Thursday, July 04, 2019

Digest for rec.games.trivia@googlegroups.com - 11 updates in 3 topics

swp <stephen.w.perry@gmail.com>: Jul 03 05:10AM -0700

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 10:26:38 PM UTC-4, Mark Brader wrote:
> Mark Brader:
> My position is that two standards for one language are more than enough
> and I deny any right for Canada to have its own spelling standards.
 
the wonderful thing about standards is that you have so many from which to choose.
 
swp, who also thinks that candela doesn't deserve to be an SI unit. viva la lumen!
swp <stephen.w.perry@gmail.com>: Jul 03 05:32AM -0700

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 8:36:16 AM UTC-4, Erland Sommarskog wrote:
> This quiz is over and it is a joint victory for Mark Brader and
> Stephen W Perry, congratulations! (There is however, one semi-open
> issue which may change this, but we'll see.)
 
my humble thanks.
 
> I am happy to see that the quiz attracted eight entrants which is
> quite good these days.
 
your questions are always interesting, so I sacrificed other things to make time to enter. (no, I won't tell you who it was.)
 
> >5. Science:
> > candela, kelvin, metre, second, volt.
 
> Volt - not a base unit in the SI system.
 
bah. who is candela named for? miserable decrepit excuse for an SI unit.
 
> > Charle de Gaulle Étoile, Montmatre, Oberkampf, Odéon,
> > Porte de Glignancourt.
 
> Montmartre - not a métro station in Paris.
 
an here I was thinking of the things above the surface in paris. ah well. lovely city, we should visit more often.
 
> reason for me not to accept it. There is a twist though: it was not
> correct when I posted the quiz - the game between Japan and Netherlands
> was still going on.
 
grrrr
 
> > Air Canada, Air New Zealand, British Airways, Lufthansa,
> > Singapore Airlines.
 
> British Airways - not a Star Alliance member.
 
star alliance? you're using science fiction as your basis? bah!
 
> but gave a different motivation, which I have not verified., but appears
> to be correct.)
 
> "lufthansa - not a flag carrier airline"
 
look up the airlines on wikipedia, like I just did, and you will see that all of them except lufthansa actually say that they are "flag carriers" on their respective pages. no, I did not alter the wikipedia pages nor did I have anyone else do it on my behalf.
 
since you invoked wikipedia, I used that in my defense. don't make me do that again.
 
swp
Erland Sommarskog <esquel@sommarskog.se>: Jul 04 12:20AM +0200

> look up the airlines on wikipedia, like I just did, and you will see
> that all of them except lufthansa actually say that they are "flag
> carriers" on their respective pages.
 
Nah, if you look at the German page for Lufthansa, guess what...
msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Jul 03 07:01PM -0500

Stephen Perry:
>> look up the airlines on wikipedia, like I just did, and you will see
>> that all of them except lufthansa actually say that they are "flag
>> carriers" on their respective pages.
 
Erland Sommarskog:
> Nah, if you look at the German page for Lufthansa, guess what...
 
The German page says the same as the English page -- that it used to
be a flag carrier until it was privatized in the 1990s. The lead
sentence, if Google Translate is correct, also says that it is
"commonly perceived by the public as the flag carrier of Germany".
--
Mark Brader "You are dangerously close to attempting
Toronto to apply logic and sense to the actions
msb@vex.net of the Florida legislators." --Tony Cooper
 
My text in this article is in the public domain.
Erland Sommarskog <esquel@sommarskog.se>: Jul 04 10:21AM +0200

> be a flag carrier until it was privatized in the 1990s. The lead
> sentence, if Google Translate is correct, also says that it is
> "commonly perceived by the public as the flag carrier of Germany".
 
That is correct. But that is also the problem I have with the term. The
German page for Flagcarrier says "Flag Carrier (deutsch Fahnen- oder
Flaggenträger) ist ein nicht einheitlich definierter Begriff", that is, it
is a concept with no uniform definition. The same article has a picture of
an aircraft with Union Jack on and then text "Britain's Flag Carrier" - but
the aircraft is from Virgin Atlantic.
 
So I would need to know if Air Canada and British Airways while now private
still enjoy som benefit or official status given by the Canadian and British
governments and that Lufthansa does not get from the German government.
(Since Air New Zealand and Singapore Airlines are government-owned, we can
assume they do.) Right now I have the feeling that "flag carrier" is
something which is in the eye of the beholder.
msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Jul 03 03:32PM -0500

These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2019-06-03,
and should be interpreted accordingly.
 
On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
Please post all your answers to the newsgroup in a single followup,
based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
the correct answers in about 3 days.
 
All questions were written by members of Unnatural Axxxe and are
used here by permission, but have been reformatted and may have
been retyped and/or edited by me. For further information see
my 2019-01-22 companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian
Inquisition (QFTCI*)".
 
 
** Game 3, Round 9 - Geography - Official Languages
 
I'm sorry, I don't speak... um... whatever it is you're speaking.
 
The following is a linguistic round, involving official languages of
various countries (many of which have several official languages).
In each case, we give you a language or dialect, and you name a
country that officially claims it. Some questions have more than
one possible answer.
 
1. Khmer.
2. Tagalog.
3. Walloon.
4. Amharic.
5. Catalan.
6. Pashto.
7. Malagasy.
8. Swahili -- any of four countries.
9. Urdu.
10. Among this country's 10 official languages are English, Sotho,
Tsonga, Xhosa, and Zulu.
 
After completing the round, please decode the rot13: Vs lbh whfg
fnvq "Pbatb" sbe nal nafjre, cyrnfr tb onpx naq or zber fcrpvsvp.
 
 
** Game 3, Round 10 - Islamic Challenge Round
 
June 4 is the last day of Ramadan, a month of fasting commemorating
the first revelation of the Koran to Mohammed. Here's a round
that's totally halal.
 
* A. Muslim Scientists
 
A1. Described as the "Father of Surgery", Al-Zahrawi was an Arab
Muslim physician of the Middle Ages. He invented instruments
such as forceps and catheters. But his greatest innovation
was the use of what wrongly-named biological material for
surgical sutures?
 
A2. In 1979, Pakistani-born Abdus Salam won the Nobel Prize --
in what category?
 
 
* B. Islamic History
 
B1. What international movement started with revolts in Tunisia
in late 2010?
 
B2. In what century (by the calendar we use) was the prophet
Mohammed born?
 
 
* C. Islamic Geography
 
C1. When praying, Muslims face towards Mecca. They are actually
praying to the Bayt Allah (the House of God). Name either
the place or the-place-within-the-place, within Mecca,
that they are praying to.
 
C2. What country has the greatest number of Muslim citizens --
about 13% of the religion's 1,800,000,000 worldwide
adherents?
 
 
* D. Muslims in Sports
 
D1. This Liverpool FC forward, and Egyptian national, often
celebrates his goals by performing the sujud (the Muslim
prostration to God).
 
D2. Ibtihaj Mohammed became the first American to compete in
the Olympics wearing a hijab. She chose her sport because
she could wear it without altering the uniform. What sport?
 
 
* E. Islamic Literature
 
E1. This man, dubbed the astronomer-poet, reformed the Seljuq
calendar, but is most famous for his "Rubaiyat". Who is he?
 
E2. Kurshidbanu Natavan died in 1892. The daughter of the
Gulu-Khan, she is most famous for her ghazels or amatory
odes. Which largely Muslim country is she from?
 
 
* F. Islamic Miscellany
 
F1. What is the name of the facial veil, worn by some Muslim
women, that leaves the eye area open?
 
F2. What are the two largest denominations of Islam?
 
--
Mark Brader "`char **' parameters are packaged in GREEN
Toronto envelopes and placed on the FIFTH shelf."
msb@vex.net -- Chris Torek
 
My text in this article is in the public domain.
Erland Sommarskog <esquel@sommarskog.se>: Jul 04 12:10AM +0200

> ** Game 3, Round 9 - Geography - Official Languages
 
> 1. Khmer.
 
Cambodia
 
> 2. Tagalog.
 
Phillipines
 
> 3. Walloon.
 
Belgium
 
> 4. Amharic.
 
Ethiopia
 
> 5. Catalan.
 
Andorra
 
> 6. Pashto.
 
Afghanistan
 
> 7. Malagasy.
 
Malaysia
 
> 8. Swahili -- any of four countries.
 
Kenya
 
> 9. Urdu.
 
Pakistan
 
> 10. Among this country's 10 official languages are English, Sotho,
> Tsonga, Xhosa, and Zulu.
 
South Africa
 
 
> * A. Muslim Scientists
 
> A2. In 1979, Pakistani-born Abdus Salam won the Nobel Prize --
> in what category?
 
Chemistry
 
> * B. Islamic History
 
> B1. What international movement started with revolts in Tunisia
> in late 2010?
 
 
The Arabian Spring
 
> B2. In what century (by the calendar we use) was the prophet
> Mohammed born?
 
6th
 
> praying to the Bayt Allah (the House of God). Name either
> the place or the-place-within-the-place, within Mecca,
> that they are praying to.
 
Kabaa
 
> C2. What country has the greatest number of Muslim citizens --
> about 13% of the religion's 1,800,000,000 worldwide
> adherents?
 
Indonesia

 
> D1. This Liverpool FC forward, and Egyptian national, often
> celebrates his goals by performing the sujud (the Muslim
> prostration to God).
 
Salam

> D2. Ibtihaj Mohammed became the first American to compete in
> the Olympics wearing a hijab. She chose her sport because
> she could wear it without altering the uniform. What sport?
 
Fencing?
 
> E2. Kurshidbanu Natavan died in 1892. The daughter of the
> Gulu-Khan, she is most famous for her ghazels or amatory
> odes. Which largely Muslim country is she from?
 
Iran
 
> F1. What is the name of the facial veil, worn by some Muslim
> women, that leaves the eye area open?
 
Niqab

> F2. What are the two largest denominations of Islam?
 
Sunni and Shia
tool@panix.com (Dan Blum): Jul 04 02:34AM


> ** Game 3, Round 9 - Geography - Official Languages
 
> 1. Khmer.
 
Cambodia
 
> 2. Tagalog.
 
Philippines
 
> 3. Walloon.
 
Belgium
 
> 4. Amharic.
 
Ethiopia
 
> 5. Catalan.
 
Spain
 
> 6. Pashto.
 
Afghanistan
 
> 7. Malagasy.
 
Madagascar
 
> 8. Swahili -- any of four countries.
 
Kenya
 
> 9. Urdu.
 
Pakistan
 
> 10. Among this country's 10 official languages are English, Sotho,
> Tsonga, Xhosa, and Zulu.
 
South Africa
 
> such as forceps and catheters. But his greatest innovation
> was the use of what wrongly-named biological material for
> surgical sutures?
 
catgut
 
> A2. In 1979, Pakistani-born Abdus Salam won the Nobel Prize --
> in what category?
 
physics
 
> * B. Islamic History
 
> B1. What international movement started with revolts in Tunisia
> in late 2010?
 
Arab Spring
 
> B2. In what century (by the calendar we use) was the prophet
> Mohammed born?
 
6th century CE
 
> praying to the Bayt Allah (the House of God). Name either
> the place or the-place-within-the-place, within Mecca,
> that they are praying to.
 
Kaaba
 
> C2. What country has the greatest number of Muslim citizens --
> about 13% of the religion's 1,800,000,000 worldwide
> adherents?
 
China; India
 
 
> D2. Ibtihaj Mohammed became the first American to compete in
> the Olympics wearing a hijab. She chose her sport because
> she could wear it without altering the uniform. What sport?
 
fencing
 
> * E. Islamic Literature
 
> E1. This man, dubbed the astronomer-poet, reformed the Seljuq
> calendar, but is most famous for his "Rubaiyat". Who is he?
 
Omar Khayyam
 
> E2. Kurshidbanu Natavan died in 1892. The daughter of the
> Gulu-Khan, she is most famous for her ghazels or amatory
> odes. Which largely Muslim country is she from?
 
Turkey
 
> * F. Islamic Miscellany
 
> F1. What is the name of the facial veil, worn by some Muslim
> women, that leaves the eye area open?
 
hijab
 
> F2. What are the two largest denominations of Islam?
 
Sunni and Shia
 
--
_______________________________________________________________________
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"I wouldn't have believed it myself if I hadn't just made it up."
Joshua Kreitzer <gromit82@hotmail.com>: Jul 04 03:22AM

msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote in news:NvidnajcI5dpjYDAnZ2dnUU7-
> country that officially claims it. Some questions have more than
> one possible answer.
 
> 1. Khmer.
 
Cambodia
 
> 2. Tagalog.
 
Philippines
 
> 3. Walloon.
 
Belgium
 
> 4. Amharic.
 
Ethiopia
 
> 5. Catalan.
 
Andorra
 
> 6. Pashto.
 
Afghanistan
 
> 7. Malagasy.
 
Madagascar
 
> 8. Swahili -- any of four countries.
 
Tanzania
 
> 9. Urdu.
 
Pakistan
 
> 10. Among this country's 10 official languages are English, Sotho,
> Tsonga, Xhosa, and Zulu.
 
South Africa

> such as forceps and catheters. But his greatest innovation
> was the use of what wrongly-named biological material for
> surgical sutures?
 
catgut (?)

> A2. In 1979, Pakistani-born Abdus Salam won the Nobel Prize --
> in what category?
 
physics; chemistry

> * B. Islamic History
 
> B1. What international movement started with revolts in Tunisia
> in late 2010?
 
Arab Spring

> B2. In what century (by the calendar we use) was the prophet
> Mohammed born?
 
6th century CE

> praying to the Bayt Allah (the House of God). Name either
> the place or the-place-within-the-place, within Mecca,
> that they are praying to.
 
Kaaba

> C2. What country has the greatest number of Muslim citizens --
> about 13% of the religion's 1,800,000,000 worldwide
> adherents?
 
Indonesia
 
 
> D2. Ibtihaj Mohammed became the first American to compete in
> the Olympics wearing a hijab. She chose her sport because
> she could wear it without altering the uniform. What sport?
 
fencing; archery

> * E. Islamic Literature
 
> E1. This man, dubbed the astronomer-poet, reformed the Seljuq
> calendar, but is most famous for his "Rubaiyat". Who is he?
 
Omar Khayyam

> * F. Islamic Miscellany
 
> F1. What is the name of the facial veil, worn by some Muslim
> women, that leaves the eye area open?
 
niqab

> F2. What are the two largest denominations of Islam?
 
Sunni and Shia
 
--
Joshua Kreitzer
gromit82@hotmail.com
Dan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com>: Jul 03 08:27PM -0700

On 7/3/19 1:32 PM, Mark Brader wrote:
> country that officially claims it. Some questions have more than
> one possible answer.
 
> 1. Khmer.
 
Cambodia
 
> 2. Tagalog.
 
Philippines
 
> 3. Walloon.
 
Belgium
 
> 4. Amharic.
 
Ethiopia
 
> 5. Catalan.
 
Spain
 
> 6. Pashto.
 
Afghanistan
 
> 7. Malagasy.
 
Madagascar
 
> 8. Swahili -- any of four countries.
 
Kenya
 
> 9. Urdu.
 
Pakistan
 
> 10. Among this country's 10 official languages are English, Sotho,
> Tsonga, Xhosa, and Zulu.
 
South Africa
 
> such as forceps and catheters. But his greatest innovation
> was the use of what wrongly-named biological material for
> surgical sutures?
 
catgut
 
 
> * B. Islamic History
 
> B1. What international movement started with revolts in Tunisia
> in late 2010?
 
Arab Spring
 
 
> B2. In what century (by the calendar we use) was the prophet
> Mohammed born?
 
6th
 
> praying to the Bayt Allah (the House of God). Name either
> the place or the-place-within-the-place, within Mecca,
> that they are praying to.
 
Kaaba
 
 
> C2. What country has the greatest number of Muslim citizens --
> about 13% of the religion's 1,800,000,000 worldwide
> adherents?
 
Pakistan
 
 
> * E. Islamic Literature
 
> E1. This man, dubbed the astronomer-poet, reformed the Seljuq
> calendar, but is most famous for his "Rubaiyat". Who is he?
 
Omar Khayyam
 
 
> F1. What is the name of the facial veil, worn by some Muslim
> women, that leaves the eye area open?
 
> F2. What are the two largest denominations of Islam?
 
Sunni, Shiite
 
--
Dan Tilque
msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Jul 03 03:31PM -0500

Mark Brader:
 
> You are what you drive, especially onscreen. Here's a round
> on car makes and models that entered, or were confirmed, in our
> consciousness via TV and movies.
 
This was the easiest round in the original game.
 
> 1. Introduced at a car show in 1954, the Lincoln Futura was only
> a prototype, but it gained immortality painted in black, courtesy
> of a '60s TV series. By what name do we know it from the show?
 
Batmobile. ("Batman".) 4 for Joshua, Dan Blum, Pete, Bruce,
and Dan Tilque.
 
> 2. Name Disney's series of movies about a Volkswagen with a
> personality and sense of self.
 
Herbie, the Love Bug. (Accepting either part.) 4 for everyone --
Joshua, Dan Blum, Calvin, Pete, Bruce, and Dan Tilque.
 
> 3. What was Doc Brown's time-travel car of choice?
 
1981 DeLorean DMC-12. ("Back to the Future" series. Yes, "DeLorean"
was sufficient.) 4 for everyone.
 
Sources that one would expect to be reliable are inconsistent as
to whether John DeLorean and his company spelled it that way or as
"De Lorean". Of course, for purposes of this quiz it doesn't matter.
 
> 4. What was James Bond's car company of choice in 12 movies?
 
Aston-Martin. 4 for everyone.
 
> 5. This intelligent car from a popular '70s TV show was a revamped
> Pontiac Firebird Trans Am. Name that show.
 
"Knight Rider". 4 for Joshua, Dan Blum, Pete, Bruce, and Dan Tilque.
2 for Calvin.
 
As Joshua noted, "'70s" was wrong; the show aired 1982-86.
The car's own name on it was KITT.
 
> 6. This 1969 Dodge Charger was known on its '70s TV series as the
> General Lee. Name that series.
 
"The Dukes of Hazzard". 4 for everyone.
 
> 7. A very jealous 1958 Plymouth Fury was the central character of
> a Stephen King novel and a subsequent movie. Name that
> title car.
 
Christine. 4 for Joshua, Dan Blum, Pete, and Bruce.
 
> 8. The 1977 Trans Am will always be associated with a Burt Reynolds
> movie. Name that movie.
 
"Smokey and the Bandit". 4 for everyone.
 
> 9. This very ugly AMC car was the official wheels of Wayne &
> Garth in "Wayne's World", and the vehicle in which they sang
> "Bohemian Rhapsody". Name that model.
 
Pacer. 4 for Bruce and Dan Tilque. 2 for Pete.
 
> 10. The lead character in this '90s/'00s sitcom, set in a previous
> era, drove his dad's 1969 Oldsmobile Vista Cruiser. Name that
> sitcom.
 
"That '70s Show". 4 for Joshua, Dan Blum, Pete, Bruce,
and Dan Tilque.
 
 
> been unpopular with players, who sometimes refused to show up on
> being traded here. Here's a round on the unloved Raptors, and
> some big names who were barely here for a cup of coffee, if at all.
 
And this was the hardest round in the original game.
 
 
> 1. Nicknamed Mighty Mouse, the Raptors' first ever draft pick
> and rookie of the year lasted 3 seasons before demanding a
> trade to Portland. Name him.
 
Damon Stoudemire.
 
> Kenny Anderson, the all-star player we were supposed to get,
> had refused to show up, and he was traded in absentia -- to
> what team?
 
The Boston Celtics.
 
> showed up, but played less than a year before being traded to
> the Denver Nuggets. He would become a 5-time NBA all-star,
> mostly with the Nuggets and Detroit Pistons. Name him.
 
Chauncey Billups. 4 for Pete.
 
> -- refused to show up to play for the Raptors. His contract
> was bought out for $9,000,000 and he ended up playing for the
> Miami Heat. Name him.
 
Alonzo Mourning.
 
> he felt he was being overshadowed by his cousin Vince Carter.
> Name this eventual all-star, who was traded to Orlando 3 years
> after being drafted straight out of high school.
 
Tracy McGrady.
 
> in 2003 and lasted less than a season before being traded again,
> to the Knicks. He is also famous for coining the term "Queen
> Elizabeth tax hike" as a reason players shunned Toronto.
 
Jalen Rose. 2 for Pete.
 
> in the expansion draft. He was traded without ever playing.
> Name *either* the team he came from or the team they traded
> him to.
 
Chicago Bulls, Golden State Warriors (respectively). 4 for Pete.
 
> list for most of his one season, and his big contract messed
> up the team's salary cap for years. So, no love lost there.
> Name him.
 
Hakeem Olajuwon. 4 for Joshua, Pete, and Dan Tilque.
 
> to the extent that then-coach Butch Carter filed a defamation
> suit against him. Name that player, who would later infamously
> punch Spurs coach Jeff Van Gundy in the face.
 
Marcus Camby.
 
> 2010 and was soon fined and benched for partying all night.
> On being traded to Phoenix, he openly bad-mouthed both Toronto
> and the Raptors. Who he?
 
Hedo Turkoglu.
 
 
Scores, if there are no errors:
 
GAME 3 ROUNDS-> 2 3 4 6 7 8 BEST
TOPICS-> Can His Art Sci Ent Spo FOUR
Dan Blum 24 22 15 14 36 0 97
Dan Tilque 24 24 8 12 36 4 96
Bruce Bowler 19 8 8 24 40 0 91
Pete Gayde 4 18 12 20 38 14 90
Joshua Kreitzer 20 8 -- -- 36 4 68
"Calvin" -- -- 11 13 22 0 46
Erland Sommarskog -- -- 4 4 -- -- 8
 
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Toronto | that Mother Nature is our friend. Wrong; dead wrong.
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| and she loves surprises." -- Henry Spencer
 
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