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* QFTCI11 Game 7 Rounds 7-8: Britglish, sports autobios - 8 messages, 7
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trivia/t/2cfc0cdf755bbf9e?hl=en
* QFTCI11 Game 7 Rounds 4,6 answers: hard flags, hard mottos - 3 messages, 2
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trivia/t/6203a4be8d0c4ef0?hl=en
* Rotating Quiz #32 - Capone's cabbie wanted repairman - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trivia/t/3baea04abd454147?hl=en
* Calvin's Quiz #165 - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trivia/t/c8b50cf9149fe26f?hl=en

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TOPIC: QFTCI11 Game 7 Rounds 7-8: Britglish, sports autobios
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trivia/t/2cfc0cdf755bbf9e?hl=en
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 16 2011 11:55 pm
From: Stan Brown


On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 23:20:10 -0500, Mark Brader wrote:

> * Game 7, Round 7 - British English, or Separated by a Common Language
>
> 1. In recent decades British English has copied the North
> American usage for names of large numbers, but what was the
> traditional British name for the number we call one trillion?

million million

> 2. This British term for a rude, aggressive, and possibly
> violent young man was apparently derived from the word "boy".
> What is it?

hobbledehoy? (From /Brideshead Revsited/)

> 3. A(n) <answer 2> who comes to the attention of the law may be
> issued a court order, similar to being put on probation, even
> if his behavior is not criminal in itself. These orders have
> therefore been controversial and they may be abolished soon.
> But meanwhile, they are known by a 4-letter acronym: what
> is it?
>
> 4. We would refer to a 4-lane road as having one outside lane
> and one inside lane in each direction. What is the similar
> British term for what we call the "outside lane"?
>
> 5. In Ontario we used to have "traffic circles"; in New
> England they call them "rotaries". The British term for such
> constructions is now used by some people in North America,
> who give it a more precise definition. What is this term?

Roundabout

> 6. The next two questions are about coins in the old British
> money, when a pound was divided into shillings and (old)
> pence. In shillings or pence, as applicable, what was the
> coin nicknamed a "tanner" worth?

Ten pence? But I see the correct answer is six pence. Why on earth
was it called a tanner?

> 7. In shillings or pence, what was the coin nicknamed a "bob"
> worth?

One shilling

> 8. There are several words for the vehicles that train passengers
> ride in. "Coach" is known on both sides of the Atlantic,
> and today so is "car". But what other word was traditional
> British usage?

Carriage

> 9. We call it zucchini. They sometimes do too, but what else
> do they call it?

Courgette

> 10. We call it arugula. What do they call it?

Pope Pius XII

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...


== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 17 2011 2:22 am
From: Erland Sommarskog


Mark Brader (msb@vex.net) writes:
> 1. In recent decades British English has copied the North
> American usage for names of large numbers, but what was the
> traditional British name for the number we call one trillion?

billion

> 2. This British term for a rude, aggressive, and possibly
> violent young man was apparently derived from the word "boy".
> What is it?

Bully

> 5. In Ontario we used to have "traffic circles"; in New
> England they call them "rotaries". The British term for such
> constructions is now used by some people in North America,
> who give it a more precise definition. What is this term?

Roundabout

> 9. We call it zucchini. They sometimes do too, but what else
> do they call it?

Squash

--
Erland Sommarskog, Stockholm, esquel@sommarskog.se


== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 17 2011 2:49 am
From: "Peter Smyth"


"Mark Brader" wrote in message
news:jIudnQu5eP9ngunTnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d@vex.net...

>* Game 7, Round 7 - British English, or Separated by a Common Language
>
>1. In recent decades British English has copied the North
> American usage for names of large numbers, but what was the
> traditional British name for the number we call one trillion?
billion
>2. This British term for a rude, aggressive, and possibly
> violent young man was apparently derived from the word "boy".
> What is it?
yob
>3. A(n) <answer 2> who comes to the attention of the law may be
> issued a court order, similar to being put on probation, even
> if his behavior is not criminal in itself. These orders have
> therefore been controversial and they may be abolished soon.
> But meanwhile, they are known by a 4-letter acronym: what
> is it?
ASBO
>4. We would refer to a 4-lane road as having one outside lane
> and one inside lane in each direction. What is the similar
> British term for what we call the "outside lane"?
fast lane
>5. In Ontario we used to have "traffic circles"; in New
> England they call them "rotaries". The British term for such
> constructions is now used by some people in North America,
> who give it a more precise definition. What is this term?
roundabout
>6. The next two questions are about coins in the old British
> money, when a pound was divided into shillings and (old)
> pence. In shillings or pence, as applicable, what was the
> coin nicknamed a "tanner" worth?
sixpence
>7. In shillings or pence, what was the coin nicknamed a "bob"
> worth?
1 shilling
>8. There are several words for the vehicles that train passengers
> ride in. "Coach" is known on both sides of the Atlantic,
> and today so is "car". But what other word was traditional
> British usage?
carriage
>9. We call it zucchini. They sometimes do too, but what else
> do they call it?
courgette
>10. We call it arugula. What do they call it?
>
>
>* Game 7, Round 8 - Sports Autobiographies
>
>This is the literature round. We did biographies once before
>this season, but this time it is also the sports round. Name the
>athletes who wrote (or, at least, are credited or co-credited for)
>the following autobiographies or memoirs. In each case we will
>give you the title and year of publication, as well as the sport
>that the athlete is best known for.
>
>1. "The Sixteenth Round" (1991), boxing.
Muhammad Ali, George Foreman
>2. "Days of Grace" (1994), tennis.
Martina Navratilova, Billie Jean King
>3. "Fire on Ice" (1991), hockey.
Wayne Gretzky
>4. "All My Octobers" (1994), baseball.
>
>5. "I Had a Hammer" (2007), baseball.
>
>6. "Hitman" (2008), wrestling.
Hulk Hogan
>7. "Every Second Counts" (2004), cycling.
Lance Armstrong
>8. "A View From Above" (1991), basketball.
Michael Jordan
>9. "Bad as I Wanna Be" (1997), basketball.
Dennis Rodman
>10. "My Side" (2004), soccer.
David Beckham

Peter Smyth

== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 17 2011 12:46 pm
From: tool@panix.com (Dan Blum)


Mark Brader <msb@vex.net> wrote:

> * Game 7, Round 7 - British English, or Separated by a Common Language

> 1. In recent decades British English has copied the North
> American usage for names of large numbers, but what was the
> traditional British name for the number we call one trillion?

one billion

> 2. This British term for a rude, aggressive, and possibly
> violent young man was apparently derived from the word "boy".
> What is it?

chav

> 3. A(n) <answer 2> who comes to the attention of the law may be
> issued a court order, similar to being put on probation, even
> if his behavior is not criminal in itself. These orders have
> therefore been controversial and they may be abolished soon.
> But meanwhile, they are known by a 4-letter acronym: what
> is it?

ASBO

> 5. In Ontario we used to have "traffic circles"; in New
> England they call them "rotaries". The British term for such
> constructions is now used by some people in North America,
> who give it a more precise definition. What is this term?

roundabout

> 6. The next two questions are about coins in the old British
> money, when a pound was divided into shillings and (old)
> pence. In shillings or pence, as applicable, what was the
> coin nicknamed a "tanner" worth?

sixpence; two shillings

> 7. In shillings or pence, what was the coin nicknamed a "bob"
> worth?

20 shillings; 12 shillings

> 8. There are several words for the vehicles that train passengers
> ride in. "Coach" is known on both sides of the Atlantic,
> and today so is "car". But what other word was traditional
> British usage?

truck

> 9. We call it zucchini. They sometimes do too, but what else
> do they call it?

marrow

> 10. We call it arugula. What do they call it?

rocket

> * Game 7, Round 8 - Sports Autobiographies

> 1. "The Sixteenth Round" (1991), boxing.

Muhammad Ali; Sugar Ray Leonard

> 2. "Days of Grace" (1994), tennis.

Arthur Ashe

> 3. "Fire on Ice" (1991), hockey.

Bobby Hull; Gordie Howe

> 4. "All My Octobers" (1994), baseball.

Reggie Jackson

> 5. "I Had a Hammer" (2007), baseball.

Mark McGwire

> 6. "Hitman" (2008), wrestling.

Duane Johnson

> 7. "Every Second Counts" (2004), cycling.

Lance Armstrong

> 8. "A View From Above" (1991), basketball.

Julius Erving; Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

> 9. "Bad as I Wanna Be" (1997), basketball.

Dennis Rodman

--
_______________________________________________________________________
Dan Blum tool@panix.com
"I wouldn't have believed it myself if I hadn't just made it up."


== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 17 2011 3:58 pm
From: msb@vex.net (Mark Brader)


Mark Brader:
> > 6. The next two questions are about coins in the old British
> > money, when a pound was divided into shillings and (old)
> > pence. In shillings or pence, as applicable, what was the
> > coin nicknamed a "tanner" worth?

Stan Brown:
> Ten pence? But I see the correct answer is six pence.

What, you couldn't wait until after posting to find out what the
correct answers were? Are you trying to disqualify yourself?

> Why on earth was it called a tanner?

All print or online dictionaries I tried say the etymology is
unknown or uncertain. The OED1 adds that a book whose title they
show as "Leather Manufact.", by B. Cooper, contains a "hearsay
account". Google Books finds a "Practical Treatise Upon Leather
Manufacturing with Trade Reminiscences for Half of the Century"
by Benjamin Hooper, which is presumably the book in question,
but cannot find the word "sixpence", "sixpenny", or "coin" in it.

The World Wide Words web site says on one page that the coin was
previously called a Simon after the engraver who designed a version
of it, then renamed a "tanner" in reference to a passage in the Bible
(that'd be Acts 10:6); but on another page that it's *either* from
that Bible reference or from the Romany "tawno" meaning "small".
--
Mark Brader, Toronto | "Astronauts practice landing on laptops"
msb@vex.net | --Ft. Myers, FL, News-Press, March 13, 1994

My text in this article is in the public domain.


== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 17 2011 4:21 pm
From: swp


On Saturday, September 17, 2011 12:20:10 AM UTC-4, Mark Brader wrote:
> * Game 7, Round 7 - British English, or Separated by a Common Language
>
> 1. In recent decades British English has copied the North
> American usage for names of large numbers, but what was the
> traditional British name for the number we call one trillion?

one billion

> 2. This British term for a rude, aggressive, and possibly
> violent young man was apparently derived from the word "boy".
> What is it?

yob?

> 3. A(n) <answer 2> who comes to the attention of the law may be
> issued a court order, similar to being put on probation, even
> if his behavior is not criminal in itself. These orders have
> therefore been controversial and they may be abolished soon.
> But meanwhile, they are known by a 4-letter acronym: what
> is it?

asbo

> 4. We would refer to a 4-lane road as having one outside lane
> and one inside lane in each direction. What is the similar
> British term for what we call the "outside lane"?

passing lane

> 5. In Ontario we used to have "traffic circles"; in New
> England they call them "rotaries". The British term for such
> constructions is now used by some people in North America,
> who give it a more precise definition. What is this term?

hell

> 6. The next two questions are about coins in the old British
> money, when a pound was divided into shillings and (old)
> pence. In shillings or pence, as applicable, what was the
> coin nicknamed a "tanner" worth?

6 pence (none the richer)

> 7. In shillings or pence, what was the coin nicknamed a "bob"
> worth?

shilling

> 8. There are several words for the vehicles that train passengers
> ride in. "Coach" is known on both sides of the Atlantic,
> and today so is "car". But what other word was traditional
> British usage?

lounge ; sleeper

> 9. We call it zucchini. They sometimes do too, but what else
> do they call it?

courgette? (from the italian, I think)

> 10. We call it arugula. What do they call it?

lettuce

>
> * Game 7, Round 8 - Sports Autobiographies
>
> This is the literature round. We did biographies once before
> this season, but this time it is also the sports round. Name the
> athletes who wrote (or, at least, are credited or co-credited for)
> the following autobiographies or memoirs. In each case we will
> give you the title and year of publication, as well as the sport
> that the athlete is best known for.
>
> 1. "The Sixteenth Round" (1991), boxing.

rubin hurricane carter

> 2. "Days of Grace" (1994), tennis.

arthur ashe?

> 3. "Fire on Ice" (1991), hockey.

gordie howe ; wayne gretzkey

> 4. "All My Octobers" (1994), baseball.

mickey mantle

> 5. "I Had a Hammer" (2007), baseball.

hank aaron

> 6. "Hitman" (2008), wrestling.

bret hart

> 7. "Every Second Counts" (2004), cycling.

lance armstrong

> 8. "A View From Above" (1991), basketball.

wilt chamberlin ; kareem abdul jabar

> 9. "Bad as I Wanna Be" (1997), basketball.

dennis rodman

> 10. "My Side" (2004), soccer.

david beckham?

swp


== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 17 2011 4:27 pm
From: Dan Tilque


Mark Brader wrote:
>
>
> * Game 7, Round 7 - British English, or Separated by a Common Language
>
> 1. In recent decades British English has copied the North
> American usage for names of large numbers, but what was the
> traditional British name for the number we call one trillion?

billion

>
> 2. This British term for a rude, aggressive, and possibly
> violent young man was apparently derived from the word "boy".
> What is it?

yob

>
> 3. A(n) <answer 2> who comes to the attention of the law may be
> issued a court order, similar to being put on probation, even
> if his behavior is not criminal in itself. These orders have
> therefore been controversial and they may be abolished soon.
> But meanwhile, they are known by a 4-letter acronym: what
> is it?
>
> 4. We would refer to a 4-lane road as having one outside lane
> and one inside lane in each direction. What is the similar
> British term for what we call the "outside lane"?

outer lane

>
> 5. In Ontario we used to have "traffic circles"; in New
> England they call them "rotaries". The British term for such
> constructions is now used by some people in North America,
> who give it a more precise definition. What is this term?

roundabout

>
> 6. The next two questions are about coins in the old British
> money, when a pound was divided into shillings and (old)
> pence. In shillings or pence, as applicable, what was the
> coin nicknamed a "tanner" worth?

six pence

>
> 7. In shillings or pence, what was the coin nicknamed a "bob"
> worth?

1 shilling

>
> 8. There are several words for the vehicles that train passengers
> ride in. "Coach" is known on both sides of the Atlantic,
> and today so is "car". But what other word was traditional
> British usage?

carriage

>
> 9. We call it zucchini. They sometimes do too, but what else
> do they call it?

courgette

>
> 10. We call it arugula. What do they call it?

endive

>
>
> * Game 7, Round 8 - Sports Autobiographies
>
> This is the literature round. We did biographies once before
> this season, but this time it is also the sports round. Name the
> athletes who wrote (or, at least, are credited or co-credited for)
> the following autobiographies or memoirs. In each case we will
> give you the title and year of publication, as well as the sport
> that the athlete is best known for.
>
> 1. "The Sixteenth Round" (1991), boxing.

Muhammad Ali

>
> 2. "Days of Grace" (1994), tennis.

John McEnroe

>
> 3. "Fire on Ice" (1991), hockey.

Mike Eruzioni

>
> 4. "All My Octobers" (1994), baseball.

Reggie Jackson

>
> 5. "I Had a Hammer" (2007), baseball.

Henry Aaron

>
> 6. "Hitman" (2008), wrestling.

Hulk Hogan

>
> 7. "Every Second Counts" (2004), cycling.

Lance Armstrong

>
> 8. "A View From Above" (1991), basketball.

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

>
> 9. "Bad as I Wanna Be" (1997), basketball.

Dennis Rodman

>
> 10. "My Side" (2004), soccer.

David Beckham


--
Dan Tilque

Keeping Pluto dead has taken a lot of work.
-- Mike Brown "How I killed Pluto and Why It Had It Coming"


== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 17 2011 5:47 pm
From: Stan Brown


On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 17:58:14 -0500, Mark Brader wrote:
> Mark Brader:
> > > 6. The next two questions are about coins in the old British
> > > money, when a pound was divided into shillings and (old)
> > > pence. In shillings or pence, as applicable, what was the
> > > coin nicknamed a "tanner" worth?
>
> Stan Brown:
> > Ten pence? But I see the correct answer is six pence.
>
> What, you couldn't wait until after posting to find out what the
> correct answers were? Are you trying to disqualify yourself?
>

I was trying to be honest. I couldn't wait, but since my original
answer was wrong I would not expect credit for that question. I
know we operate on the honor system, so I didn't want to take credit
for an answer that did not come out of my own knowledge.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

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TOPIC: QFTCI11 Game 7 Rounds 4,6 answers: hard flags, hard mottos
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trivia/t/6203a4be8d0c4ef0?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 17 2011 2:18 am
From: Erland Sommarskog


Mark Brader (msb@vex.net) writes:
>> All flag images are taken from the Flags of the World web site,
>> where they try to reproduce flags in their correct shapes and
>> proper shades of color. Some other sources where you might have
>> seen these flags would have all the rectangles the same shape and
>> would use only a few colors so that flags 14 and 15, for example,
>> would look identical. Of course the colors are still only as
>> accurate as your display;

Indeed, the colours were, well, difficult. The Colombian flag has a
yellow-orange tone on my display, so has the Romanian one. But I pass
their embassies on my way to and from work, and the flags outside the
embassies has a clear yellow colour.

(Roumania was not in the game, and the Colombian flag has different design
from the one I entered. Somehow, I recalled that arc of stars from the
Colombian flag, but I noticed last night as I cycled past the embassy,
that were no stars on the flag.)

The prize for the most confusing pair of flags has to go Slovenia and
Slovakia.


--
Erland Sommarskog, Stockholm, esquel@sommarskog.se


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 17 2011 3:43 am
From: Dan Tilque


Erland Sommarskog wrote:

>
> The prize for the most confusing pair of flags has to go Slovenia and
> Slovakia.
>

I would give that award to Indonesia and Monaco, which both have a red
and white horizontal bicolor with red on top. Poland has almost the
same, but the white is on top.

At one time Haiti and Liechtenstein had the same flag, a horizontal blue
and red bicolor. Due to confusion this caused at the 1936 Olympics,
Leichtenstein added the crown to distinguish them.


--
Dan Tilque

Keeping Pluto dead has taken a lot of work.
-- Mike Brown "How I killed Pluto and Why It Had It Coming"


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 17 2011 10:01 am
From: Erland Sommarskog


Dan Tilque (dtilque@frontier.com) writes:
> I would give that award to Indonesia and Monaco, which both have a red
> and white horizontal bicolor with red on top. Poland has almost the
> same, but the white is on top.

Yeah, but they are virtual identical, so no one can tell if you have messed
up.

On the other hand, while the Slovenian and Slovakian flags are about as
similar as the country names are, they are different, and you can bet
that if you show the wrong flag, the people from the two countries will
see the mistake on the spot.


--
Erland Sommarskog, Stockholm, esquel@sommarskog.se

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TOPIC: Rotating Quiz #32 - Capone's cabbie wanted repairman
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trivia/t/3baea04abd454147?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 17 2011 3:23 am
From: Dan Tilque


Mark Brader wrote:
> This is a quiz quilt in the manner of Robert Jen, but as you will
> see when you solve it, not exactly. If you write down the correct
> answers to these 7 questions in order along successive rows of a
> grid, you will find the "quilt" answer reading upward or downward
> along a column, or along the diagonal starting from the top or
> bottom left corner, or along the last letters of the answers.
> The four words at the end of the subject line are a hint at the
> "quilt" answer.
>
> Score is 1 point for each regular answer and 3 points for the
> "quilt". Correct spelling is required for full points. If any
> questions have alternative answers that don't fit the "quilt",
> these will not be considered correct.
>
> Please post all your answers in a single followup to this posting,
> quoting the question before each one.
>
> 1. [Literature] This is a dramatic monologue that occurs in some
> plays. What is the term for it?

soliloquy

>
> 2. [Sports] What current baseball team at one time shared a home
> stadium with the New York Yankees for about 10 years?

Dodgers, I think, but perhaps the Giants

>
> 3. [Science] What is the only chemical element named after a moon
> in our solar system?

selenium, although it's possible titanium is also an answer

>
> 4. [History] The failure of Nazi Germany to conquer this city after
> months of combat was a turning point of World War II. Its name
> at that time is commemorated today by a station on the Metro in
> Paris. What was the city called?

Stalingrad

>
> 5. [Geography] What country's capital city is Juba?

South Sudan

>
> 6. [Miscellanous] What type of hat is so named because it shades
> the wearer's head?

sombrero

>
> 7. [Music] Who lived on Second Avenue, in a Barbra Streisand song?
>
> 8. [Quilt]
>

Can't see anything likely, which means I probably have some answer wrong.

--
Dan Tilque

Keeping Pluto dead has taken a lot of work.
-- Mike Brown "How I killed Pluto and Why It Had It Coming"


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 17 2011 3:57 pm
From: "Rob Parker"

> 1. [Literature] This is a dramatic monologue that occurs in some
> plays. What is the term for it?

Soliloquy

> 2. [Sports] What current baseball team at one time shared a home
> stadium with the New York Yankees for about 10 years?

Dodgers

> 3. [Science] What is the only chemical element named after a moon
> in our solar system?

Selenium

> 4. [History] The failure of Nazi Germany to conquer this city after
> months of combat was a turning point of World War II. Its name
> at that time is commemorated today by a station on the Metro in
> Paris. What was the city called?

Stalingrad

> 5. [Geography] What country's capital city is Juba?

South Sudan

> 6. [Miscellanous] What type of hat is so named because it shades
> the wearer's head?

Sunhat

> 7. [Music] Who lived on Second Avenue, in a Barbra Streisand song?

Second-hand Rose

> 8. [Quilt]

SSSSSSS
It's the only thing I can see, and would be the sound of air escaping from a
bullet-hit tyre. And therefore Dodgers is wrong!


Rob


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TOPIC: Calvin's Quiz #165
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trivia/t/c8b50cf9149fe26f?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 17 2011 5:29 pm
From: Jeffrey Turner


On 9/14/2011 7:31 PM, Calvin wrote:
>
> Name the TV show. See file cq165.pdf at
>
> https://www.filesanywhere.com/fs/v.aspx?v=8a6d668959616f7cb49a
>
> 1. TheRockford Files
> 2. The Fresh Prince of Bel Air
> 3. Dynasty
> 4. Quantum Leap
> 5.
> 6. Dragnet
> 7. Moonlighting
> 8. CHiPs
> 9.
> 10.

--Jeff


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