Friday, February 17, 2017

Digest for rec.games.trivia@googlegroups.com - 8 updates in 3 topics

Erland Sommarskog <esquel@sommarskog.se>: Feb 16 10:03AM -0300

> Neither do I. There's actually a number of towns named Oregon in the US.
> Once upon a time, it was the name of an exotic foreign land. So I'm
> going to guess it's in Maine.
 
Well, at least on the right coast. :-)
 
Orgeon Inlet is in the Outer Banks of North Carolina and separates Bodie
Island from Pea Island. The passage is fairly recent: it was created by a
huricanee in 1846. According to Wikipedia, it was the members of the ship
Oregon that first reported that the island had been split, whence the
name. Also, according to Wikipedia, the inlet is today two miles further
south of where it first appeared because of drifting sand.

> I was going to wait for this to be approved, but here's a good place to
> show off my magnum opus. It's my first page contributed to Wikipedia:
 
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:List_of_cities_outside_the_United_State
s_which_have_a_city,_town,_village,_or_hamlet_within_the_United_States_named_
for_them>
 
I was thinking of that list the other day, and particularly names that
are different in the Old and New World. To wit, here in Chile there is a
city called Vallenar. It is named of the founder Irish home town, Ballinagh.
There certainly is a bit of corruption there! True, B and V are pronounced
the same in Spanish, but on the other hand, ll in Ballinagh is presumably
not pronounced like ll in Latin American Spanish.
Bruce <bbowler@bigelow.org>: Feb 16 02:58PM

On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 20:43:28 -0800, Dan Tilque wrote:
 
 
> I was going to wait for this to be approved, but here's a good place to
> show off my magnum opus. It's my first page contributed to Wikipedia:
 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Draft:List_of_cities_outside_the_United_States_which_have_a_city,_town,_village,_or_hamlet_within_the_United_States_named_for_them>
> gets to the head of the approval queue, so that's a draft version. But I
> can change it while in the queue, so if anyone has any additions or
> corrections, let me know.
 
Boothbay Harbor probably same as Boothbay (since the former is named after
the latter).
 
Woolwich Maine named for Woolwich, UK
 
There are *a lot* of small towns in New England named after towns in the
UK.
Dan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com>: Feb 16 11:55PM -0800

Bruce wrote:
> Draft:List_of_cities_outside_the_United_States_which_have_a_city,_town,_village,_or_hamlet_within_the_United_States_named_for_them>
 
> Boothbay Harbor probably same as Boothbay (since the former is named after
> the latter).
 
According to Wikipedia, Boothbay was originally named Townsend, but "was
renamed Boothbay in 1842 after the hamlet of Boothby, which is located
about a mile east of Welton le Marsh in Lincolnshire, England."
 
I looked up Boothby, Lincolnshire and found two places with that name:
Boothby Graffoe and Boothby Pagnell. But I couldn't find where this
Welton le Marsh was, so I'm not sure which one it's named for.
 
As for Boothbay Harbor, I'm only looking for places immediately named
for places outside the US. If I included places named for other US
cities, I'd probably double the length of the list. In fact, someone
started such a Wikilist and I have a link to it at the bottom of mine.
But it's extremely incomplete.
 
 
> Woolwich Maine named for Woolwich, UK
 
Very good. Thank you.
 
 
> There are *a lot* of small towns in New England named after towns in the
> UK.
 
Yes, I know; have a bunch of them. But note that I only have one US
place for each non-US place. I tried to spread the cities around as much
as I could, so that it didn't look like they were *all* in New England.
 
--
Dan Tilque
Dan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com>: Feb 17 01:19AM -0800

Erland Sommarskog wrote:
> There certainly is a bit of corruption there! True, B and V are pronounced
> the same in Spanish, but on the other hand, ll in Ballinagh is presumably
> not pronounced like ll in Latin American Spanish.
 
Yes, I learned to be very careful about spelling when compiling the list
and even then I occasionally made errors. At least one difference is an
outright misspelling (Bogata TX/Bogotá and maybe Matamoras/Matamoros),
but the rest are usually old spellings or old transliterations. Some
examples I can think of off-hand:
 
(US city listed first here)
 
Leipsic/Leipzig
Kief/Kiev
Vevay/Vevey
Sebastopol/Sevastopol
Angora/Ankara
Bagdad/Baghdad
 
For some the difference is just a doubled/not-doubled letter:
 
Montpelier/Montpellier
Upsala/Uppsala
Hanover/Hannover
Harlem/Haarlem
Loretto/Loreto
Monterey/Monterrey
(I think there's one more, but it doesn't come to mind.)
 
And then there's systematic changes like from Wade-Giles to pinyin for
Chinese and the moving of borders (and subsequent renaming of cities)
after WWII. Other systematic changes are the (mostly) standardization of
-burgh and -bourg to -burg in the US (e.g. Edinburg/Edinburgh and
Strasburg/Strasbourg) and the dropping of diacritics in the US (both
forced by the US Board on Geographic Names).
 
--
Dan Tilque
msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Feb 16 10:04PM -0600

These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2016-11-07,
and should be interpreted accordingly.
 
On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
Please post all your answers to the newsgroup in a single followup,
based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
the correct answers in about 3 days.
 
All questions were written by members of the Misplaced Modifiers
and are used here by permission, but have been reformatted and may
have been retyped and/or edited by me. For further information
see my 2016-11-26 companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian
Inquisition (QFTCI*)".
 
 
* Game 7, Round 7 - Entertainment - Nicknames & Stage Names
 
The questions deal with nicknames and stage names of musical
artists.
 
1. Born Alecia Beth Moore in 1979, she was recognized by Billboard
in 2009 as the Pop Songs Artist of the Decade. She got her stage
name from a character in the film "Reservoir Dogs". What is it?
 
2. They called her Lady Day, as a nickname. What was this jazz
singer's stage name?
 
3. When they produce albums together, they go by the moniker "the
Glimmer Twins". Who are the Glimmer Twins? (Two surnames,
please.)
 
4. Born in Michigan in 1947. His passport says he's James Newell
Osterberg Jr. But when he gets up on stage and takes off his
shirt, the fans call him...?
 
5. On the attendance sheet at Birchmount Collegiate, he was Abel
Makkonen Tesfaye. But on the Billboard charts, he is....
 
6. Rolling Stones readers chose Michael Peter Balzary as the
second-greatest bass player of all time. He was born in
Australia, but plays for the quintessential L.A. band.
What's his nickname?
 
7. Lisa "Left-Eye" Lopes lived up to her moniker by wearing a
condom over the left lens of her glasses as a plug for safe sex.
Her 1990s girl group brought us the hits "No Scrubs" and
"Chasing Waterfalls". For what group did "Left-Eye" perform?
 
8. He was born Farrokh Bulsara in Zanzibar, 1946; he died in
London, 1991. Thanks largely to his 4-octave vocal range,
his group ruled the airwaves through much of the 1970s and '80s.
 
9. Virtuoso saxophonist "Bird" was a pioneer of be-bop music.
What was "Bird"'s real name?
 
10. This rapper, whose real last name is Benjamin, formed half
of the band Outkast till setting out in new directions as a solo
artist, actor, and fashionista. By what name is he better known?
More than one word required.
 
 
* Game 7, Round 8 - Canadiana - Quotes by Canadians
 
1. Which Prime Minister said: "Living next to you is in some
ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly
and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is
affected by every twitch and grunt."
 
2. Which Prime Minister said: "As we enter our centennial year
we are still a young nation, very much in the formative stages.
Our national condition is still flexible enough that we can
make almost anything we wish of our nation."
 
3. Name the artist and author who said: "There are few, if any,
Canadian men that have never spelled their name in a snow bank."
 
4. Name the author and journalist who said: "A Canadian is someone
who knows how to make love in a canoe."
 
5. On October 13, 1970, when reporter Tim Ralfe asked Pierre
Trudeau how far he was willing to go to deal with the FLQ,
what was his 3-word answer?
 
6. Which American was Pierre Trudeau referring to when he said
"I've been called worse things by better people"?
 
7. "Not necessarily conscription, but conscription if necessary."
Name the Prime Minister who uttered this famous quote.
 
8. Which BC premier was future Prime Minister Kim Campbell talking
about when she said, "Charisma without substance can be a
dangerous thing"?
 
9. "Coming from Canada, being a writer and Jewish as well,
I have impeccable paranoia credentials." Which Giller Prize
and Governor-General's Award winner said that?
 
10. "The US is our trading partner, our neighbor, our ally, and
our friend... and sometimes we'd like to give them such a smack!"
Which comedian and TV personality said that about America?
 
--
Mark Brader | "One reason that life is complex is that it has
Toronto | a real part and an imaginary part."
msb@vex.net | --Andrew Koenig
 
My text in this article is in the public domain.
Calvin <334152@gmail.com>: Feb 16 08:48PM -0800

On Friday, February 17, 2017 at 2:04:49 PM UTC+10, Mark Brader wrote:
 
 
> 1. Born Alecia Beth Moore in 1979, she was recognized by Billboard
> in 2009 as the Pop Songs Artist of the Decade. She got her stage
> name from a character in the film "Reservoir Dogs". What is it?
 
Pink
 
> 2. They called her Lady Day, as a nickname. What was this jazz
> singer's stage name?
 
Billie Holliday
 
> 3. When they produce albums together, they go by the moniker "the
> Glimmer Twins". Who are the Glimmer Twins? (Two surnames,
> please.)
 
Jagger and Richards
 
> second-greatest bass player of all time. He was born in
> Australia, but plays for the quintessential L.A. band.
> What's his nickname?
 
Flea
 
 
> 8. He was born Farrokh Bulsara in Zanzibar, 1946; he died in
> London, 1991. Thanks largely to his 4-octave vocal range,
> his group ruled the airwaves through much of the 1970s and '80s.
 
Freddie Mercury
 
> 9. Virtuoso saxophonist "Bird" was a pioneer of be-bop music.
> What was "Bird"'s real name?
 
Charlie Parker
 
> of the band Outkast till setting out in new directions as a solo
> artist, actor, and fashionista. By what name is he better known?
> More than one word required.
 
50 cent, Ice T
 

> * Game 7, Round 8 - Canadiana - Quotes by Canadians
 
Pass
 
cheers,
calvin
Joshua Kreitzer <gromit82@hotmail.com>: Feb 17 06:14AM

msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote in news:1O-dnXiie43B6zvFnZ2dnUU7-
 
> 1. Born Alecia Beth Moore in 1979, she was recognized by Billboard
> in 2009 as the Pop Songs Artist of the Decade. She got her stage
> name from a character in the film "Reservoir Dogs". What is it?
 
Pink

> 2. They called her Lady Day, as a nickname. What was this jazz
> singer's stage name?
 
Billie Holliday
 
> 3. When they produce albums together, they go by the moniker "the
> Glimmer Twins". Who are the Glimmer Twins? (Two surnames,
> please.)
 
Jagger and Richards

> 4. Born in Michigan in 1947. His passport says he's James Newell
> Osterberg Jr. But when he gets up on stage and takes off his
> shirt, the fans call him...?
 
Iggy Pop
 
> 5. On the attendance sheet at Birchmount Collegiate, he was Abel
> Makkonen Tesfaye. But on the Billboard charts, he is....
 
The Weeknd

> second-greatest bass player of all time. He was born in
> Australia, but plays for the quintessential L.A. band.
> What's his nickname?
 
Flea
 
> condom over the left lens of her glasses as a plug for safe sex.
> Her 1990s girl group brought us the hits "No Scrubs" and
> "Chasing Waterfalls". For what group did "Left-Eye" perform?
 
TLC

> 8. He was born Farrokh Bulsara in Zanzibar, 1946; he died in
> London, 1991. Thanks largely to his 4-octave vocal range,
> his group ruled the airwaves through much of the 1970s and '80s.
 
Freddie Mercury
 
> 9. Virtuoso saxophonist "Bird" was a pioneer of be-bop music.
> What was "Bird"'s real name?
 
Charlie Parker

> of the band Outkast till setting out in new directions as a solo
> artist, actor, and fashionista. By what name is he better known?
> More than one word required.
 
Andre 3000

> * Game 7, Round 8 - Canadiana - Quotes by Canadians
 
> 6. Which American was Pierre Trudeau referring to when he said
> "I've been called worse things by better people"?
 
Richard Nixon

--
Joshua Kreitzer
gromit82@hotmail.com
msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Feb 16 10:01PM -0600

Mark Brader:
> visit to Poland, the chancellor of Germany made a silent apology
> by he spontaneously kneeling in front of a memorial to the
> Jewish victims of the Warsaw Ghetto. Name him.
 
Willy Brandt. 4 for Erland and Dan Tilque. 2 for Gareth.
 
> "Stolen Generations", National Sorry Day was celebrated every
> year from 1998 to 2005, until the name was changed to the
> National Day of Healing. In what country?
 
Australia. 4 for Dan Blum, Peter, Marc, Pete, Dan Tilque, Calvin,
Joshua, and Gareth.
 
> overthrow of this kingdom 100 years earlier. US Marines backed
> the coup, which was orchestrated by American sugar barons.
> 5 years later the kingdom was annexed by the US. Which kingdom?
 
Hawaii. 4 for Dan Blum, Peter, Marc, Pete, Erland, Dan Tilque,
Joshua, and Gareth.
 
> 4. In 1997, Bill Clinton formally apologized for the unethical
> "Tuskegee experiment", in which -- without their knowledge --
> 400 black males were left untreated for *what disease*?
 
Syphilis. 4 for Bruce, Dan Blum, Marc, Pete, Dan Tilque, Jason,
Joshua, and Gareth.
 
> British PM Gordon Brown issued a posthumous apology in 2009 for
> the mistreatment of the man whose "unique contribution helped
> to turn the tide of the war". Who was the man?
 
Alan Turing. 4 for Bruce, Dan Blum, Peter, Marc, Pete, Erland,
Dan Tilque, Calvin, Joshua, and Gareth.
 
He was treated fairly under the laws of the time (1952); it's the law
itself, prohibiting homosexual acts, that's now considered unjust.
Turing was posthumously pardoned in 2013, but a general pardon for
others who were convicted -- thousands of them still alive -- was
announced only in October 2016, taking effect last month.
 
> 6. It took over 350 years and a 13-year investigation for the
> Vatican to finally apologize for their shoddy treatment of
> this astronomer. Who did John Paul II apologize to?
 
Galileo. 4 for Bruce, Dan Blum, Marc, Pete, Dan Tilque, Jason,
Joshua, and Gareth. 3 for Calvin. 2 for Peter.
 
> what your lives would have been like had your relatives been
> welcome to Canada." He was referring to foreign passengers who
> were denied entry into Canada in 1914. What *boat* were they on?
 
Komagata Maru.
 
> set up a fund to redress the trauma suffered. In 2007, Japan's
> PM Shinzo Abe denied the violations and then apologized for
> denying them. Who were the victims of these Japanese crimes?
 
Wartime "comfort women", i.e. sex-slaves. 4 for Pete, Dan Tilque,
Calvin, and Joshua.
 
> the discriminatory "head tax". The tax ended when the government
> decided simply to bar all Chinese immigrants from entering the
> country instead. Within 2 years, when did *that* happen?
 
1923 (accepting 1921-25). 4 for Dan Tilque. 2 for Calvin.
 
> 10. In 2010, British PM David Cameron apologized on behalf of
> the UK for what 1972 incident? Name or describe it.
 
"Bloody Sunday": British soldiers shot 26 unarmed protesters in
Northern Ireland, killing 13 or 14 of them. 4 for Pete, Erland,
Joshua, and Gareth.
 
 
 
> 1. Name the play in which you'd hear the following line:
> "To lose one parent, Mr. Worthing, may be regarded as a
> misfortune; to lose both looks like carelessness."
 
"The Importance of Being Earnest" (by Oscar Wilde). 4 for Dan Blum,
Peter, Marc, Calvin, Joshua, and Gareth.
 
> 2. Charles Marlow, free and easy with servant girls, is intimidated
> by women of his own class -- so, to catch him, Kate poses as
> a maid. Name the 1773 play or its author.
 
"She Stoops to Conquer", by Oliver Goldsmith. 4 for Gareth.
 
> 3. Eugene O'Neill's most highly-regarded drama concerns some
> 16 hours in the life of the retired actor James Tyrone, his
> morphine-addicted wife, and his two sons. Name the play.
 
"Long Day's Journey into Night". 4 for Dan Blum, Marc, Joshua,
and Gareth. 3 for Erland. 2 for Calvin.
 
> 4. "He has written a play in which nothing happens, twice."
> Which 1953 work was critic Vivian Mercier referring to?
 
"Waiting for Godot" (by Samuel Beckett). 4 for Peter, Calvin,
and Joshua.
 
> were even permitted some sexual frankness. By what collective
> name are the humorous works of such playwrights as William
> Congreve, William Wycherley, and John Vanburgh best known?
 
Restoration comedies. 4 for Dan Blum, Joshua, and Gareth.
3 for Calvin.
 
> 6. Who wrote "Hay Fever", "Private Lives", and "Blithe Spirit"?
 
Noël Coward. 4 for Dan Blum, Peter, Marc, Calvin, Joshua, and Gareth.
 
> 7. Who wrote "White Biting Dog", "Perfect Pie", and "Palace of
> the End"?
 
Judith Thompson.
 
> 8. "She's as headstrong as an allegory on the banks of the Nile",
> says one character -- created by *which author* for his first
> play, "The Rivals"?
 
Richard Sheridan. (Mrs. Malaprop speaking.) 4 for Dan Blum,
Dan Tilque, and Gareth.
 
> the protagonist's ruin professes so many different motives for
> his nastiness that ultimately none are convincing. Name this
> enigmatic malcontent.
 
Iago. 4 for Dan Blum, Marc, Pete, Jason, Joshua, and Gareth.
 
> 10. In 4 words, complete this quotation from "A Streetcar Named
> Desire" by Tennessee Williams: "I have always depended on..."
> On what?
 
"The kindness of strangers." 4 for Bruce, Dan Blum, Marc, Pete,
Dan Tilque, Jason, Calvin, Joshua, and Gareth.
 
 
Scores, if there are no errors:
 
GAME 7 ROUNDS-> 2 3 4 6 TOTALS
TOPICS-> Geo Spo His Lit
Joshua Kreitzer 23 16 28 28 95
Gareth Owen 0 30 26 32 88
Dan Tilque 28 20 32 8 88
Pete Gayde 24 27 28 8 87
Dan Blum 26 10 20 28 84
"Calvin" 15 24 17 21 77
Marc Dashevsky 20 12 20 20 72
Peter Smyth 12 31 14 12 69
Erland Sommarskog 24 8 16 3 51
Bruce Bowler -- -- 12 4 16
Jason Kreitzer 0 0 8 8 16
 
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