Monday, October 31, 2016

The Frontstretch Newsletter: Truck Series Feud, Martinsville Mayhem Revisited

THE FRONTSTRETCH NEWSLETTER
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Oct. 31, 2016
Volume X, Edition CXCIII

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What to Watch: Monday

- It's Monday, so it is a work day once again.  If anything of note breaks today, we'll have it for you at Frontstretch.

HAPPY HALLOWEEN!

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Monday's TV Schedule can be found here.
 
Top News
by the Frontstretch Staff

Jimmie Johnson Wins Martinsville for Ninth Time; Advances to Championship 4

Hendrick Motorsports' Jimmie Johnson once again started out a Chase round in the best possible way.  He took the lead from Denny Hamlin with 92 laps to go, the benefactor of a confusing caution and held on to take his fourth win of 2016, locking the six-time series titlist into the Championship 4.  Brad Keselowski was second, followed by Hamlin, Matt Kenseth and Kyle Busch.  Read more

Jeff Gordon Frustrated by Scoring Issue in Martinsville

Sunday's Goody's Fast Relief 500 will probably be best remembered for the 29-lap caution due to scoring issues.  Jeff Gordon was not very happy about that after the race.  Read more

Carl Edwards Hits Wall Hard in Martinsville

While some of the Chasers had problems Sunday, none had it worse than Carl Edwards, who blew a tire and crashed on lap 357.  The 36th-place finish makes it nearly impossible for Edwards to get into the Championship 4 without winning.  Read more

Johnny Sauter Wins Martinsville; Punches Ticket to Championship 4

Saturday, Johnny Sauter passed Chase Elliott with 25 laps to go and held on from there to win the Texas Roadhouse 200.  With the victory, Sauter earns passage to the inaugural Championship 4 at Homestead.  Elliott was second, followed by John Hunter Nemechek, Christopher Bell and Timothy Peters.  Read more

Ben Kennedy Confronts Ben Rhodes Following Martinsville Truck Race

On lap 176, Ben Kennedy spun in turn 2 after contact from Ben Rhodes.  Kennedy was none too pleased with the incident and demanded an explanation from Rhodes after the race in an incident Frontstretch caught on videotape.  Read more

Have news for The Frontstretch?  Don't hesitate to let us know; email us at phil.allaway@frontstretch.com with a promising lead or tip.

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Chasing the Chase: Jimmie Johnson Has Advanced, Carl Edwards is in Trouble
by Phil Allaway

Jimmie Johnson once again has put himself where he needs to be by winning Sunday's Goody's Fast Relief 500.  Johnson's locked into the Championship 4 at Homestead-Miami Speedway, the first time he's advanced to that point under the current Chase format.  Johnson's win cost Joe Gibbs Racing the chance of sweeping the final round, but three of their cars are still looking good.  Denny Hamlin and Matt Kenseth are currently tied for second, five points behind Johnson after finishing nose-to-tail in third and fourth.  Kyle Busch is fourth in the standings, another two points back after finishing fifth.

Joey Logano is four points behind Kyle Busch, the first driver on the outside looking in after finishing ninth Sunday.  He's still within striking distance.  Behind them comes Stewart-Haas Racing, for whom Sunday was miserable for all four cars, including their Chasers.  Kevin Harvick was the strongest of the group early on, but as the race wore on his car hated long runs.  Harvick finished 20th, two laps down and is now 16 points out of fourth.  Kurt Busch had it worse, dropping three laps down and slumping to 22nd.  

Finally, Carl Edwards crashed on lap 357 after blowing a tire.  The 36th-place finish more or less will require him to win in order to advance since he's 32 points behind Kyle Busch.

Of those outside of the Chase, Martin Truex, Jr. is the best of the bunch.  Truex led 147 laps Sunday and finished seventh.  He has a 19-point lead on Brad Keselowski, who finished second on Sunday.  Austin Dillon is another 20 points back in 11th, while Chase Elliott sits 12th. Kyle Larson is two points behind Elliott in 13th and very well could have moved up to 12th had he not had problems and hit the wall late in the race.  Tony Stewart is 14th, 27 behind Larson, followed by Jamie McMurray and Chris Buescher

Chase Point Standings: 1) Jimmie Johnson 4044, t-2) Denny Hamlin -5, t-2) Matt Kenseth -5, 4) Kyle Busch -7, 5) Joey Logano -11, 6) Kevin Harvick -23, 7) Kurt Busch -25, 8) Carl Edwards -39.

Best of the Rest: 9) Martin Truex, Jr. 2226, 10) Brad Keselowski -19, 11) Austin Dillon -39, 12) Chase Elliott -41, 13) Kyle Larson -43, 14) Tony Stewart -70, 15) Jamie McMurray -83, 16) Chris Buescher -106, 17) Kasey Kahne -1396, 18) Ryan Newman -1410, 19) AJ Allmendinger -1480, 20) Ryan Blaney -1494, 21) Ricky Stenhouse, Jr. -1511, 22) Trevor Bayne -1512, 23) Danica Patrick -1591.

Regular Point Standings: 1) Kevin Harvick 1048, 2) Brad Keselowski -19, 3) Joey Logano -38, 4) Kyle Busch -55, 5) Denny Hamlin -64, 6) Kurt Busch -78, 7) Martin Truex, Jr. -102, 8) Carl Edwards -117, 9) Jimmie Johnson -119, 10) Matt Kenseth -140, t-11) Austin Dillon -182, t-11Chase Elliott -182, 13) Kasey Kahne -215, 14) Kyle Larson -222, t-15) Ryan Newman -229, t-15Jamie McMurray -229, 17) AJ Allmendinger -299, 18) Ryan Blaney -313, 19) Ricky Stenhouse, Jr. -330, 20) Trevor Bayne -331.

Outside the top 16, but in the Chase: 25) Tony Stewart -461, 28) Chris Buescher -553.

Race Winners: Denny Hamlin (Daytona-1, Watkins Glen, Richmond-2), Jimmie Johnson (Atlanta, Auto Club, Charlotte-2, Martinsville-2), Brad Keselowski (Las Vegas, Talladega-1, Daytona-2, Kentucky), Kevin Harvick (Phoenix, Bristol-2, Loudon-2, Kansas-2), Kyle Busch (Martinsville-1, Texas, Kansas-1, Indianapolis), Carl Edwards (Bristol-1, Richmond-1), Matt Kenseth (Dover-1, Loudon-1), Martin Truex, Jr. (Charlotte-1, Darlington, Chicagoland, Dover-2), Kurt Busch (Pocono-1), Joey Logano (Michigan-1, Talladega-2), Tony Stewart (Sonoma), Chris Buescher (Pocono-2), Kyle Larson (Michigan-2).
 
Phil Allaway is the Newsletter Manager and a Senior Writer for Frontstretch.com.  He can be reached via e-mail at ashland10@mail.com.
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Letter of the Race: Sunday's Goody's Fast Relief 500 was brought to you by the Letter "C," for "Confusion."  The 29-lap caution late in Sunday's race during a round of green-flag pit stops completely ruined the flow of the race and made NASCAR look bad.  It was not the first time in which a caution has completely screwed up a race, though and definitely not the first race that scoring issues have affected the outcome.  It seems that NASCAR didn't learn from past mistakes (Rockingham 1995, Dover 2004 are some recent examples). - Phil Allaway

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Quotes to Remember: Goody's Fast Relief 500
compiled by Phil Allaway

"We really had great long run speed.  We lost track position through a couple of different means there at the first half of the race.  Honestly, that caution with the No. 19 car put us in the catbird seat.  I wasn't sure I could get by the No. 18 or the No. 11, but we got going and I got by both of those guys.  I thought 'man, I hope this stays green' because that really suits what our racecar was doing all day long... There were a lot of moments but anything in life you have to work for it. It's not going to come easy and we knew that coming into this race. There are so many challenges with this track. I'm so thankful for this race team. To win on this weekend at this track with the tragedy we had in '04, we're thinking of all the loved ones that we lost in the plane crash. We want to thank our family and friends. It's a great time to start winning races." - Jimmie Johnson

"It was a good day for us, not the win though.  I think we had the speed capable to pull it off, but still a really strong day.  The car was good.  The team executed really well, we just kind of missed out on the racing Gods today.  We have a lot to be proud of, a great effort, and showed that we're still a strong team if not the strongest in the garage and I'm really proud of that." - Brad Keselowski, finished second

"It's hard racing those guys [teammates] and racing very, very tough. Out of character for him [Kyle Busch] over the last few years in the Chase, but they're doing what they think is successful, but upsetting me is not going to make their job any easier. I think that he nearly wrecked us at New Hampshire and then we raced him hard for the lead. It's one thing if it's the lead at Charlotte because I was upset about New Hampshire and then we race like a bunch of dummies for seventh or eighth or something like that during halfway. That's their prerogative and they can race however they want and we can race the way we want, but in turn they're doing what they think they need to do to win a race." - Denny Hamlin, finished third

"We had a good day, not a great day. The guy doing a great day is the guy doing a burnout. We had a great car, we just got a caution when we didn't need one – we were on pit road and then at the end when we needed a caution, I saw a car hit the wall and a car smoking so I was hoping to get another yellow and get a shot at it, but just didn't get it. The chips just didn't fall our way today, but we had a good car, we led some laps and ran a little better than we finished, but we still got a pretty decent finish out of it." - Matt Kenseth, finished fourth

"Well, I had a lot of fun out there.  It is great to be here in front of all these awesome short track and Martinsville NASCAR fans.  It's just a special place to me and I had a lot of fun and had a great car.  This No. 88 Nationwide Chevrolet was really good. I knew we didn't have the short run speed for some of those Gibbs cars.  I don't know where Jimmie (Johnson) came from, wow; he is just so good here.  You get him out front like that and he is just unbelievable.  Congratulations to those guys stamping that victory and getting them to Homestead; that is amazing, just like we did last year.  Had to overcome a lot of adversity, but that last run I don't know if it was from running so many caution laps there trying to figure out the scoring, which was kind of a disaster, but that was a tough one for NASCAR to figure out.  I don't know if that had an effect on our tires or what, but the car just didn't feel the same on that last run and had to settle for sixth."  - Jeff Gordon

"This was a good step forward for us at Martinsville. Probably had the best car we ever had here. We started up front (on the pole) and led a bunch of laps early (147). We were up there all day, but have to figure out how to be better the second half of the race at Martinsville. Once we can do that, we'll have a shot at winning one of those grandfather clocks.  I really want one of those clocks. The second half of the race it was typical Martinsville — tight in the center and too loose on exit. We fought that for almost the entire second half of the race." - Martin Truex, Jr., finished seventh

"Overall, we had a top-5 car, but we didn't have the race play out the way we needed it to.  No one made a mistake or is at fault, but that caution came out that jumbled the field up and we had the wave around to get back on the lead lap.  Then, when we waved around we were like thirty-something on the racetrack, so we just maintained.  I just needed a caution to get caught up.  I was hoping for a quick five-lap run and a caution so we could get caught up with those guys, but our car was better than ninth.  We raced in the top 5 early in the race and that's probably where we should have finished, but that's racing sometimes.  Sometimes, you're on each end of it.  We got an OK day out of it – nothing bad and nothing great – but we got through it." - Joey Logano, finished ninth

"Just a good day.  Just missed it a little bit, couldn't quite get the car to turn kind of right through the exit of the center of the corner to get it pointed.  Just kind of struggled with the same thing all day.  Compared to the spring, I thought we were just a little bit off, but we still had good speed, ran in the top 10 all day.  The way that played out I thought we were actually going to be real fortunate and have a shot and unfortunately I just ran out of fuel and had to make the decision to try to go right to pit road there to make sure we didn't get stuck on the racetrack.  Never seen a race at Martinsville last 100 laps green, I thought if we could have got a caution there we could have maybe fought back up to sixth, seventh, or eighth that is kind of where we could run, I thought on outright speed.  Third top 10 in a row, I think it's the first time I've ever had three top 10s in a row.  I think it's the first time the team has ever had it.  Martinsville has always been a good place, but it just shows we are getting more speed in the car.  A lot of these places that we are going to it's definitely helping.  Looking forward to the last three races - brand new cars and Texas and Phoenix are places we have kind of struggled at, look forward to going there and trying to improve." - AJ Allmendinger, finished tenth

"This is progress and it's something we need to keep doing.  It was a solid day for us.  That's what we need to do.  Our team is capable of running top 15 and that's what we need to do.  It takes executing perfectly and getting everything right and today we did that.  We did a good job on pit road.  We executed the best we could and the car was decent.  I'm proud of everybody on the Smithfield Ford Fusion.  We'll get ready for next week." - Aric Almirola, finished 15th

"We missed it.  I don't know where, how, why, we missed it.  Even SHR (Stewart-Haas Racing) as a group, we didn't perform well.  That was not the day we needed.  Sorry to State Water Heaters, their only race of the year and we didn't perform well for them.  We just missed it." - Kurt Busch, finished 22nd

"Goodyear was kind enough and I have a lot of respect for them – they came down here and looked at the tire and said it was a belt failure so that's really big of them to say, 'Hey, there's nothing you could have done about it.' We had a really good race going and sometimes that's just what happens in racing. I just feel bad for Sport Clips, I think we had a top-3 car. I was having a lot of fun and now we just go to Texas and try to win there and Phoenix – we could win at either one of those racetracks." - Carl Edwards, finished 36th

"It was the same thing that happened in qualifying.  I just got on the brakes and the rear end started hopping.  You lose all grip as soon as it happens, so that seems to be a typical thing for us at Martinsville – not finishing these races clean.  I hate it for all the Fastenal guys and all of our fans." - Ricky Stenhouse, Jr., finished 40th (crashed out)

Phil Allaway is the Newsletter Manager and a Senior Writer for Frontstretch.com.  He can be reached via e-mail at 
phil.allaway@frontstretch.com.

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TODAY AT FRONTSTRETCH:

by Mike Neff

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FRONTSTRETCH TRIVIA:

Q: In the 1998 Pronto Auto Parts 400k, Mike Bliss had a pretty good setup at the start of the race. He'd qualified fifth and the engine in his truck was pumping out 718 horsepower, one of the highest numbers in the series at the time.  However, his night did not last long.  What happened?

Check back Tuesday for the answer, here in the Frontstretch Newsletter!

Friday's Answer:

Q:  The Busch Grand National Winston Classic in 1992 at Martinsville was a wreckfest.  Specifically, there were 14 cautions in a 200-lap race (Note: Yellows seemed to be really popular that year, as the all-time record for yellows was set at Hickory that April (26)).  Jeff Gordon was having a great day until a restart not long before halfway.  What happened?

A: Gordon was leading on a restart and Tommy Ellis did not seem to like that much since the two drivers had contact on the previous restart.  Ellis (who was a lap down) spun, while Gordon continued.

On this particular restart, Ellis got immediate payback.  He got in the back of Gordon's Baby Ruth Ford and spun him into the turn 1 wall, duplicating and elaborating on the previous incident.  The crash can be seen here

Gordon continued after multiple pit stops for repairs and finished a lap down in 14th.  Ellis was parked by NASCAR, who felt that he intentionally wrecked the leader.  Ellis did not agree with that assertion, claiming that Gordon brake-checked him.

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COMING TOMORROW

In The Frontstretch Newsletter:
We'll have breaking news from Monday, Tom Bowles returns with Numbers Game and S.D. Grady is back with Sitting In The Stands: A Fan's View.

On Frontstretch.com:
Amy Henderson takes a closer look at how some of the sport's smaller teams fared at Martinsville in Underdog House.
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Digest for rec.games.trivia@googlegroups.com - 6 updates in 3 topics

msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Oct 30 11:34PM -0500

Mark Brader:
> I'd like to thank Dan Tilque for running RQ 236 and for once again
> writing a contest that allowed me to win...
 
And in return, the winner of RQ 237 is none other than Dan Tilque!
DAN! DAN! DAN! And congratulations, eh?
 
 
> For certain questions answers need not be exact, but I won't reveal
> specifics in advance.
 
In case you didn't notice, all of the answers are numbers (okay, for
question #2 that's only sort of true) *and are sorted numerically*.
Entrants were not asked to identify this fact, but it was meant to
help anyone who noticed it.
 
To keep the scores in integers, I'm allowing 2 points for each
correct answer.
 
* For questions asking for a measurement:
 
* Any answer within a factor of 1.02 of the correct answer
(i.e. from 1/1.02 to 1.02 times the correct answer) was worth
the full 2 points. If there were any of those, then any other
answers within a factor of 1.02 cubed (1.061208) of the correct
answer were worth 1 point.
 
* If nobody came within a factor of 1.02 of the correct answer,
but someone did come within a factor of 2, then the best answer
given was worth 2 points, and any other answer within a factor
the cube of the factor of the best answer was worth 1 point.
 
* If nobody came within a factor of 2 either, then any answer
within a factor of 5 was worth a 1 point.
 
* For questions asking for an integer value greater than 50;
 
* The exact answer was worth 2 points. If the exact answer was
given then any answer off by 1 was worth 1 point.
 
* If the exact answer was not given, then the best answer off
by no more than 2 was worth the full 2 points, and any answer
within 3 times the error of the best answer was worth a 1 point.
 
* If nobody came within 2 either, than any answer within 6 was
worth 1 point.
 
* For other questions, exact answers were required.
 
 
> 1. [Entertainment] In what 1961 movie does James Cagney play a
> Coca-Cola representative in Berlin?
 
"One, Two, Three". 2 for Dan Tilque and Chris.
 
> 2. [Entertainment] What US TV series that ran 2005-10 did this
> round make me think of?
 
"Numb3rs". 2 for Dan Tilque.
 
> 3. [Literature] How many books by Douglas Adams comprised the
> "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" trilogy"?
 
5. 2 for Dan Tilque, Dan Blum, Peter, Chris, and Calvin.
 
"So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish" was explicitly identified as
the 5th book in the "increasingly inaccurately named" trilogy.
 
The series was extended with a prequel "Young Zaphod Plays it Safe",
and a further sequel "And Another Thing..."; but the former was a
novella and not published as a separate book, and the latter was
written by Eoin Colfer after Adams's death, so neither of them counts.
 
> 4. [History] French history includes the First Republic, Second
> Republic, and so on. What number is the present republic?
 
5th. 2 for Dan Tilque, Dan Blum, Marc, Peter, and Calvin.
 
The first three republics were established in 1792, 1848, and
1870 following successive revolts against monarchial government;
the fourth followed the liberation of France from Nazi control;
the fifth was established by a new constitution in 1958.
 
> sued by Adam Kelno for defamation after writing a novel
> describing events at a concentration camp. In which Queen's
> Bench courtroom does the trial take place?
 
VII. ("QB VII".)
 
> 6. [Sports] How many inches in diameter is a soccer ball?
 
Accepting anything from 8.52 to 8.78 as exact. (The actual rule is
that it's 68 to 70 cm in *circumference*.) 2 for Dan Tilque and Marc
(error factor 1.065 for both).
 
> 7. [Science] The "astronomical unit" is the radius, or to be
> more precise the semi-major axis, of the Earth's orbit. How
> many astronomical units is the same measure for Saturn's orbit?
 
9.582. 2 for Dan Tilque (error factor 1.0228). 1 for Marc.
 
> 8. [Geography] How many countries does the Danube River enter?
> This includes countries that it only runs along the border of.
 
10. Chris was off by 1, but as this answer was an integer under 50,
you had to be exact.
 
They are Germany, Austria, Slovakia, Hungary, Croatia, Serbia,
Romania, Bulgaria, Moldova, and Ukraine. Less than 1,500 feet of
one side of the river is in Moldova, this at the southern tip of
the country!
 
> 9. [Science] How many vertebrae are in a normal human spine,
> not counting fused vertebrae such as the coccyx?
 
24. (7 cervical, 12 thoracic, 5 lumbar.) I was surprised that the
best answer here was off by 4.
 
> 10. [Sports] What was the first player number to be officially
> retired throughout major-league baseball?
 
42. (Jackie Robinson.) 2 for Dan Tilque, Dan Blum, and Marc.
 
> into polities mostly known in English as states. Ignoring any
> other types of subdivisions, how many states are there in all
> three countries combined?
 
51. (6 + 16 + 35.) 2 for Dan Blum and Marc (each off by 1).
1 for Peter and Calvin.
 
> Minister of the UK began with Sir Robert Walpole even though
> that title had not yet been invented, how many different people
> have held it?
 
54. (See e.g. <http://www.rulers.org/rulu.html#united kingdom>.)
2 for Peter and Calvin (each off by 1).
 
> of an atom generally considered non-radioactive? (Actually it
> is very, *very* slightly radioactive, with a half-life around
> 20,000,000,000,000,000,000 years.)
 
83. (Bismuth.) 2 for Dan Tilque (exact). 1 for Dan Blum, Marc,
and Peter.
 
> 14. [Sports] What year was the last time the Toronto Maple Leafs
> won the Stanley Cup?
 
1967. 2 for Chris (exact). 1 for Dan Tilque.
 
> 15. [Literature] In what novel is it explained: "Everyone knows it.
> The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world"?
 
"Nineteen Eighty-Four". (Room 101 is for personalized torture.)
2 for everyone -- Dan Tilque, Dan Blum, Marc, Peter, Chris,
and Calvin.
 
> 16. [History] What year were East and West Germany reunited as a
> single country?
 
1990. 2 for everyone (off by 1 in every case!).
 
> 17. [Entertainment] According to a movie starring Raquel Welch,
> in what year BC were cavemen attacked by dinosaurs?
 
1,000,000. (<http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060782/>.) 2 for
Dan Tilque, Dan Blum, Marc, and Chris.
 
> 18. [Geography] According to the CIA World Factbook, how many
> square kilometers is the land area of Russia?
 
16,377,742. 2 for Marc and Calvin (error factor 1.2212 for both).
 
Most interesting wrong answer: 7 (error factor 2,339,677).
Perhaps this was a different Russia. :-)
 
 
Scores, if there are no errors:
 
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 TOTALS
 
Dan Tilque 2 2 2 2 0 2 2 0 0 2 0 0 2 1 2 2 2 0 23
Marc Dashevsky 0 0 0 2 0 2 1 0 0 2 2 0 1 0 2 2 2 2 18
Dan Blum 0 0 2 2 0 0 0 0 0 2 2 0 1 0 2 2 2 0 15
"Calvin" 0 0 2 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 2 0 0 2 2 0 2 13
Peter Smyth 0 0 2 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 2 1 0 2 2 0 0 12
Chris Johnson 2 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 2 2 2 0 12
 
4 2 10 10 0 4 3 0 0 6 6 4 5 3 12 12 8 4
 
Or if you'd like to see it by categories (6 points available in each):
 
Ent Geo His Lit Sci Spo TOTALS
 
Dan Tilque 6 0 4 4 4 5 23
Marc Dashevsky 2 4 4 2 2 4 18
Dan Blum 2 2 4 4 1 2 15
"Calvin" 0 3 6 4 0 0 13
Peter Smyth 0 1 6 4 1 0 12
Chris Johnson 4 0 2 4 0 2 12
 
14 10 26 22 8 13
 
 
And it's over to Dan Tilque for RQ #238.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto | "You are becoming far too reasonable.
msb@vex.net | I worry about you." --Tony Cooper
 
My text in this article is in the public domain.
Dan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com>: Oct 30 10:26PM -0700

Mark Brader wrote:
 
 
> 5. 2 for Dan Tilque, Dan Blum, Peter, Chris, and Calvin.
 
> "So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish" was explicitly identified as
> the 5th book in the "increasingly inaccurately named" trilogy.
 
Nitpick: #5 was Mostly Humourless^WHarmless. "So Long ..." was #4.
 
 
> And it's over to Dan Tilque for RQ #238.
 
Thank you. It may be a few days for me to come up with something. Last
time I had something prepared in advance; not so this time. It's too
soon after the previous.
 
--
Dan Tilque
msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Oct 31 04:53AM -0500

Mark Brader:
> > "So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish" was explicitly identified as
> > the 5th book in the "increasingly inaccurately named" trilogy.

Dan Tilque:
> Nitpick: #5 was Mostly Humourless^WHarmless. "So Long ..." was #4.
 
Oops, right. Well, it was a mostly harmless error.
 
> > And it's over to Dan Tilque for RQ #238.
 
> Thank you. It may be a few days for me to come up with something. Last
> time I had something prepared in advance...
 
So did I... and then I realized it was unusable immediately after your
#236 because it too involved etymology. So I came up with a second
idea... and then realized that this *also* involved etymology. The
actual #237 was my *third* idea. I may use one of the other ones on
another occasion if I have the opportunity.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto "When you say 'non-trivial', can you
msb@vex.net quantify that for me?" --Kate Hamilton
 
My text in this article is in the public domain.
Calvin <334152@gmail.com>: Oct 30 06:23PM -0700

On Saturday, October 29, 2016 at 4:43:07 PM UTC+10, Mark Brader wrote:
 
> 2. B (decoy)
> 3. C (decoy)
> 4. D.
 
Dog
 
> 5. E.
 
Kangaroo, Rabbit
 
> 6. F (decoy)
> 7. G (decoy)
> 8. H.
 
Frog, Lizard
 
> 9. I.
 
Shark
 
> 10. J.
 
Dog
 
> 12. L (decoy)
> 13. M.
 
 
> 14. N.
 
Horse
 
> 15. O.
 
Dog
 
> 16. P.
 
Gorilla,
 
> 18. R (decoy)
> 19. S (decoy)
> 20. T.
 
Rhinoceros
 

> a seemingly endless trial over an inheritance: the case of
> Jarndyce versus Jarndyce, or as they would pronounce it in
> England, "Jarndyce and Jarndyce". Name it.
 
Bleak House
 
> at his accuser, an officer named Claggart--and Claggart dies.
> Captain Vere has no option under the law but to try the
> sailor for murder. Name the book.
 
Billy Budd
 
> regime were put on trial as "major war criminals" by an
> "International Military Tribunal" in Nuremberg. Why not
> in Berlin?
 
Because Berlin was split 4 ways, Security concerns
 
> Of the 22, 3 were acquitted; 7 were sentenced to prison,
> and 12 to death. Name *any one* of the 12 who were sentenced
> to death.
 
Goering, Himmler
 

 
> C1. Name the singer and actor who in 1927 uttered the famous
> line: "Wait a minute, wait a minute. You ain't heard
> nothing yet!"
 
Al Jolson
 
> C2. Name the actor who in 1979, as a lawyer pushed past his
> breaking point, shouts to the judge: "*You're* out of order!
> *You're* out of order! The *whole trial* is out of order!"
 
Hoffman?
 

> on foot -- which is to say, on his one remaining foot and a
> prosthetic limb -- only to fail because his cancer returned.
> Within 2, what year was that?
 
1981, 1986
 
> reasons some feel it should never be done. Either give
> the name of this gap in the road system of the Americas,
> or just say what country Yaviza is in.
 
Panama, Costa Rica
 
> that period. Today, though, it represents the annual
> championship of a single major sports league that did not
> even exist during that earlier era. Name the trophy.
 
Stanley Cup, Grey Cup
 
> made a challenge trophy, but in about 160 years since then,
> it has only been contested 34 times. The 35th time will
> be next year in Bermuda. What trophy?
 
Americas Cup
 
cheers,
calvin
Dan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com>: Oct 30 11:07PM -0700

Mark Brader wrote:
> 2. B (decoy)
> 3. C (decoy)
> 4. D.
 
dog
 
> 5. E.
 
gerbil
 
> 6. F (decoy)
> 7. G (decoy)
> 8. H.
 
frog (my initial answer was muppet :)
 
> 11. K (decoy)
> 12. L (decoy)
> 13. M.
 
star-nosed mole
 
> 14. N.
 
donkey
 
> 15. O.
 
panda
 
> 16. P.
 
rhino
 
> 18. R (decoy)
> 19. S (decoy)
> 20. T.
 
hippo
 
> at his accuser, an officer named Claggart--and Claggart dies.
> Captain Vere has no option under the law but to try the
> sailor for murder. Name the book.
 
Billy Budd
 
> regime were put on trial as "major war criminals" by an
> "International Military Tribunal" in Nuremberg. Why not
> in Berlin?
 
Berlin was too heavily damaged by the war.
 
> Of the 22, 3 were acquitted; 7 were sentenced to prison,
> and 12 to death. Name *any one* of the 12 who were sentenced
> to death.
 
Goering
 
 
> C1. Name the singer and actor who in 1927 uttered the famous
> line: "Wait a minute, wait a minute. You ain't heard
> nothing yet!"
 
Al Jolson
 
 
> C2. Name the actor who in 1979, as a lawyer pushed past his
> breaking point, shouts to the judge: "*You're* out of order!
> *You're* out of order! The *whole trial* is out of order!"
 
Al Pacino
 
> on foot -- which is to say, on his one remaining foot and a
> prosthetic limb -- only to fail because his cancer returned.
> Within 2, what year was that?
 
2004
 
> reasons some feel it should never be done. Either give
> the name of this gap in the road system of the Americas,
> or just say what country Yaviza is in.
 
Darien Gap
 
> among other places. In that particular place, you'll find
> a national park named for that type of difficult terrain.
> What is that name?
 
Badlands
 
> that period. Today, though, it represents the annual
> championship of a single major sports league that did not
> even exist during that earlier era. Name the trophy.
 
Stanley Cup
 
> made a challenge trophy, but in about 160 years since then,
> it has only been contested 34 times. The 35th time will
> be next year in Bermuda. What trophy?
 
America's Cup
 
 
--
Dan Tilque
Calvin <334152@gmail.com>: Oct 30 06:10PM -0700

On Friday, October 28, 2016 at 2:55:24 PM UTC+10, Mark Brader wrote:
> "Calvin":
> > I'm heading off to the Quiz Olympiad so CQ463 won't appear for 2-3 weeks.
 
> Rotsa ruck, mate!
 
Thanks. It should be challenging experience :-)
 
cheers,
calvin
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"Björn Lundin" <b.f.lundin@gmail.com>: Oct 29 02:15PM +0200

On 2016-10-29 08:43, Mark Brader wrote:
> 2. B (decoy)
> 3. C (decoy)
> 4. D.
 
Dog (rotweiler)
 
> 5. E.
Rabbit
 
> 6. F (decoy)
> 7. G (decoy)
> 8. H.
Stingray
> 9. I.
Shark
 
> 10. J.
Bear
 
> 11. K (decoy)
> 12. L (decoy)
> 13. M.
Mole
 
> 14. N.
Horse
> 15. O.
Lemur
> 16. P.
Walruss
> 18. R (decoy)
> 19. S (decoy)
> 20. T.
Rhinosaurus
> regime were put on trial as "major war criminals" by an
> "International Military Tribunal" in Nuremberg. Why not
> in Berlin?
 
Perhaps symbolic because of the Nũrnberg laws?
 
 
> Of the 22, 3 were acquitted; 7 were sentenced to prison,
> and 12 to death. Name *any one* of the 12 who were sentenced
> to death.
 
Göring
 
 
 
> C2. Name the actor who in 1979, as a lawyer pushed past his
> breaking point, shouts to the judge: "*You're* out of order!
> *You're* out of order! The *whole trial* is out of order!"
 
Al Pacino?
 
> on foot -- which is to say, on his one remaining foot and a
> prosthetic limb -- only to fail because his cancer returned.
> Within 2, what year was that?
 
2003
 
> reasons some feel it should never be done. Either give
> the name of this gap in the road system of the Americas,
> or just say what country Yaviza is in.
 
Columbia; Panama
> among other places. In that particular place, you'll find
> a national park named for that type of difficult terrain.
> What is that name?
 
Black Hills?
 
 
--
--
Björn
Joshua Kreitzer <gromit82@hotmail.com>: Oct 29 02:42PM

msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote in news:FPGdnY6D0ulo2YnFnZ2dnUU7-
> animal -- but not by its paw. Here's your handout:
 
> http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/10-9/leonem.jpg
 
> 5. E.
rabbit
 
> 10. J.
dog
 
> 14. N.
horse
 
> 15. O.
squirrel
 
> a seemingly endless trial over an inheritance: the case of
> Jarndyce versus Jarndyce, or as they would pronounce it in
> England, "Jarndyce and Jarndyce". Name it.
 
"Bleak House"
 
> at his accuser, an officer named Claggart--and Claggart dies.
> Captain Vere has no option under the law but to try the
> sailor for murder. Name the book.
 
"Typee"; "Omoo"

> regime were put on trial as "major war criminals" by an
> "International Military Tribunal" in Nuremberg. Why not
> in Berlin?
 
Berlin was in ruins

 
> C1. Name the singer and actor who in 1927 uttered the famous
> line: "Wait a minute, wait a minute. You ain't heard
> nothing yet!"
 
Al Jolson
 
> C2. Name the actor who in 1979, as a lawyer pushed past his
> breaking point, shouts to the judge: "*You're* out of order!
> *You're* out of order! The *whole trial* is out of order!"
 
Al Pacino

> on foot -- which is to say, on his one remaining foot and a
> prosthetic limb -- only to fail because his cancer returned.
> Within 2, what year was that?
 
1981
 
> reasons some feel it should never be done. Either give
> the name of this gap in the road system of the Americas,
> or just say what country Yaviza is in.
 
Darien Gap; Panama

> among other places. In that particular place, you'll find
> a national park named for that type of difficult terrain.
> What is that name?
 
Badlands
 
> that period. Today, though, it represents the annual
> championship of a single major sports league that did not
> even exist during that earlier era. Name the trophy.
 
Stanley Cup
 
> made a challenge trophy, but in about 160 years since then,
> it has only been contested 34 times. The 35th time will
> be next year in Bermuda. What trophy?
 
America's Cup
 
--
Joshua Kreitzer
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tool@panix.com (Dan Blum): Oct 29 03:14PM


> * Game 10, Round 9 - Science - Tanquam e Naribus Leonem
 
> 4. D.
 
dog
 
> 5. E.
 
rabbit
 
> 8. H.
 
snake
 
> 9. I.
 
shark
 
> 10. J.
 
kangaroo
 
> 13. M.
 
star-nosed mole
 
> 14. N.
 
deer
 
> 15. O.
 
raccoon
 
> 16. P.
 
walrus
 
> 20. T.
 
rhinoceros
 
> a seemingly endless trial over an inheritance: the case of
> Jarndyce versus Jarndyce, or as they would pronounce it in
> England, "Jarndyce and Jarndyce". Name it.
 
Bleak House; Hard Times
 
> at his accuser, an officer named Claggart--and Claggart dies.
> Captain Vere has no option under the law but to try the
> sailor for murder. Name the book.
 
Billy Budd
 
> regime were put on trial as "major war criminals" by an
> "International Military Tribunal" in Nuremberg. Why not
> in Berlin?
 
too much of it was destroyed; the divided control made it difficult
 
> Of the 22, 3 were acquitted; 7 were sentenced to prison,
> and 12 to death. Name *any one* of the 12 who were sentenced
> to death.
 
Hermann Goering
 
 
> C1. Name the singer and actor who in 1927 uttered the famous
> line: "Wait a minute, wait a minute. You ain't heard
> nothing yet!"
 
Al Jolson
 
> C2. Name the actor who in 1979, as a lawyer pushed past his
> breaking point, shouts to the judge: "*You're* out of order!
> *You're* out of order! The *whole trial* is out of order!"
 
Paul Newman
 
> on foot -- which is to say, on his one remaining foot and a
> prosthetic limb -- only to fail because his cancer returned.
> Within 2, what year was that?
 
1980; 1990
 
> reasons some feel it should never be done. Either give
> the name of this gap in the road system of the Americas,
> or just say what country Yaviza is in.
 
Panama; Colombia
 
> among other places. In that particular place, you'll find
> a national park named for that type of difficult terrain.
> What is that name?
 
badlands
 
> that period. Today, though, it represents the annual
> championship of a single major sports league that did not
> even exist during that earlier era. Name the trophy.
 
Stanley Cup
 
> made a challenge trophy, but in about 160 years since then,
> it has only been contested 34 times. The 35th time will
> be next year in Bermuda. What trophy?
 
America's Cup
 
--
_______________________________________________________________________
Dan Blum tool@panix.com
"I wouldn't have believed it myself if I hadn't just made it up."
Erland Sommarskog <esquel@sommarskog.se>: Oct 29 11:35PM +0200

> 4. D.
 
Dog
 
> 5. E.
 
Cat
 
> 9. I.
 
Dolphin
 
> regime were put on trial as "major war criminals" by an
> "International Military Tribunal" in Nuremberg. Why not
> in Berlin?
 
There wasn't any good venue due to the devastation of the war.

> Of the 22, 3 were acquitted; 7 were sentenced to prison,
> and 12 to death. Name *any one* of the 12 who were sentenced
> to death.
Dönitz
 

> reasons some feel it should never be done. Either give
> the name of this gap in the road system of the Americas,
> or just say what country Yaviza is in.
 
Venezuela
 
> made a challenge trophy, but in about 160 years since then,
> it has only been contested 34 times. The 35th time will
> be next year in Bermuda. What trophy?
 
America's Cup
Jason Kreitzer <jk71875@gmail.com>: Oct 29 04:22PM -0700

On Saturday, October 29, 2016 at 2:43:07 AM UTC-4, Mark Brader wrote:
> 10 decoys, some of them very easy; identify these if you like for
> fun, but for no points.
 
> 1. A (decoy)
Lion
> 2. B (decoy)
Elephant
> 3. C (decoy)
Pig
> 4. D.
Horse?
> 5. E.
Rabbit
> 6. F (decoy)
Cow
> 7. G (decoy)
Tiger
> 8. H.
Frog
> 9. I.
> 10. J.
Dog
> 14. N.
> 15. O.
> 16. P.
Manatee
> 17. Q (decoy)
Giraffe
> 18. R (decoy)
> 19. S (decoy)
> 20. T.
Rhinoceros
> at his accuser, an officer named Claggart--and Claggart dies.
> Captain Vere has no option under the law but to try the
> sailor for murder. Name the book.
Lord Jim?
> Of the 22, 3 were acquitted; 7 were sentenced to prison,
> and 12 to death. Name *any one* of the 12 who were sentenced
> to death.
Goering?
 
> C1. Name the singer and actor who in 1927 uttered the famous
> line: "Wait a minute, wait a minute. You ain't heard
> nothing yet!"
Al Jolson
> C2. Name the actor who in 1979, as a lawyer pushed past his
> breaking point, shouts to the judge: "*You're* out of order!
> *You're* out of order! The *whole trial* is out of order!"
Al Pacino
Marc Dashevsky <usenet@MarcDashevsky.com>: Oct 29 07:59PM -0500

In article <FPGdnY6D0ulo2YnFnZ2dnUU7-f_NnZ2d@giganews.com>, msb@vex.net says...
> 2. B (decoy)
> 3. C (decoy)
> 4. D.
black bear
 
> 5. E.
lion
 
> 6. F (decoy)
> 7. G (decoy)
> 8. H.
luna moth
 
> 9. I.
> 10. J.
brown bear
 
> 11. K (decoy)
> 12. L (decoy)
> 13. M.
star-nose mole
 
> 14. N.
horse
 
> 15. O.
panda
 
> 16. P.
manatee
 
> 18. R (decoy)
> 19. S (decoy)
> 20. T.
rhinoceros
 
> a seemingly endless trial over an inheritance: the case of
> Jarndyce versus Jarndyce, or as they would pronounce it in
> England, "Jarndyce and Jarndyce". Name it.
Bleak House
 
> at his accuser, an officer named Claggart--and Claggart dies.
> Captain Vere has no option under the law but to try the
> sailor for murder. Name the book.
Billy Budd
 
> regime were put on trial as "major war criminals" by an
> "International Military Tribunal" in Nuremberg. Why not
> in Berlin?
Berlin was controlled by the Soviets.
 
> Of the 22, 3 were acquitted; 7 were sentenced to prison,
> and 12 to death. Name *any one* of the 12 who were sentenced
> to death.
Adolf Eichmann
 
 
> C1. Name the singer and actor who in 1927 uttered the famous
> line: "Wait a minute, wait a minute. You ain't heard
> nothing yet!"
Al Jolson
 
> C2. Name the actor who in 1979, as a lawyer pushed past his
> breaking point, shouts to the judge: "*You're* out of order!
> *You're* out of order! The *whole trial* is out of order!"
Al Pacino
 
> on foot -- which is to say, on his one remaining foot and a
> prosthetic limb -- only to fail because his cancer returned.
> Within 2, what year was that?
1978
 
> reasons some feel it should never be done. Either give
> the name of this gap in the road system of the Americas,
> or just say what country Yaviza is in.
Panama
 
> among other places. In that particular place, you'll find
> a national park named for that type of difficult terrain.
> What is that name?
badlands
 
> made a challenge trophy, but in about 160 years since then,
> it has only been contested 34 times. The 35th time will
> be next year in Bermuda. What trophy?
America's Cup
 
 
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Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com>: Oct 30 05:54AM


> 4. D.
 
Dog
 
> 5. E.
 
Rabbit
 
> 6. F (decoy)
> 7. G (decoy)
> 8. H.
 
Snake
 
> 9. I.
 
 
 
> 10. J.
 
Bear
 
> 13. M.
 
Anenome
 
> 14. N.
 
Horse, Donkey
 
> 15. O.
 
Raccoon, Wolf
 
> 16. P.
 
Walrus, Sealion
 
> 18. R (decoy)
> 19. S (decoy)
> 20. T.
 
I think thats my Uncle Derek
 
> a seemingly endless trial over an inheritance: the case of
> Jarndyce versus Jarndyce, or as they would pronounce it in
> England, "Jarndyce and Jarndyce". Name it.
 
Pickwick Papers
 
> at his accuser, an officer named Claggart--and Claggart dies.
> Captain Vere has no option under the law but to try the
> sailor for murder. Name the book.
 
Moby Dick. I am now officially out of Melville novels.
 
> regime were put on trial as "major war criminals" by an
> "International Military Tribunal" in Nuremberg. Why not
> in Berlin?
 
Because the West didn't like that it was still under Soviet control.
Because Bomber Command had leveled it.
 
> Of the 22, 3 were acquitted; 7 were sentenced to prison,
> and 12 to death. Name *any one* of the 12 who were sentenced
> to death.
 
Eichmann
 
 
> C1. Name the singer and actor who in 1927 uttered the famous
> line: "Wait a minute, wait a minute. You ain't heard
> nothing yet!"
 
Al Jolson
 
> C2. Name the actor who in 1979, as a lawyer pushed past his
> breaking point, shouts to the judge: "*You're* out of order!
> *You're* out of order! The *whole trial* is out of order!"
 
Al Pacino.
 
> on foot -- which is to say, on his one remaining foot and a
> prosthetic limb -- only to fail because his cancer returned.
> Within 2, what year was that?
 
1977
 
> premier of his province. In his case it wasn't cancer
> but necrotizing fasciitis -- the "flesh-eating disease".
> Who was he?
 
Nope
 
> reasons some feel it should never be done. Either give
> the name of this gap in the road system of the Americas,
> or just say what country Yaviza is in.
 
Oh, I saw a show about this with two Irish Comedians driving the
Trans-America highway. No recollection of the details....
 
Nicaragua. Panama.
 
> among other places. In that particular place, you'll find
> a national park named for that type of difficult terrain.
> What is that name?
 
Nope
 
> that period. Today, though, it represents the annual
> championship of a single major sports league that did not
> even exist during that earlier era. Name the trophy.
 
Stanley Cup
 
> made a challenge trophy, but in about 160 years since then,
> it has only been contested 34 times. The 35th time will
> be next year in Bermuda. What trophy?
 
Americas Cup (should there be an apostrophe there somewhere)
Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com>: Oct 29 04:45PM +0100

>> Stand in the desert..."
 
> Percy Shelley, "Ozymandias". 4 for Dan Blum and Joshua.
> 3 for Gareth. 2 for Pete.
 
Was this for adding "of Egypt" or for muffing the author? Because
Palgrave (from where I learned it at school) gives the "of Egypt" title.
 
 
> GAME 10 ROUNDS-> 2 3 4 6 7 8 BEST
> TOPICS-> His Mis Ent Can Lit Spo FOUR
> Gareth Owen -- -- 40 0 27 40 107
 
I make my score 31 for Lit. Missed two completely, and one point off Ozymandias.
msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Oct 29 06:12PM -0500

Mark Brader:
> >> Stand in the desert..."
 
> > Percy Shelley, "Ozymandias". 4 for Dan Blum and Joshua.
> > 3 for Gareth. 2 for Pete.

Gareth Owen:
> Was this for adding "of Egypt" or for muffing the author?
 
You gave the (wrong) author in parentheses, so it was a comment and
didn't count. However, as you note, you got the title wrong.
 
> Because Palgrave (from where I learned it at school) gives the
> "of Egypt" title.
 
Huh. Checking Google Books, I see that a small minority of
books do use that title. Okay, then it's correct after all.
4 for Gareth also.
 
This is one of the few pieces of serious (as opposed to humorous)
poetry that I actually like, but my opinion is that it works much
better if you *don't* know that Ozymandias was an actual name of an
Egyptian pharaoh (he's better known in English by another one of his
names). So I say Shelley would have done an even better job if he'd
substituted a fictional name, someone we'd never heard of; and for
much the same reason, I think the longer title weakens the poem.
 
 
> > Gareth Owen -- -- 40 0 27 40 107
 
> I make my score 31 for Lit. Missed two completely, and one point off
> Ozymandias.
 
Typo in scoring. Did you notice where I said "4 for areth" on one
question? And then at the bottom of the standings there was a line
with nobody's name and "-- -- -- -- 4 0 4" in the other
colums? Those were your missing 4 points. The missing name was
because it didn't know who "areth" was. My fault, and I'll amend my
scripts to trap that error.
 
 
Scores, if there are *now* no errors:
 
GAME 10 ROUNDS-> 2 3 4 6 7 8 BEST
TOPICS-> His Mis Ent Can Lit Spo FOUR
Joshua Kreitzer 40 32 40 0 12 32 144
Dan Blum 40 36 28 0 27 0 131
Marc Dashevsky 32 32 40 0 0 16 120
Gareth Owen -- -- 40 0 32 40 112
Pete Gayde 32 15 32 0 2 32 111
Dan Tilque 32 32 23 0 4 4 91
Peter Smyth 31 16 -- -- 4 40 91
"Calvin" 15 0 23 0 4 40 82
Bruce Bowler 24 24 32 0 -- -- 80
Jason Kreitzer 36 0 28 0 0 0 64
Björn Lundin 8 18 4 0 0 28 58
Stephen Perry -- -- 36 12 -- -- 48
Erland Sommarskog 20 28 -- -- -- -- 48
 
 
--
Mark Brader, Toronto | "She gave me the look she gives me."
msb@vex.net | --Michael Wares
 
My text in this article is in the public domain.
Marc Dashevsky <usenet@MarcDashevsky.com>: Oct 29 07:41PM -0500

In article <geadncb1MNWpoonFnZ2dnUU7-XfNnZ2d@giganews.com>, msb@vex.net says...
> > clay, grass, hardcourt
> > ...
 
> Yeah, that's exactly what you said the first time, 2 days 7 hours earlier.
 
Never showed up on my server apparently.
 
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