nabgure cbyvgvpvna, gur gura znlbe bs Puvpntb, jnf xvyyrq. Anzr *uvz*. The last two questions are about people who survived one or more attempts on their life, but were eventually assassinated. 9. This Russian tsar emancipated the serfs in his country, but revolutionaries kept trying to kill him at least five times. The sixth attempt, in 1881, proved successful. Who was the tsar? 10. In 1960 this South African prime minister -- and architect of apartheid -- was shot in the cheek and ear by an assassin but survived. 6 years later, though, he wasn't so lucky. * Game 1, Round 3 - Geography - Capital Cities of Caribbean Islands In each case, identify the Caribbean *country or dependency* that the city is the capital of. 1. Basseterre. (With no hyphen.) 2. Charlotte-Amelie. 3. George Town. 4. Kingstown. (With a W.) 5. Castries. 6. Bridgetown. 7. Port of Spain. 8. Oranjestad. 9. Road Town. 10. St. John's. After completing the round, please decode the rot13 below. Svefg, vs lbh whfg fnvq Ivetva Vfynaqf sbe nal nafjre, tb onpx naq pbzcyrgr gur nafjre. Naq sbe nal cynprf jubfr anzrf pbagnva gjb cnegf jvgu na "naq" (yvxr "Freovn naq Zbagrarteb"), gur shyy anzr jvyy or erdhverq sbe shyy cbvagf; tb onpx naq pbzcyrgr gurz vs nccyvpnoyr. Fbzr cynprf unir fvzvyne anzrf gb fbzr bs gur nobir. Gel gurfr rkgen dhrfgvbaf vs lbh yvxr sbe sha, ohg sbe ab cbvagf: 11. Onffr-Greer. (Jvgu n ulcura.) 12. Xvatfgba. (Jvgu ab J.) 13. Fg. Wbua'f -- ohg *abg* gur bar va gur Pnevoorna. Gur vfynaq va guvf dhrfgvba vf arvgure n pbhagel abe n qrcraqrapl gbqnl, nygubhtu vg unf orra obgu ng qvssrerag gvzrf va gur cnfg. -- Mark Brader, Toronto | "How can you develop a reputation as a straight shooter msb@vex.net | if lying is not an option?" --Alex Kozinski My text in this article is in the public domain. |
| tool@panix.com (Dan Blum): Apr 25 03:21AM > 1. In 1978 a white-supremacist serial killer came very close to > killing this magazine publisher, who ended up being paralyzed > from the waist down. Who was the publisher? Larry Flynt > and survived but was paralyzed from the waist down. At the > time he was a US state governor and was on the presidential > campaign trail. Name him. George Wallace > he was scheduled to give a speech. Although the bullet lodged > in his chest, he refused to go to the hospital and delivered > his 90-minute speech anyway. Who was that former president? Theodore Roosevelt > sadly, all failed. Perhaps the most famous was a bomb attempt > that occurred in July 1944. Who was the ringleader in this plot? > Hint: Tom Cruise played him in the movie "Valkyrie". Falkenhayn > prime minister of Great Britain by shelling the PM's residence > at 10 Downing Street with a mortar. They didn't succeed. > Who was the prime minister? John Major; Margaret Thatcher > 7. Would-be assassins can use all sorts of weapons. In April > 2009, a man tried to kill the then queen of the Netherlands > with an automobile. She survived. What was the queen's name? Beatrix; Wilhelmina > harzcyblrq oevpxynlre sverq frireny thafubgf ng uvf gbhevat pne. > Ohg nabgure cbyvgvpvna, gur gura znlbe bs Puvpntb, jnf xvyyrq. > Anzr *uvz*. Cermak > 9. This Russian tsar emancipated the serfs in his country, but > revolutionaries kept trying to kill him at least five times. > The sixth attempt, in 1881, proved successful. Who was the tsar? Alexander IV; Nicholas I > * Game 1, Round 3 - Geography - Capital Cities of Caribbean Islands > 1. Basseterre. (With no hyphen.) Martinique > 7. Port of Spain. Triniada and Tobago > 8. Oranjestad. Curacao; Guadeloupe -- _______________________________________________________________________ Dan Blum tool@panix.com "I wouldn't have believed it myself if I hadn't just made it up." |
| Pete Gayde <pagrsg@wowway.com>: Apr 25 03:48AM msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote in news:-8mdnfhxVJGBNmPFnZ2dnUU7- > 1. In 1978 a white-supremacist serial killer came very close to > killing this magazine publisher, who ended up being paralyzed > from the waist down. Who was the publisher? Flynt > and survived but was paralyzed from the waist down. At the > time he was a US state governor and was on the presidential > campaign trail. Name him. George Wallace > he was scheduled to give a speech. Although the bullet lodged > in his chest, he refused to go to the hospital and delivered > his 90-minute speech anyway. Who was that former president? Teddy Roosevelt > Chile was relatively unscathed in a portable-rocket attack on > his life. His five bodyguards, all killed, weren't so lucky. > Who was the former Chilean president? Pinochet > prime minister of Great Britain by shelling the PM's residence > at 10 Downing Street with a mortar. They didn't succeed. > Who was the prime minister? Major > 7. Would-be assassins can use all sorts of weapons. In April > 2009, a man tried to kill the then queen of the Netherlands > with an automobile. She survived. What was the queen's name? Beatrix > harzcyblrq oevpxynlre sverq frireny thafubgf ng uvf gbhevat pne. > Ohg nabgure cbyvgvpvna, gur gura znlbe bs Puvpntb, jnf xvyyrq. > Anzr *uvz*. Cermak > 9. This Russian tsar emancipated the serfs in his country, but > revolutionaries kept trying to kill him at least five times. > The sixth attempt, in 1881, proved successful. Who was the tsar? Nicholas I > 10. In 1960 this South African prime minister -- and architect > of apartheid -- was shot in the cheek and ear by an assassin > but survived. 6 years later, though, he wasn't so lucky. Botha > In each case, identify the Caribbean *country or dependency* > that the city is the capital of. > 1. Basseterre. (With no hyphen.) Montserrat; St Kitts & Nevis > 2. Charlotte-Amelie. Barbados; Aruba > 3. George Town. British Virgin Islands; Grenada > 4. Kingstown. (With a W.) Antigua & Barbuda; British Virgin Islands > 5. Castries. Antigua & Barbuda; Montserrat > 6. Bridgetown. St Vincent & the Grenadines; Grenada > 7. Port of Spain. Trinidad & Tobago > 8. Oranjestad. Netherlands Antilles; Curacao > 9. Road Town. St Vincent & the Grenadines; Barbados > 10. St. John's. Montserrat > rkgen dhrfgvbaf vs lbh yvxr sbe sha, ohg sbe ab cbvagf: > 11. Onffr-Greer. (Jvgu n ulcura.) > 12. Xvatfgba. (Jvgu ab J.) Jamaica > 13. Fg. Wbua'f -- ohg *abg* gur bar va gur Pnevoorna. Gur vfynaq > va guvf dhrfgvba vf arvgure n pbhagel abe n qrcraqrapl gbqnl, > nygubhtu vg unf orra obgu ng qvssrerag gvzrf va gur cnfg. Newfoundland Pete Gayde --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
| Marc Dashevsky <usenet@MarcDashevsky.com>: Apr 25 12:34AM -0500 In article <-8mdnfhxVJGBNmPFnZ2dnUU7-W3NnZ2d@giganews.com>, msb@vex.net says... > 1. In 1978 a white-supremacist serial killer came very close to > killing this magazine publisher, who ended up being paralyzed > from the waist down. Who was the publisher? Larry Flynt > and survived but was paralyzed from the waist down. At the > time he was a US state governor and was on the presidential > campaign trail. Name him. George Wallace > he was scheduled to give a speech. Although the bullet lodged > in his chest, he refused to go to the hospital and delivered > his 90-minute speech anyway. Who was that former president? Theodore Roosevelt > Chile was relatively unscathed in a portable-rocket attack on > his life. His five bodyguards, all killed, weren't so lucky. > Who was the former Chilean president? Augusto Pinochet > that the city is the capital of. > 1. Basseterre. (With no hyphen.) > 2. Charlotte-Amelie. U.S. Virgin Islands > 4. Kingstown. (With a W.) > 5. Castries. > 6. Bridgetown. Barbados > 7. Port of Spain. > 8. Oranjestad. Aruba -- Replace "usenet" with "marc" in the e-mail address. |
| "Peter Smyth" <smythp@gmail.com>: Apr 25 07:41AM Mark Brader wrote: > and survived but was paralyzed from the waist down. At the > time he was a US state governor and was on the presidential > campaign trail. Name him. George Wallace > he was scheduled to give a speech. Although the bullet lodged > in his chest, he refused to go to the hospital and delivered > his 90-minute speech anyway. Who was that former president? Theodore Roosevelt > Chile was relatively unscathed in a portable-rocket attack on > his life. His five bodyguards, all killed, weren't so lucky. > Who was the former Chilean president? Pinochet > prime minister of Great Britain by shelling the PM's residence > at 10 Downing Street with a mortar. They didn't succeed. > Who was the prime minister? John Major > 7. Would-be assassins can use all sorts of weapons. In April > 2009, a man tried to kill the then queen of the Netherlands > with an automobile. She survived. What was the queen's name? Beatrix > unemployed bricklayer fired several gunshots at his touring car. > But another politician, the then mayor of Chicago, was killed. > Name him. Daly > 9. This Russian tsar emancipated the serfs in his country, but > revolutionaries kept trying to kill him at least five times. > The sixth attempt, in 1881, proved successful. Who was the tsar? Peter > In each case, identify the Caribbean *country or dependency* > that the city is the capital of. > 1. Basseterre. (With no hyphen.) Guadeloupe, Martinique > 2. Charlotte-Amelie. Martinique, Guadeloupe > 3. George Town. St Vincent & The Grenadines > 4. Kingstown. (With a W.) St Vincent & The Grenadines > 5. Castries. St Lucia > 6. Bridgetown. Barbados > 7. Port of Spain. Trinidad & Tobago > 8. Oranjestad. Aruba > 9. Road Town. British Virgin Islands, US Virgin Islands > 10. St. John's. Antigua & Barbuda > extra questions if you like for fun, but for no points: > 11. Basse-Terre. (With a hyphen.) > 12. Kingston. (With no W.) Jamaica > 13. St. John's -- but not the one in the Caribbean. The island > in this question is neither a country nor a dependency today, > although it has been both at different times in the past. Newfoundland Peter Smyth |
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