Sunday, July 31, 2016

Digest for rec.games.trivia@googlegroups.com - 18 updates in 4 topics

Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com>: Jul 30 12:05PM +0100

Please Identify :
 
1. Willed his second best bed to wife Anne
2. Printed "The Recuyell of the Historyes of Troye" around 1475
3. With his sister Caroline discovered the sixth and seventh moons of Saturn
4. Won best actor Oscar for "Kiss of the Spider Woman".
5. Succeeded Jeffrey Hunter in role of Captain.
6. Colonel in the 13th US Infantry Regiment during the Battle of Bull Run.
7. Defensive Lineman who scored an offensive touchdown in SuperBowl XX.
8. Founder of Battle Creek Toasted Corn Flake Company.
9. Nobel Prize winning author of "As I Lay Dying"
10. Landed at Pevensey, defeated Harold Godwinson.
11. 27th US President.
12. Fifth single by The Smiths, with "How Soon Is Now" and "Heaven Knows I'm
Miserable Now" on the flip side. (They don't release singles like that
any more).
Erland Sommarskog <esquel@sommarskog.se>: Jul 30 01:38PM +0200

> Please Identify :
 
With the risk of scoring a zero slate:

> 2. Printed "The Recuyell of the Historyes of Troye" around 1475
 
Gutenberg
 
> 3. With his sister Caroline discovered the sixth and seventh moons of
> Saturn
 
Gallileo
 
> 8. Founder of Battle Creek Toasted Corn Flake Company.
 
Kellog
 
> 9. Nobel Prize winning author of "As I Lay Dying"
 
Harold Pinter
 
> 11. 27th US President.
 
McKinley
 
> 12. Fifth single by The Smiths, with "How Soon Is Now" and "Heaven Knows
> I'm Miserable Now" on the flip side. (They don't release singles like
> that any more).
 
Let's all be happy for that. I've two albums with The Smiths, but I will
have to that I find Morrisey to be one of those pretentious guys that
take himself far too seriously.
 
(I do have "Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now", but only with Act, in a
50-plus re-release box of their "Laughters, Tears and Rage".)
 
 
 
--
Erland Sommarskog, Stockholm, esquel@sommarskog.se
Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com>: Jul 30 01:42PM +0100


> Let's all be happy for that. I've two albums with The Smiths, but I will
> have to that I find Morrisey to be one of those pretentious guys that
> take himself far too seriously.
 
Oh, he's insufferable. But those records are *brilliant*.
swp <Stephen.W.Perry@gmail.com>: Jul 30 08:00AM -0700

On Saturday, July 30, 2016 at 7:05:04 AM UTC-4, Gareth Owen wrote:
> Please Identify :
 
> 1. Willed his second best bed to wife Anne
 
william shakespeare
 
> 2. Printed "The Recuyell of the Historyes of Troye" around 1475
 
lefevre? (it was the first book printed in english)
 
> 3. With his sister Caroline discovered the sixth and seventh moons of Saturn
 
I was going to say cassini, but that doesn't fit the pattern.
 
so I will go with william herschel (didn't know about his sister)
 
> 4. Won best actor Oscar for "Kiss of the Spider Woman".
 
william hurt
 
> 5. Succeeded Jeffrey Hunter in role of Captain.
 
william shatner
 
> 6. Colonel in the 13th US Infantry Regiment during the Battle of Bull Run.
 
colonel william t. sherman
 
> 7. Defensive Lineman who scored an offensive touchdown in SuperBowl XX.
 
william 'the refrigerator' perry (no relation)
 
> 8. Founder of Battle Creek Toasted Corn Flake Company.
 
william kellog
 
> 9. Nobel Prize winning author of "As I Lay Dying"
 
william faulkner
 
> 10. Landed at Pevensey, defeated Harold Godwinson.
 
duke william the 2nd(?) of normandy (battle of hastings)
 
> 11. 27th US President.
 
william howard taft
 
> 12. Fifth single by The Smiths, with "How Soon Is Now" and "Heaven Knows I'm
> Miserable Now" on the flip side. (They don't release singles like that
> any more).
 
morrissey ... ugh! ... william in the title ... nope, not recalling it.
 
 
swp (the w is for william)
 
p.s. not bad for a guy who just turned 51 today.
tool@panix.com (Dan Blum): Jul 30 03:08PM

> Please Identify :
 
> 1. Willed his second best bed to wife Anne
 
William Shakespeare
 
> 2. Printed "The Recuyell of the Historyes of Troye" around 1475
 
William Caxton
 
> 3. With his sister Caroline discovered the sixth and seventh moons of Saturn
 
William Herschel
 
> 4. Won best actor Oscar for "Kiss of the Spider Woman".
 
William Hurt
 
> 5. Succeeded Jeffrey Hunter in role of Captain.
 
William Shatner
 
> 6. Colonel in the 13th US Infantry Regiment during the Battle of Bull Run.
 
William Tecumseh Sherman
 
> 8. Founder of Battle Creek Toasted Corn Flake Company.
 
William Kellogg
 
> 9. Nobel Prize winning author of "As I Lay Dying"
 
William Faulkner
 
> 10. Landed at Pevensey, defeated Harold Godwinson.
 
William the Conqueror
 
> 11. 27th US President.
 
William Howard Taft
 
--
_______________________________________________________________________
Dan Blum tool@panix.com
"I wouldn't have believed it myself if I hadn't just made it up."
msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Jul 30 11:15AM -0500

Gareth Owen:
> 1. Willed his second best bed to wife Anne
 
William Shakespeare.
 
> 3. With his sister Caroline discovered the sixth and seventh moons of Saturn
 
William Herschel.
 
> 4. Won best actor Oscar for "Kiss of the Spider Woman".
 
William Hurt.
 
> 5. Succeeded Jeffrey Hunter in role of Captain.
 
William Shatner.
 
> 6. Colonel in the 13th US Infantry Regiment during the Battle of Bull Run.
 
William Burnside?
 
> 7. Defensive Lineman who scored an offensive touchdown in SuperBowl XX.
 
William Onside. :-)
 
> 8. Founder of Battle Creek Toasted Corn Flake Company.
 
William Kellogg.
 
> 9. Nobel Prize winning author of "As I Lay Dying"
 
William Faulkner.
 
> 10. Landed at Pevensey, defeated Harold Godwinson.
 
King William I of England.
 
> 11. 27th US President.
 
William Taft.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto "Well, I'm back", he said.
msb@vex.net -- Tolkien (The Lord of the Rings)
 
My text in this article is in the public domain.
"Peter Smyth" <smythp@gmail.com>: Jul 30 05:45PM

Gareth Owen wrote:
 
> Please Identify :
 
> 1. Willed his second best bed to wife Anne
William Shakespeare
> 2. Printed "The Recuyell of the Historyes of Troye" around 1475
> 3. With his sister Caroline discovered the sixth and seventh moons of
> Saturn
William Herschel
> Run.
> 7. Defensive Lineman who scored an offensive touchdown in
> SuperBowl XX.
William Perry
> 8. Founder of Battle Creek Toasted Corn Flake Company.
> 9. Nobel Prize winning author of "As I Lay Dying"
> 10. Landed at Pevensey, defeated Harold Godwinson.
William the Conqueror
> 11. 27th US President.
William Taft
> 12. Fifth single by The Smiths, with "How Soon Is Now" and "Heaven
> Knows I'm Miserable Now" on the flip side. (They don't release
> singles like that any more).
 
Peter Smyth
Dan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com>: Jul 30 04:09PM -0700

Gareth Owen wrote:
> Please Identify :
 
> 1. Willed his second best bed to wife Anne
 
Shakespeare
 
> 2. Printed "The Recuyell of the Historyes of Troye" around 1475
> 3. With his sister Caroline discovered the sixth and seventh moons of Saturn
 
Herschel
 
> 4. Won best actor Oscar for "Kiss of the Spider Woman".
> 5. Succeeded Jeffrey Hunter in role of Captain.
 
Shatner
 
> 6. Colonel in the 13th US Infantry Regiment during the Battle of Bull Run.
> 7. Defensive Lineman who scored an offensive touchdown in SuperBowl XX.
 
Perry
 
> 8. Founder of Battle Creek Toasted Corn Flake Company.
 
Kellogg
 
> 9. Nobel Prize winning author of "As I Lay Dying"
> 10. Landed at Pevensey, defeated Harold Godwinson.
 
Duke of Normandy
 
> 11. 27th US President.
 
Taft
 
 
--
Dan Tilque
Marc Dashevsky <usenet@MarcDashevsky.com>: Jul 31 03:45AM -0500

In article <87y44jfktb.fsf@gmail.com>, gwowen@gmail.com says...
> 2. Printed "The Recuyell of the Historyes of Troye" around 1475
> 3. With his sister Caroline discovered the sixth and seventh moons of Saturn
> 4. Won best actor Oscar for "Kiss of the Spider Woman".
William Hurt
 
> 5. Succeeded Jeffrey Hunter in role of Captain.
> 6. Colonel in the 13th US Infantry Regiment during the Battle of Bull Run.
> 7. Defensive Lineman who scored an offensive touchdown in SuperBowl XX.
William "The Refrigerator" Perry
 
> 8. Founder of Battle Creek Toasted Corn Flake Company.
William Kellogg
 
> 9. Nobel Prize winning author of "As I Lay Dying"
William Faulkner
 
> 10. Landed at Pevensey, defeated Harold Godwinson.
> 11. 27th US President.
William Howard Taft
 
 
--
Replace "usenet" with "marc" in the e-mail address.
msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Jul 30 10:18PM -0500

These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2016-06-13,
and should be interpreted accordingly.
 
On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
Please post all your answers to the newsgroup in a single followup,
based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
the correct answers in about 3 days.
 
All questions were written by members of the Usual Suspects and
are used here by permission, but have been reformatted and may
have been retyped and/or edited by me. For further information
see my 2016-05-31 companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian
Inquisition (QFTCI*)".
 
 
I did not write either of these rounds.
 
 
* Game 4, Round 7 - History - In the Midst of the Great War
 
100 years ago, we found ourselves in the midst of the Great War,
now known as World War I. The following questions relate largely
to events that occurred during 1916.
 
1. Who was the British Minister of War from 1914 until 1916, when
he died when the ship carrying him on a visit to Russia struck
a mine and sank?
 
2. Which battle started in February 1916 with a German attack in
France, and continued until December 1916? It was one of
the war's bloodiest, with each side suffering casualties in
the hundreds of thousands, and ended with a French victory.
It is named after the town in northeast France whose nearby
hills hosted the fighting.
 
3. Who was the Chief of Staff of the French armies until replaced
at the end of 1916?
 
4. Name any one of the three prominent German generals who became
Chief of Staff after the war began.
 
5. In May 1916, the Royal Navy's Grand Fleet encountered the
German High Seas Fleet in the North Sea, between them amounting
to 250 warships. In the ensuing battle over 6,000 British
sailors died compared with about 2,500 Germans; then, during
the night, the German fleet... fled. Name this battle.
 
6. After the Battle of <answer 5>, Winston Churchill, who was
then Lord of the Admiralty, described the admiral who allowed
the Germans to escape as as "the only man on either side who
could lose the war in an afternoon." Which admiral?
 
7. Please decode the rot13 only after you have finished with the
previous questions. Gur Onggyr bs gur Fbzzr ortna ba Whyl 1,
1916, naq pbagvahrq sbe svir zbaguf jvgubhg tnvaf ol rvgure fvqr.
Ba gur svefg qnl bs gur onggyr, arne gur Serapu ivyyntr bs
Ornhzbag-Unzry ["obj-zbna-gnz-ryy"], gur ertvzrag sebz *juvpu
qbzvavba bs gur Oevgvfu Rzcver* jnf ynetryl phg qbja ol thasver
nsgre na vyy-pbaprvirq Oevgvfu beqre gb nqinapr bire rkcbfrq
tebhaq gbjneq Trezna gerapurf? Gur arkg qnl, srjre guna bar
zna va gra jnf cerfrag sbe ebyy pnyy.
 
8. What new method of attack was first used during the Battle of
the Somme? It did not give the decisive advantage hoped for
at the time, but became immensely important during World War II.
 
9. The Military Service Act of January 1916 introduced conscription
to the United Kingdom. To which part of the UK did the Act
not apply?
 
10. Resistance was an important activity in German-occupied Belgium.
A British nurse was executed for assisting Allied soldiers
and prisoners of war to escape into the neutral Netherlands.
What was her name?
 
 
* Game 4, Round 8 - Science - Don't Panic! It May Not be as Bad as it Sounds
 
Hypochondriacs, be reassured: none of the scary-sounding things
on this handout will kill you, and very few are contagious.
(On the other hand, you do have at least two of them.)
 
From the handout:
 
Alopecia | Epispadias | Lentigo senilis
Anosmia | Eructation | Mathematics disorder
Aperient | Fasciculation | Micturition
Bezoar | Fish-odor syndrome | Nares
Bruxism | Icterus | Nevus
Cachexia | Keratoma | Pyrexia
Darier disease | Kyphosis | Singultus
Doraphobia | Laminaria | Tachypnea
 
pick the alternative term that doctors use when they want to
impress you.
 
1. Hiccups.
2. A callus.
3. Urination.
4. Muscle twitch.
5. Baldness or hair loss.
6. Age spot or liver spot.
7. Lack of the sense of smell.
8. Fever.
9. Fast breathing.
10. A mole.
 
 
So there were 14 decoys. Decode the rot13 if you'd like to identify
them for fun, but for no points.
 
11. Rkprffvir grrgu tevaqvat naq/be wnj pyrapuvat.
 
12. Gevzrgulynzvahevn, n pbatravgny zrgnobyvp reebe gung cebqhprf
n obql bqbe erfrzoyvat gur fzryy bs ebggvat svfu.
 
13. Trareny culfvpny jnfgvat jvgu ybff bs jrvtug naq zhfpyr znff
qhr gb n qvfrnfr.
 
14. Bhgjneq pheingher bs gur fcvar, pnhfvat n uhzcrq onpx.
 
15. Pbatravgny znysbezngvba va juvpu gur bcravat bs gur herguen
vf ba gur gbc fvqr bs gur cravf.
 
16. N pyhzc be jnq bs fjnyybjrq sbbq be unve.
 
17. N guva cvrpr bs fgrevyr frnjrrq gung pna or hfrq gb tenqhnyyl
qvyngr gur preivk (jung, sbe jbzra tvivat ovegu ng gur ornpu?).
 
18. Na noabezny naq crefvfgrag srne bs she.
 
19. Gur abfgevyf.
 
20. N trargvp fxva qvfrnfr punenpgrevmrq ol na noabeznyvgl bs gur
ubeal ynlre bs gur fxva nebhaq gur unve sbyyvpyrf.
 
21. N ynkngvir.
 
22. N pbaqvgvba punenpgrevmrq ol zngu fxvyyf gung ner fvtavsvpnagyl
orybj abezny, tvira gur crefba'f ntr, vagryyvtrapr, naq
rqhpngvba.
 
23. Wnhaqvpr.
 
24. Orypuvat.
 
--
Mark Brader "Finally no number of additional epicycles can
Toronto hide the fact that We've Got a Problem Here."
msb@vex.net -- from a science book club promotion
 
My text in this article is in the public domain.
tool@panix.com (Dan Blum): Jul 31 03:56AM

> the hundreds of thousands, and ended with a French victory.
> It is named after the town in northeast France whose nearby
> hills hosted the fighting.
 
Verdun
 
> 3. Who was the Chief of Staff of the French armies until replaced
> at the end of 1916?
 
Foch
 
> 4. Name any one of the three prominent German generals who became
> Chief of Staff after the war began.
 
Hindenburg
 
> to 250 warships. In the ensuing battle over 6,000 British
> sailors died compared with about 2,500 Germans; then, during
> the night, the German fleet... fled. Name this battle.
 
Jutland
 
> then Lord of the Admiralty, described the admiral who allowed
> the Germans to escape as as "the only man on either side who
> could lose the war in an afternoon." Which admiral?
 
Fisher
 
> nsgre na vyy-pbaprvirq Oevgvfu beqre gb nqinapr bire rkcbfrq
> tebhaq gbjneq Trezna gerapurf? Gur arkg qnl, srjre guna bar
> zna va gra jnf cerfrag sbe ebyy pnyy.
 
Australia; New Zealand
 
> 8. What new method of attack was first used during the Battle of
> the Somme? It did not give the decisive advantage hoped for
> at the time, but became immensely important during World War II.
 
tanks
 
> 9. The Military Service Act of January 1916 introduced conscription
> to the United Kingdom. To which part of the UK did the Act
> not apply?
 
Ireland
 
> * Game 4, Round 8 - Science - Don't Panic! It May Not be as Bad as it Sounds
 
> 1. Hiccups.
 
Singultus
 
> 2. A callus.
 
Kyphosis
 
> 3. Urination.
 
Micturition
 
> 4. Muscle twitch.
 
Fasciculation
 
> 5. Baldness or hair loss.
 
Alopecia
 
> 6. Age spot or liver spot.
 
Nevus; Keratoma
 
> 7. Lack of the sense of smell.
 
Anosmia
 
> 8. Fever.
 
Pyrexia
 
> 9. Fast breathing.
 
Tachypnea
 
> 10. A mole.
 
Keratoma; Nevus
 
--
_______________________________________________________________________
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"I wouldn't have believed it myself if I hadn't just made it up."
Joshua Kreitzer <gromit82@hotmail.com>: Jul 31 05:08AM

msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote in
> the hundreds of thousands, and ended with a French victory.
> It is named after the town in northeast France whose nearby
> hills hosted the fighting.
 
Passchendaele
 
> nsgre na vyy-pbaprvirq Oevgvfu beqre gb nqinapr bire rkcbfrq
> tebhaq gbjneq Trezna gerapurf? Gur arkg qnl, srjre guna bar
> zna va gra jnf cerfrag sbe ebyy pnyy.
 
Canada; Australia
 
> 9. The Military Service Act of January 1916 introduced conscription
> to the United Kingdom. To which part of the UK did the Act
> not apply?
 
Ireland

> on this handout will kill you, and very few are contagious.
> (On the other hand, you do have at least two of them.)
 
> 1. Hiccups.
 
Epispadias; Fasciculation
 
> 2. A callus.
 
Bezoar; Nevus
 
> 3. Urination.
 
Micturition
 
> 4. Muscle twitch.
 
Icterus; Fasciculation
 
> 5. Baldness or hair loss.
 
Alopecia
 
> 6. Age spot or liver spot.
 
Keratoma; Bezoar
 
> 7. Lack of the sense of smell.
 
Anosmia
 
> 8. Fever.
 
Pyrexia
 
> 9. Fast breathing.
 
Tachypnea
 
> 10. A mole.
 
Keratoma; Bezoar

> So there were 14 decoys. Decode the rot13 if you'd like to identify
> them for fun, but for no points.
 
> 11. Rkprffvir grrgu tevaqvat naq/be wnj pyrapuvat.
 
Bruxism
 
> 12. Gevzrgulynzvahevn, n pbatravgny zrgnobyvp reebe gung cebqhprf
> n obql bqbe erfrzoyvat gur fzryy bs ebggvat svfu.
 
Fish-odor syndrome
 
> 14. Bhgjneq pheingher bs gur fcvar, pnhfvat n uhzcrq onpx.
 
Kyphosis
 
> 18. Na noabezny naq crefvfgrag srne bs she.
 
Doraphobia
 
> 19. Gur abfgevyf.
 
Nares
 
> 20. N trargvp fxva qvfrnfr punenpgrevmrq ol na noabeznyvgl bs gur
> ubeal ynlre bs gur fxva nebhaq gur unve sbyyvpyrf.
 
Keratoma
 
> 22. N pbaqvgvba punenpgrevmrq ol zngu fxvyyf gung ner fvtavsvpnagyl
> orybj abezny, tvira gur crefba'f ntr, vagryyvtrapr, naq
> rqhpngvba.
 
Mathematics disorder
 
> 24. Orypuvat.
 
Eructation
 
--
Joshua Kreitzer
gromit82@hotmail.com
Erland Sommarskog <esquel@sommarskog.se>: Jul 31 09:45AM +0200


> 1. Who was the British Minister of War from 1914 until 1916, when
> he died when the ship carrying him on a visit to Russia struck
> a mine and sank?
 
Lord Kitchner

> the hundreds of thousands, and ended with a French victory.
> It is named after the town in northeast France whose nearby
> hills hosted the fighting.
 
Verdun

> 3. Who was the Chief of Staff of the French armies until replaced
> at the end of 1916?
 
Joffre

> 4. Name any one of the three prominent German generals who became
> Chief of Staff after the war began.
 
Falkenhayn and Hindenburg are two of them. (I'm right now reading a
book on WWI, but I have not come to the third yet.)

> to 250 warships. In the ensuing battle over 6,000 British
> sailors died compared with about 2,500 Germans; then, during
> the night, the German fleet... fled. Name this battle.
 
Skagerrak

> then Lord of the Admiralty, described the admiral who allowed
> the Germans to escape as as "the only man on either side who
> could lose the war in an afternoon." Which admiral?
 
Beatty

> nsgre na vyy-pbaprvirq Oevgvfu beqre gb nqinapr bire rkcbfrq
> tebhaq gbjneq Trezna gerapurf? Gur arkg qnl, srjre guna bar
> zna va gra jnf cerfrag sbe ebyy pnyy.
 
Canada (I have not come to this battle yet in the book.)
 
 
> 9. The Military Service Act of January 1916 introduced conscription
> to the United Kingdom. To which part of the UK did the Act
> not apply?
 
Ireland

 
--
Erland Sommarskog, Stockholm, esquel@sommarskog.se
Dan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com>: Jul 31 01:11AM -0700

Mark Brader wrote:
> the hundreds of thousands, and ended with a French victory.
> It is named after the town in northeast France whose nearby
> hills hosted the fighting.
 
The Somme
 
> to 250 warships. In the ensuing battle over 6,000 British
> sailors died compared with about 2,500 Germans; then, during
> the night, the German fleet... fled. Name this battle.
 
Battle of Jutland
 
> nsgre na vyy-pbaprvirq Oevgvfu beqre gb nqinapr bire rkcbfrq
> tebhaq gbjneq Trezna gerapurf? Gur arkg qnl, srjre guna bar
> zna va gra jnf cerfrag sbe ebyy pnyy.
 
Canada
 
 
> 8. What new method of attack was first used during the Battle of
> the Somme? It did not give the decisive advantage hoped for
> at the time, but became immensely important during World War II.
 
combined armor and infantry
 
 
> 9. The Military Service Act of January 1916 introduced conscription
> to the United Kingdom. To which part of the UK did the Act
> not apply?
 
Scotland
 
 
> pick the alternative term that doctors use when they want to
> impress you.
 
> 1. Hiccups.
 
eructation
 
> 2. A callus.
 
keratoma
 
> 3. Urination.
 
micturation
 
> 4. Muscle twitch.
 
fasciculation
 
> 5. Baldness or hair loss.
 
alopecia
 
> 6. Age spot or liver spot.
 
lentigo senilis
 
> 7. Lack of the sense of smell.
 
asnomia
 
> 8. Fever.
 
pyrexia
 
> 9. Fast breathing.
 
tachypnea
 
> 10. A mole.
 
nares
 
 
--
Dan Tilque
Jason Kreitzer <jk71875@gmail.com>: Jul 31 01:21AM -0700

On Saturday, July 30, 2016 at 11:18:57 PM UTC-4, Mark Brader wrote:
 
> 8. What new method of attack was first used during the Battle of
> the Somme? It did not give the decisive advantage hoped for
> at the time, but became immensely important during World War II.
Arial
> 9. The Military Service Act of January 1916 introduced conscription
> to the United Kingdom. To which part of the UK did the Act
> not apply?
Northern Ireland?
 
> pick the alternative term that doctors use when they want to
> impress you.
 
> 1. Hiccups.
Anosmia?
> 2. A callus.
Icterus?
> 3. Urination.
Eructation?
> 4. Muscle twitch.
Bezoar?
> 5. Baldness or hair loss.
Alopecia
> 6. Age spot or liver spot.
Nevus?
> 7. Lack of the sense of smell.
Bruxism?
> 8. Fever.
Pyrexia?
> 9. Fast breathing.
Micturition?
> 10. A mole.
Cachexia?
msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Jul 30 10:20PM -0500

Mark Brader:
> that were correct on that date... For further information see
> my 2016-05-31 companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian
> Inquisition (QFTCI*)".
 
So far the current-events game is neck-and-neck. It will be decided
the first week of August.
 
 
 
> 1. Canada gained a UNESCO World Heritage Site last week, so
> designated because of its collection of fossils, some in excess
> of 500,000,000 years old. In which province is it located?
 
Newfoundland and Labrador. ("Newfoundland" was sufficient. The site
is called Mistaken Point.)
 
> ["KAN-deal"] Baloch was murdered, apparently strangled by
> her own brother in a so-called honour killing because of her
> provocative online persona. In what country did this occur?
 
Pakistan. 4 for Joshua, Erland, Dan Blum, Peter, Marc, and Pete.
 
> 3. Many qualities win competitions: talent, perseverance, and luck
> among them, but what did Will Power win last Sunday? -- Yeah,
> Will Power is the dude's name. Tell us what he won.
 
Honda Indy Toronto. ("Indy" with either of the other words was
sufficient.)
 
> 4. What form of payment did the three Wal-Mart stores in Thunder
> Bay stop accepting last week, with a threat from the company
> to extend the ban country-wide? Be specific.
 
Visa.
 
> people trying to fly airplanes. Two pilots from which airline
> were arrested last week in Glasgow on suspicion of being
> intoxicated, just before their flight was set to take off?
 
Air Transat.
 
> government last week carried out a purge of supposed followers
> of what Muslim cleric, who it is also demanding be extradited
> from the US?
 
Fethullah Gülen ["Fet-HOO-luh Goo-LAHN"]. 4 for Erland and Dan Blum.
 
> 7. Who is the well-known writer, film director, and TV producer,
> among his other talents, who died last week at age 81?
 
Garry Marshall. 4 for Joshua, Dan Blum, Marc, Jason, and Pete.
 
> 8. Name the Canadian scientist, metallurgist, anti-nuclear activist,
> author, and educator who died last Friday at age 94.
 
Ursula Franklin.
 
> grief for his parents after pictures of him doing *what* were
> released last week? (In response, of course. the Twitter-verse
> did what it does.) Be specific.
 
Feeding ice cream to a dog. 4 for Peter.
 
> 10. Last week it was Hillary Clinton's turn to name a vice-
> presidential minion -- er, running mate. Who did she pick?
 
Tim Kaine. 4 for Joshua, Dan Blum, Peter, Marc, Jason, Dan Tilque,
and Pete. 3 for Erland.
 
 
Scores, if there are no errors:
 
GAMES-> 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 BEST EIGHT
Pete Gayde 16 14 15 4 24 12 16 24 20 12 141
Joshua Kreitzer 16 8 12 4 20 16 20 20 24 12 140
Dan Blum 16 23 11 0 -- -- 12 24 12 16 114
Peter Smyth 12 4 12 4 23 0 8 20 20 12 111
Erland Sommarskog 4 8 20 0 16 8 16 12 12 11 103
Dan Tilque 12 12 16 0 8 4 8 20 8 4 88
Marc Dashevsky 8 12 -- -- -- -- 16 20 8 12 76
Jason Kreitzer 12 8 -- -- -- -- 8 4 12 8 52
Bruce Bowler -- -- 12 0 20 16 -- -- -- -- 48
Stephen Perry -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 40 -- 40
"Joe" -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 12 -- 12
 
--
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msb@vex.net | --Yakima, WA, Herald-Republic, 2001-08-26
 
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"Björn Lundin" <b.f.lundin@gmail.com>: Jul 30 09:51PM +0200

On 2016-07-28 05:34, Mark Brader wrote:
> How does Scrooge explain away the situation when the first
> visitor asks why he doubts his senses?
 
> 2. Who is that first supernatural visitor?
 
ghost
 
> rot13 for the next two. Jung jnf Zneyrl'f pbaarpgvba jvgu
> Fpebbtr?
 
> 4. Jung cnvashyyl urnil bowrpg qbrf Zneyrl'f tubfg unir gb jrne?
 
Ball and chain?
 
> donation on behalf of the poor and destitute. He explains that
> he sees no need of such charity, because of four things that
> already exist. Name *any one* of them.
 
coal for heating?
 
 
> 8. What present does Scrooge give <answer 7> on Christmas Day?
 
a piece of coal ?
 
 
> merry Christmas and he replies with the words "Bah! Humbug!"
> Which relative? Give either the relationship or the relative's
> first name.
 
nephew
 
 
> 1. While Ali was still known as Cassius Clay, and before he turned
> pro, he won gold at the Olympics. Either name the city where
> he won, or the weight class of the event.
 
heavyweight
 
> butterfly" line, and the first time he captured the heavyweight
> championship belt. How many times in total did he gain the
> title? (Defending it while already champion does not count.)
 
4;3
 
 
> 3. Shortly after beating Liston, Clay confirmed that he had joined
> the Nation of Islam, and changed his name to *what*, before
> changing it again to Muhammad Ali a bit later?
 
Muhammar Ali
 
> became known as "The Fight of the Century". Either give the
> venue, or name Ali's opponent in the bout, who was the world
> champion at the time.
 
Holyfield
 
> "Rumble in the Jungle", using a method he called "Rope a Dope".
> Either name his opponent--the "dope"--or give the *current name*
> of the country where the fight took place.
 
Congo-Kinshasa ; Congo Republic
 
> considered to be one of the most brutal fights in modern boxing
> history, when Ali and Frazier met for the third and final time.
> How many rounds did the fight last?
 
10;11
 
> December 1981. In his 61 professional bouts, he finished with
> a record of 56-5. Within 2 on either side, how many of his 56
> victories were by knockout?
 
42;36
 
 
 
--
--
Björn
msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Jul 30 10:16PM -0500

Mark Brader:
> see my 2016-05-31 companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian
> Inquisition (QFTCI*)".
 
 
> I wrote one of these rounds.
 
That was the literature round.
 
> visitors. But at first he doesn't believe in any such thing.
> How does Scrooge explain away the situation when the first
> visitor asks why he doubts his senses?
 
Indigestion. (Anything along these lines was acceptable.)
4 for Dan Blum and Pete.
 
"Because a little thing affects them. A slight disorder of the
stomach makes them cheats. You may be an undigested bit of beef, a
blot of mustard, a crumb of cheese, a fragment of an underdone potato.
There's more of gravy than of grave about you, whatever you are!"
 
> 2. Who is that first supernatural visitor?
 
The ghost of Jacob Marley. 4 for Dan Blum, Joshua, Calvin, Peter,
Dan Tilque, Jason, and Pete.
 
> 3. Please complete the first two questions before decoding the
> rot13 for the next two. What was Marley's connection with
> Scrooge?
 
They were business partners and then Scrooge was Marley's heir.
(Either part was sufficient. The inheritance included Marley's share
of the business, by the way.) 4 for Dan Blum, Joshua, Calvin, Peter,
Dan Tilque, and Pete.
 
> 4. What painfully heavy object does Marley's ghost have to wear?
 
"The chain I forged in life." ("Chain" was sufficient.) 4 for
Dan Blum, Joshua, Peter, and Pete. 3 for Björn.
 
> 5. Give the correct name of the *last* of the supernatural visitors.
 
The Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come. Exact answer required.
4 for Joshua, Dan Tilque, and Jason.
 
Or maybe: http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWXwyFSWwAA8XK_.jpg
 
> donation on behalf of the poor and destitute. He explains that
> he sees no need of such charity, because of four things that
> already exist. Name *any one* of them.
 
The prisons, the workhouses, the treadmill, the Poor Law.
Any reference along these lines was sufficient. 4 for Dan Blum,
Joshua, and Pete. 3 for Calvin and Peter.
 
> 7. Give the first and last name of Ebenezer Scrooge's clerk (or
> as he would pronounce it, "clark").
 
Bob Cratchit. 4 for Dan Blum, Joshua, Peter, Dan Tilque, Marc,
Jason, and Pete.
 
> 8. What present does Scrooge give <answer 7> on Christmas Day?
 
The prize turkey that was hanging in the window of a local shop.
("Turkey" was sufficient.) 4 for Joshua.
 
Fortunately the shopkeeper was not taking Christmas Day off, otherwise
Scrooge could not have bought the turkey!
 
> merry Christmas and he replies with the words "Bah! Humbug!"
> Which relative? Give either the relationship or the relative's
> first name.
 
His nephew, Fred. 4 for Dan Blum, Joshua (the hard way), Pete,
and Björn.
 
> 10. Because the story is called "A Christmas Carol", its sections
> are not called chapters or parts; what term related to music
> notation is used instead?
 
Staves. (I'm generously accepting "staffs", the term we'd use.)
4 for Joshua.
 
 
 
> 1. While Ali was still known as Cassius Clay, and before he turned
> pro, he won gold at the Olympics. Either name the city where
> he won, or the weight class of the event.
 
Rome, light heavyweight. 4 for Joshua, Calvin, Peter, Dan Tilque,
Marc, and Pete.
 
> butterfly" line, and the first time he captured the heavyweight
> championship belt. How many times in total did he gain the
> title? (Defending it while already champion does not count.)
 
3. (It's still the record.) 4 for Dan Blum, Joshua, Calvin, Erland,
Peter, Dan Tilque, Marc, and Pete. 2 for Björn.
 
> 3. Shortly after beating Liston, Clay confirmed that he had joined
> the Nation of Islam, and changed his name to *what*, before
> changing it again to Muhammad Ali a bit later?
 
Cassius X Clay. (Accepting Cassius X.) 4 for Joshua.
 
In the original game we expected the answer Cassius X, but some
players thought the answer was Muhammad X, so we had to rule on
a protest. A few Internet sources can be found to support this
latter answer, but they seem to be wrong. I checked several newspaper
reports from 1964 and found some that said his new name was Cassius X,
so I'll continue to accept that answer; but the New York Times not
only said it was Cassius X Clay, it showed an autograph to prove it.
Quite a few news reports of the time simply refused to take the
name change seriously, and you'd see things like "Cassius Clay,
who calls himself Muhammad Ali" written well after the change.
 
> became known as "The Fight of the Century". Either give the
> venue, or name Ali's opponent in the bout, who was the world
> champion at the time.
 
Madison Square Garden, Joe Frazier. 4 for Dan Blum, Joshua, Calvin,
Erland, Peter, Marc, and Pete.
 
> "Rumble in the Jungle", using a method he called "Rope a Dope".
> Either name his opponent--the "dope"--or give the *current name*
> of the country where the fight took place.
 
George Foreman, DR Congo. 4 for Dan Blum, Joshua, Calvin, Erland,
Peter, Dan Tilque, Marc, and Pete. 3 for Björn.
 
> considered to be one of the most brutal fights in modern boxing
> history, when Ali and Frazier met for the third and final time.
> How many rounds did the fight last?
 
14.
 
(Frazier's trainer refused to let him come out for the 15th.
After the fight, Ali said, "This must be what death feels like.")
 
> 7. 1978 marked a period where the Champ lost the world title in
> February, and regained it 7 months later. Both fights went the
> full 15 rounds. Name the man who was his opponent both times.
 
Leon Spinks. 4 for Calvin, Marc, and Pete.
 
> 8. Ali came out of retirement in October 1980, in an ill-conceived
> attempt at a fourth world title. This marked the only time Ali
> was knocked out in his professional career. Name his opponent.
 
Larry Holmes. 4 for Joshua, Calvin, Peter, and Pete.
 
> December 1981. In his 61 professional bouts, he finished with
> a record of 56-5. Within 2 on either side, how many of his 56
> victories were by knockout?
 
37 (accepting 35-39). 4 for Erland. 3 for Pete. 2 for Dan Blum
and Björn.
 
> major religion, as well as friends and family. The keynote
> eulogy, the last of about a dozen such tributes, was delivered
> by who?
 
Bill Clinton. ("Clinton" was sufficient.) 4 for Joshua and Calvin.
 
 
Scores, if there are no errors:
 
GAME 4 ROUNDS-> 2 3 4 6 TOTALS
TOPICS-> Ent Mis Lit Spo
Joshua Kreitzer 4 28 36 28 96
Pete Gayde 16 16 28 27 87
Dan Blum 12 28 28 14 82
Stephen Perry 36 40 -- -- 76
Peter Smyth 0 20 19 20 59
Dan Tilque 0 27 16 12 55
Marc Dashevsky 8 12 4 20 44
Bruce Bowler 12 28 -- -- 40
"Calvin" -- -- 11 28 39
Jason Kreitzer 0 12 12 0 24
Björn Lundin 0 4 7 7 18
Erland Sommarskog -- -- 0 16 16
 
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Saturday, July 30, 2016

Digest for rec.games.trivia@googlegroups.com - 6 updates in 4 topics

Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com>: Jul 29 01:25PM +0100

>> set RQ #226.
 
> Gareth has at least posted once since Dan posted the results, so he cannot
> give "on vacation" as his sole excuse.
 
I didn't register I'd won. And, FWIW, I got back from my vacation about
20 minutes ago. I'll post something in the next 24 hours.
Erland Sommarskog <esquel@sommarskog.se>: Jul 29 10:48PM +0200

> I didn't register I'd won. And, FWIW, I got back from my vacation about
> 20 minutes ago.
 
Welcome home! We appreciate your priorities in your home-coming
procedures. :-)
 
 
 
--
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Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com>: Jul 29 04:09PM +0100


> 1 According to the Internet Movie Database (among others) which
> character from the 1999 film "The Phantom Menace" is the dumbest in
> movie history?
 
Jar Jar Binks
 
> 2 In which field event is the world record currently 74.08 metres
> (men) and 76.80 metres (women)?
 
Javelin
 
> 3 Which African country is quite literally named "Lion Mountain"?
 
Sierra Leone
 
> 4 Which of Beethoven's nine symphonies is nicknamed the "choral"?
 
(picks number at random - discarding 5) 7th??
 
> 5 The Tim Hortons fast food restaurant chain is based in which
> country?
 
Canada
 
> 6 Which Shakespeare play opens with the line "If music be the food of
> love, play on…"?
 
Twelfth Night
 
> 7 If a dish is served Florentine which vegetable will it contain?
 
Potato
 
> 8 Who rules in a plutocracy?
 
The wealthy
 
> 9 Though better known as a singer, who played the lead role in the
> 1988 film 'Buster', loosely based on the Great Train Robbery of 1963?
 
Phil Collins
 
> 10 Andy Fletcher, Dave Gahan, Martin Gore and Alan Wilder were members
> of which English electronic band formed in 1980?
 
Depeche Mode
Pete <pagrsg@wowway.com>: Jul 29 07:49PM

Calvin <334152@gmail.com> wrote in
 
> 1 According to the Internet Movie Database (among others) which
> character from the 1999 film "The Phantom Menace" is the dumbest in
> movie history?
 
Jar Jar Binks
 
> 2 In which field event is the world record
> currently 74.08 metres (men) and 76.80 metres (women)?
 
Hammer throw
 
> 3 Which
> African country is quite literally named "Lion Mountain"?
 
Sierra Leone
 
> 4 Which of Beethoven's nine symphonies is nicknamed the "choral"?
 
9th
 
> 5 The
> Tim Hortons fast food restaurant chain is based in which country?
 
Canada
 
> food of love, play on…"?
> 7 If a dish is served Florentine which
> vegetable will it contain?
 
Broccoli
 
> members of which English electronic band formed in 1980?
 
> cheers,
> calvin
 
Pete Gayde
Pete <pagrsg@wowway.com>: Jul 29 07:43PM

msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote in news:O9CdnRBj2MiBHgTKnZ2dnUU7-
 
> 1. Canada gained a UNESCO World Heritage Site last week, so
> designated because of its collection of fossils, some in excess
> of 500,000,000 years old. In which province is it located?
 
Alberta; Yukon
 
> ["KAN-deal"] Baloch was murdered, apparently strangled by
> her own brother in a so-called honour killing because of her
> provocative online persona. In what country did this occur?
 
Pakistan
 
 
> 4. What form of payment did the three Wal-Mart stores in Thunder
> Bay stop accepting last week, with a threat from the company
> to extend the ban country-wide? Be specific.
 
Personal checks
 
> people trying to fly airplanes. Two pilots from which airline
> were arrested last week in Glasgow on suspicion of being
> intoxicated, just before their flight was set to take off?
 
Ryan Air
 
> from the US?
 
> 7. Who is the well-known writer, film director, and TV producer,
> among his other talents, who died last week at age 81?
 
Marshall
 
> did what it does.) Be specific.
 
> 10. Last week it was Hillary Clinton's turn to name a vice-
> presidential minion -- er, running mate. Who did she pick?
 
Kaine
 
 
Pete Gayde
msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Jul 29 02:42PM -0500

Mark Brader:
> > * Game 4, Round 2, on podcasts, was the 3rd-hardest of the season,
> > or 2nd-hardest of the ones being posted here.

Björn Lundin:
> Meaning a really difficult one is coming up?
 
(Evil grin)
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Friday, July 29, 2016

The Frontstretch Newsletter: Paul Menard Quickest as Pocono Action Begins

THE FRONTSTRETCH NEWSLETTER
Presented by Frontstretch.com
The Best Seat at the Track, The Best View on the Net!
Jul. 29, 2016
Volume X, Edition CXXVII

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What to Watch: Friday


- Today, Sprint Cup and Camping World Truck Series teams get out on track for practice and (for Sprint Cup) qualifying at Pocono Raceway.  Meanwhile, the Verizon IndyCar Series has practice at Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course ahead of Sunday's Honda Indy 200 at Mid-Ohio.

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Top News
by The Frontstretch Staff

Paul Menard Wins Opening Pocono Practice

Richard Childress Racing's Paul Menard was quickest in opening Sprint Cup Practice at Pocono Raceway with a lap of 50.722 seconds (177.438 mph).  Denny Hamlin was second quickest, followed by Kyle Busch and Carl Edwards.  Kevin Harvick was fifth fastest.  Read more

NASCAR to Implement Chassis Reinforcement at Restrictor Plate Tracks

During the same teleconference Thursday where the Michigan news was announced, NASCAR also announced new chassis reinforcement rules for the restrictor plate races starting next season.  The rules are designed to lessen the likelihood of injuries from head-on impacts.  Read more

Michael Lira, Spencer Boyd Plan XFINITY Series Debuts

Two racers, Michael Lira and Spencer Boyd, will make their XFINITY Series debuts this weekend at Iowa Speedway.  Lira will drive the No. 15 Ford Mustang for BJ McLeod Motorsports, while Boyd will be in the No. 25 Chevrolet Camaro for Rick Ware Racing.  Read more

Spencer Pumpelly to Race for RealTime While Cunningham Tests

Pirelli World Challenge's RealTime Racing announced on Thursday that Spencer Pumpelly will drive for the team in place of Peter Cunningham at Mid-Ohio and Utah Motorsports Campus.  Cunningham is taking a more substantial role in the development of the Acura NSX GT3 chassis.  Read more


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Frontstretch Folio: Pennsylvania 400
by Phil Allaway

This weekend, the Sprint Cup Series makes their second visit of the season to Pocono Raceway in Pennsylvania.  The Pennsylvania 400 can be seen on NBCSN starting at 12 p.m. with NASCAR America Sunday, followed by Countdown to Green. The green flag is scheduled to drop around 1:50 p.m. Sunday afternoon.  The race can also be heard on MRN Radio and SiriusXM NASCAR Radio (Channel 90).

Records and facts

In last year's race, fuel mileage was king in determining who would go to Victory Lane.  Joey Logano led the most laps (97), but ended up finishing 20th.  Matt Kenseth led two laps all day, but he took the lead on the final lap when teammate Kyle Busch ran out of gas and held on to win the Windows 10 400.  Brad Keselowski was nine seconds back in second, followed by Jeff Gordon, Dale Earnhardt, Jr. and Greg Biffle.

Jeff Gordon is the winningest driver in the history of Pocono Raceway with six victories, the most recent coming in the rain-shortened July race in 2012.  Denny Hamlin has the most victories of full-time drivers at Pocono with four.  They include a sweep during his rookie year in 2006.  Bobby Labonte and Jimmie Johnson are tied with three apiece, but Labonte is not entered this weekend.  Dale Earnhardt, Jr., Carl Edwards, Tony Stewart and Kurt Busch each have a pair of Pocono wins.

Behind Gordon on the all-time wins list at Pocono is Bill Elliott with five wins, then you have Hamlin, Darrell Waltrip and Tim Richmond with four each.  Johnson, Bobby Labonte, Geoff Bodine and Bobby Allison have three each.

Track Facts
Track / Race Length: 2.5-mile tri-oval, 160 laps (400 laps)
Banking: 14 degrees in Turn 1, 8 degrees in Turn 2, 6 degrees in Turn 3.
Frontstretch: 3,740 ft., flat

Long Pond Straightaway: 3,055 ft., flat

North Straight: 1,780 ft., flat

Grandstand Seating: 70,000
Pit Road Speed: 55 mph
Pace Car Speed: 65 mph
Opened: 1971 (first Cup race in 1974)

Website: http://www.poconoraceway.com

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/poconoraceway

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Remaining Pre-Race Schedule:

Practice No. 1: Friday, July 29, 11 a.m. - 12:25 p.m. on NBCSN

Qualifying: Friday, July 29 at 4:15 p.m. on NBCSN

Happy Hour: Saturday, July 30, 11 a.m. - 12:20 p.m. on NBCSN

Say What?!

"I thought we had a really good car at Pocono earlier this summer. It was certainly one of our best days of the year I think. I thought for us to be able to contend and lead laps all day and have a car that could fight for the lead the majority of the day was great. I'm hoping we can take what we had and learn from there to try to make it better. I definitely have some things that I learned. Hopefully we can clean it up and try to do the best we can to give ourselves a chance to contend." - Chase Elliott

"Pocono is so unique, you've got three completely different corners and really long straightaways.  Seems like every time we go there the tunnel turn gets faster and faster.  You try and get the best balance for the three corners, but really the one corner that really produces passing is turn three coming onto the longest main straightway and then the braking down into turn one.  I try to be the best I can in three, I don't want to give up time in one and the tunnel, so it's kind of a juggle as to what corner you can get your car really good at." - Greg Biffle

"My favorite corner at Pocono is honestly – it's probably – turn one. You can make up a lot of ground if you're good through there. It comes into a pretty good compression and you can drive off, down into the corner. If the car turns pretty well, you can pick up the throttle really hard. And while I like turn one, the most important corner is probably turn three, leading onto the front straightaway

"It's a neat place, definitely a unique track. It's still a place where I don't have a ton of experience. It's just an odd place to set the car up because the corners are so different. If you are really good in turn one, then maybe two and three are a little off. Or if you're good in three, maybe one and two are different. I will say that the straightaway is enormous. There's a lot of distance between turns three and one." - Danica Patrick

Phil Allaway is the Newsletter Manager and a Senior Writer for Frontstretch.com.  He can be reached via e-mail at ashland10@mail.com.
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TODAY ON FRONTSTRETCH:

by Aaron Bearden and Matt Stallknecht
 
by Zach Catanzareti
 
by Amy Henderson
 
 

Tech Talk: Jason Ratcliff Is Not a Big Fan of NASCAR's Lug Nut Rule
as told to Mike Neff
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FRONTSTRETCH TRIVIA:

Q: The 2005 Pennsylvania 500 was a four-hour race with 13 cautions won by Kurt Busch.  Kasey Kahne was in contention for a great finish until the GWC.  What happened to cost him that finish?

Check back Monday for the answer, here in the Frontstretch Newsletter!

Thursday's Answer:
 
Q: In the 1994 Miller Genuine Draft 500 at Pocono, Geoff Bodine led 156 laps on his way to his first win of the season.  What was notable about this victory and the finishing order?

A: This race was the first win for Hoosier since they returned to Winston Cup at the beginning of the 1994 season.  Hoosier shod entries took the top 4 finishing positions in the race with rookies Ward Burton second, Joe Nemechek third and Jeff Burton fourth.

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Digest for rec.games.trivia@googlegroups.com - 19 updates in 4 topics

msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Jul 29 02:14AM -0500

As the current regular season of the Canadian Inquisition is now complete,
I can inform you of these statistics on the rounds you've already seen here:
 
* Game 2, Round 4, the round on flags with a monochrome handout, was
the easiest in the entire season if bonus points are ignored, and
tied for the easiest if bonus points are counted.
 
* Game 2, Round 6, "Barbs from the Bard", was the 5th-hardest of the
season, or 3rd-hardest of the rounds that are being posted here
(that is, two of the four harder ones were audio rounds).
 
* Game 3, Round 4, the airplane round, was 5th-easiest in the season
if ignoring bonus points, and 3rd-easiest if counting them.
 
* Game 4, Round 2, on podcasts, was the 3rd-hardest of the season,
or 2nd-hardest of the ones being posted here.
 
* Game 7, Round 1, current events, was the easiest round in that game.
 
* Game 8, Round 1, current events, was the easiest round in that game
and the 4th- or 5th-easiest of the season depending on whether bonus
points in other rounds are counted.
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Toronto | -- Kent Paul Dolan
msb@vex.net | "Because it's neither rare nor well done."
| -- Peter Moylan, paraphrasing Ernie Kovacs
 
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"Björn Lundin" <b.f.lundin@gmail.com>: Jul 29 12:20PM +0200

On 2016-07-29 09:14, Mark Brader wrote:
> * Game 4, Round 2, on podcasts, was the 3rd-hardest of the season,
> or 2nd-hardest of the ones being posted here.
 
Meaning a really difficult one is coming up?
 
--
Björn
"Björn Lundin" <b.f.lundin@gmail.com>: Jul 28 06:41PM +0200

On 2016-07-28 07:23, Calvin wrote:
> 1 According to the Internet Movie Database (among others) which character from the 1999 film "The Phantom Menace" is the dumbest in movie history?
Jar-Jar Binks
> 2 In which field event is the world record currently 74.08 metres (men) and 76.80 metres (women)?
Sledge ? (heavy ball with rope, athlete spins 2-3 times and lets go)
> 3 Which African country is quite literally named "Lion Mountain"?
Zimbabwe?
> 4 Which of Beethoven's nine symphonies is nicknamed the "choral"?
the 9th
> 5 The Tim Hortons fast food restaurant chain is based in which country?
Canada
> 6 Which Shakespeare play opens with the line "If music be the food of love, play on…"?
A midsummer night's dream?
> 7 If a dish is served Florentine which vegetable will it contain?
spinach
> 8 Who rules in a plutocracy?
the richest ones
> 9 Though better known as a singer, who played the lead role in the 1988 film 'Buster', loosely based on the Great Train Robbery of 1963?
> 10 Andy Fletcher, Dave Gahan, Martin Gore and Alan Wilder were members of which English electronic band formed in 1980?
Depeche Mode
 
 
--
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Björn
"Peter Smyth" <smythp@gmail.com>: Jul 28 05:58PM

Calvin wrote:
 
 
> 1 According to the Internet Movie Database (among others) which
> character from the 1999 film "The Phantom Menace" is the dumbest in
> movie history?
Jabba the Hutt
> 2 In which field event is the world record currently 74.08 metres
> (men) and 76.80 metres (women)?
Discus
> 3 Which African country is quite literally named "Lion Mountain"?
 
> 4 Which of Beethoven's nine symphonies is nicknamed the "choral"?
9th
> 5 The Tim Hortons fast food restaurant chain is based in which
> country?
Canada
> 6 Which Shakespeare play opens with the line "If music be the food of
> love, play on…"?
 
> 7 If a dish is served Florentine which vegetable will it contain?
Spinach
> 8 Who rules in a plutocracy?
Priests
> 9 Though better known as a singer, who played the lead role in the
> 1988 film 'Buster', loosely based on the Great Train Robbery of 1963?
Roger Daltrey
> 10 Andy Fletcher, Dave Gahan, Martin Gore and Alan Wilder were
> members of which English electronic band formed in 1980?
 
 
Peter Smyth
Marc Dashevsky <usenet@MarcDashevsky.com>: Jul 28 02:45PM -0500

In article <75b238b9-3cd5-47e7-ba32-0768742d9338@googlegroups.com>, 334152@gmail.com says...
 
> 1 According to the Internet Movie Database (among others) which character from the 1999 film "The Phantom Menace" is the dumbest in movie history?
> 2 In which field event is the world record currently 74.08 metres (men) and 76.80 metres (women)?
> 3 Which African country is quite literally named "Lion Mountain"?
Sierra Leone
 
> 4 Which of Beethoven?s nine symphonies is nicknamed the "choral"?
9
 
> 5 The Tim Hortons fast food restaurant chain is based in which country?
Canada
 
> 6 Which Shakespeare play opens with the line ?If music be the food of love, play on???
> 7 If a dish is served Florentine which vegetable will it contain?
spinach
 
> 8 Who rules in a plutocracy?
the rich
 
 
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Dan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com>: Jul 28 01:04PM -0700

Björn Lundin wrote:
> On 2016-07-28 07:23, Calvin wrote:
 
>> 2 In which field event is the world record currently 74.08 metres (men) and 76.80 metres (women)?
> Sledge ? (heavy ball with rope, athlete spins 2-3 times and lets go)
 
That's the hammer throw. Misnamed, of course, since it looks nothing
like a hammer.
 
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Erland Sommarskog <esquel@sommarskog.se>: Jul 28 11:58PM +0200

>> Sledge ? (heavy ball with rope, athlete spins 2-3 times and lets go)
 
> That's the hammer throw. Misnamed, of course, since it looks nothing
> like a hammer.
 
To explain what Björn is talking about - the name of the discipline in
Swedish is "slägga". Compare "sledge-hammer".
 
I will have confess that for this question I permitted myself to look
up the name in the dictionary.
 
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"Björn Lundin" <b.f.lundin@gmail.com>: Jul 29 12:38AM +0200

On 2016-07-28 23:58, Erland Sommarskog wrote:
> Swedish is "slägga". Compare "sledge-hammer".
 
> I will have confess that for this question I permitted myself to look
> up the name in the dictionary.
 
Hammer throw ? Would not have guessed that in a long time.
But yes, that is what I tried to describe.
 
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"Chris F.A. Johnson" <cfajohnson@cfaj.ca>: Jul 29 12:45AM -0400

On 2016-07-28, Calvin wrote:
> 1 According to the Internet Movie Database (among others) which character from the 1999 film "The Phantom Menace" is the dumbest in movie history?
 
Jar-Jar Binks
 
> 2 In which field event is the world record currently 74.08 metres (men) and 76.80 metres (women)?
> 3 Which African country is quite literally named "Lion Mountain"?
 
Sierra Leone
 
> 4 Which of Beethoven???s nine symphonies is nicknamed the "choral"?
 
6th
 
> 5 The Tim Hortons fast food restaurant chain is based in which country?
 
Canada
 
> 6 Which Shakespeare play opens with the line ???If music be the food of love, play on???????
 
Twelfth Night
 
> 7 If a dish is served Florentine which vegetable will it contain?
 
Spinach
 
> 8 Who rules in a plutocracy?
 
The rich
 
 
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"Peter Smyth" <smythp@gmail.com>: Jul 28 05:42PM

Mark Brader wrote:
 
> How does Scrooge explain away the situation when the first
> visitor asks why he doubts his senses?
 
> 2. Who is that first supernatural visitor?
Jacob Marley
> 3. Please complete the first two questions before decoding the
> rot13 for the next two. What was Marley's connection with
> Scrooge?
Business Partner
> 4. What painfully heavy object does Marley's ghost have to wear?
Chains
> 5. Give the correct name of the last of the supernatural visitors.
Ghost of Christmas's To Come
> donation on behalf of the poor and destitute. He explains that
> he sees no need of such charity, because of four things that
> already exist. Name *any one* of them.
Workhouses, Church
> 7. Give the first and last name of Ebenezer Scrooge's clerk (or
> as he would pronounce it, "clark").
Bob Cratchit
 
> 1. While Ali was still known as Cassius Clay, and before he turned
> pro, he won gold at the Olympics. Either name the city where
> he won, or the weight class of the event.
Rome
> butterfly" line, and the first time he captured the heavyweight
> championship belt. How many times in total did he gain the
> title? (Defending it while already champion does not count.)
3
> became known as "The Fight of the Century". Either give the
> venue, or name Ali's opponent in the bout, who was the world
> champion at the time.
Joe Frazier
> "Rumble in the Jungle", using a method he called "Rope a Dope".
> Either name his opponent--the "dope"--or give the *current name*
> of the country where the fight took place.
George Foreman
> considered to be one of the most brutal fights in modern boxing
> history, when Ali and Frazier met for the third and final time.
> How many rounds did the fight last?
15
> 7. 1978 marked a period where the Champ lost the world title in
> February, and regained it 7 months later. Both fights went the
> full 15 rounds. Name the man who was his opponent both times.
Larry Holmes
> 8. Ali came out of retirement in October 1980, in an ill-conceived
> attempt at a fourth world title. This marked the only time Ali
> was knocked out in his professional career. Name his opponent.
Larry Holmes
> December 1981. In his 61 professional bouts, he finished with
> a record of 56-5. Within 2 on either side, how many of his 56
> victories were by knockout?
46
> major religion, as well as friends and family. The keynote
> eulogy, the last of about a dozen such tributes, was delivered
> by who?
Barack Obama
> "New York" on the fourth question, we need the specific arena.
> Go back and name it. And if you said "Congo" for the country on
> the next question, we need you to be more specific there too.
 
Peter Smyth
Dan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com>: Jul 28 01:25PM -0700

Mark Brader wrote:
> visitors. But at first he doesn't believe in any such thing.
> How does Scrooge explain away the situation when the first
> visitor asks why he doubts his senses?
 
it's a dream
 
 
> 2. Who is that first supernatural visitor?
 
ghost of Jacob Marley
 
 
> 3. Please complete the first two questions before decoding the
> rot13 for the next two. Jung jnf Zneyrl'f pbaarpgvba jvgu
> Fpebbtr?
 
former business partner
 
 
> 4. Jung cnvashyyl urnil bowrpg qbrf Zneyrl'f tubfg unir gb jrne?
 
> 5. Give the correct name of the *last* of the supernatural visitors.
 
Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come
 
> already exist. Name *any one* of them.
 
> 7. Give the first and last name of Ebenezer Scrooge's clerk (or
> as he would pronounce it, "clark").
 
Bob Cratchit
 
 
> 1. While Ali was still known as Cassius Clay, and before he turned
> pro, he won gold at the Olympics. Either name the city where
> he won, or the weight class of the event.
 
Rome
 
> butterfly" line, and the first time he captured the heavyweight
> championship belt. How many times in total did he gain the
> title? (Defending it while already champion does not count.)
 
3
 
> "Rumble in the Jungle", using a method he called "Rope a Dope".
> Either name his opponent--the "dope"--or give the *current name*
> of the country where the fight took place.
 
Democratic Republic of the Congo
 
> considered to be one of the most brutal fights in modern boxing
> history, when Ali and Frazier met for the third and final time.
> How many rounds did the fight last?
 
12
 
 
> 7. 1978 marked a period where the Champ lost the world title in
> February, and regained it 7 months later. Both fights went the
> full 15 rounds. Name the man who was his opponent both times.
 
Foreman
 
> major religion, as well as friends and family. The keynote
> eulogy, the last of about a dozen such tributes, was delivered
> by who?
 
Barack Obama
 
 
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Marc Dashevsky <usenet@MarcDashevsky.com>: Jul 28 03:27PM -0500

In article <U5OdnZFe2LbE4ATKnZ2dnUU7-VHNnZ2d@giganews.com>, msb@vex.net says...
> donation on behalf of the poor and destitute. He explains that
> he sees no need of such charity, because of four things that
> already exist. Name *any one* of them.
church
 
> 7. Give the first and last name of Ebenezer Scrooge's clerk (or
> as he would pronounce it, "clark").
Bob Cratchit
 
 
> 1. While Ali was still known as Cassius Clay, and before he turned
> pro, he won gold at the Olympics. Either name the city where
> he won, or the weight class of the event.
light heavyweight
 
> butterfly" line, and the first time he captured the heavyweight
> championship belt. How many times in total did he gain the
> title? (Defending it while already champion does not count.)
3
 
> became known as "The Fight of the Century". Either give the
> venue, or name Ali's opponent in the bout, who was the world
> champion at the time.
Joe Frazier
 
> "Rumble in the Jungle", using a method he called "Rope a Dope".
> Either name his opponent--the "dope"--or give the *current name*
> of the country where the fight took place.
Democratic Republic of the Congo
 
> considered to be one of the most brutal fights in modern boxing
> history, when Ali and Frazier met for the third and final time.
> How many rounds did the fight last?
15
 
> 7. 1978 marked a period where the Champ lost the world title in
> February, and regained it 7 months later. Both fights went the
> full 15 rounds. Name the man who was his opponent both times.
Leon Spinks
 
> December 1981. In his 61 professional bouts, he finished with
> a record of 56-5. Within 2 on either side, how many of his 56
> victories were by knockout?
11
 
 
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Jason Kreitzer <jk71875@gmail.com>: Jul 28 02:35PM -0700

On Wednesday, July 27, 2016 at 11:34:55 PM UTC-4, Mark Brader wrote:
> How does Scrooge explain away the situation when the first
> visitor asks why he doubts his senses?
 
> 2. Who is that first supernatural visitor?
Jacob Marley
> Fpebbtr?
 
> 4. Jung cnvashyyl urnil bowrpg qbrf Zneyrl'f tubfg unir gb jrne?
 
> 5. Give the correct name of the *last* of the supernatural visitors.
Ghost of Christmas Yet To Come
> already exist. Name *any one* of them.
 
> 7. Give the first and last name of Ebenezer Scrooge's clerk (or
> as he would pronounce it, "clark").
Bob Cratchit
> butterfly" line, and the first time he captured the heavyweight
> championship belt. How many times in total did he gain the
> title? (Defending it while already champion does not count.)
4
> became known as "The Fight of the Century". Either give the
> venue, or name Ali's opponent in the bout, who was the world
> champion at the time.
George Foreman?
> "Rumble in the Jungle", using a method he called "Rope a Dope".
> Either name his opponent--the "dope"--or give the *current name*
> of the country where the fight took place.
Republic of the Congo?
Pete <pagrsg@wowway.com>: Jul 29 04:03AM

msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote in news:U5OdnZFe2LbE4ATKnZ2dnUU7-
> visitors. But at first he doesn't believe in any such thing.
> How does Scrooge explain away the situation when the first
> visitor asks why he doubts his senses?
 
Indigestion
 
 
> 2. Who is that first supernatural visitor?
 
Jacob Marley
 
 
> 3. Please complete the first two questions before decoding the
> rot13 for the next two. Jung jnf Zneyrl'f pbaarpgvba jvgu
> Fpebbtr?
 
Business partner
 
 
> 4. Jung cnvashyyl urnil bowrpg qbrf Zneyrl'f tubfg unir gb jrne?
 
Chains
 
 
> 5. Give the correct name of the *last* of the supernatural visitors.
 
Ghost of Christmas to Come
 
> donation on behalf of the poor and destitute. He explains that
> he sees no need of such charity, because of four things that
> already exist. Name *any one* of them.
 
Poor houses
 
 
> 7. Give the first and last name of Ebenezer Scrooge's clerk (or
> as he would pronounce it, "clark").
 
Bob Cratchit
 
 
> 8. What present does Scrooge give <answer 7> on Christmas Day?
 
Goose
 
> merry Christmas and he replies with the words "Bah! Humbug!"
> Which relative? Give either the relationship or the relative's
> first name.
 
Nephew
 
 
> 10. Because the story is called "A Christmas Carol", its sections
> are not called chapters or parts; what term related to music
> notation is used instead?
 
Notes
 
 
> 1. While Ali was still known as Cassius Clay, and before he turned
> pro, he won gold at the Olympics. Either name the city where
> he won, or the weight class of the event.
 
Rome
 
> butterfly" line, and the first time he captured the heavyweight
> championship belt. How many times in total did he gain the
> title? (Defending it while already champion does not count.)
 
3
 
> became known as "The Fight of the Century". Either give the
> venue, or name Ali's opponent in the bout, who was the world
> champion at the time.
 
Joe Frazier
 
> "Rumble in the Jungle", using a method he called "Rope a Dope".
> Either name his opponent--the "dope"--or give the *current name*
> of the country where the fight took place.
 
George Foreman
 
> considered to be one of the most brutal fights in modern boxing
> history, when Ali and Frazier met for the third and final time.
> How many rounds did the fight last?
 
10; 9
 
 
> 7. 1978 marked a period where the Champ lost the world title in
> February, and regained it 7 months later. Both fights went the
> full 15 rounds. Name the man who was his opponent both times.
 
Leon Spinks
 
 
> 8. Ali came out of retirement in October 1980, in an ill-conceived
> attempt at a fourth world title. This marked the only time Ali
> was knocked out in his professional career. Name his opponent.
 
Larry Holmes
 
> December 1981. In his 61 professional bouts, he finished with
> a record of 56-5. Within 2 on either side, how many of his 56
> victories were by knockout?
 
35; 40
 
> major religion, as well as friends and family. The keynote
> eulogy, the last of about a dozen such tributes, was delivered
> by who?
 
Billy Crystal
 
> "Arj Lbex" ba gur sbhegu dhrfgvba, jr arrq gur fcrpvsvp neran.
> Tb onpx naq anzr vg. Naq vs lbh fnvq "Pbatb" sbe gur pbhagel ba
> gur arkg dhrfgvba, jr arrq lbh gb or zber fcrpvsvp gurer gbb.
 
Pete Gayde
tool@panix.com (Dan Blum): Jul 28 12:41PM


> 1. Canada gained a UNESCO World Heritage Site last week, so
> designated because of its collection of fossils, some in excess
> of 500,000,000 years old. In which province is it located?
 
Alberta; Manitoba
 
I assume it's the Burgess Shale, but I don't remember where that is.
 
> ["KAN-deal"] Baloch was murdered, apparently strangled by
> her own brother in a so-called honour killing because of her
> provocative online persona. In what country did this occur?
 
Pakistan
 
> 4. What form of payment did the three Wal-Mart stores in Thunder
> Bay stop accepting last week, with a threat from the company
> to extend the ban country-wide? Be specific.
 
personal checks; beaver pelts
 
> people trying to fly airplanes. Two pilots from which airline
> were arrested last week in Glasgow on suspicion of being
> intoxicated, just before their flight was set to take off?
 
Ryanair; British Air
 
> government last week carried out a purge of supposed followers
> of what Muslim cleric, who it is also demanding be extradited
> from the US?
 
Gulen
 
> 7. Who is the well-known writer, film director, and TV producer,
> among his other talents, who died last week at age 81?
 
Garry Marshall
 
> 10. Last week it was Hillary Clinton's turn to name a vice-
> presidential minion -- er, running mate. Who did she pick?
 
Tim Kaine
 
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"Peter Smyth" <smythp@gmail.com>: Jul 28 05:28PM

Mark Brader wrote:
 
 
> 1. Canada gained a UNESCO World Heritage Site last week, so
> designated because of its collection of fossils, some in excess
> of 500,000,000 years old. In which province is it located?
Alberta, British Columbia
> ["KAN-deal"] Baloch was murdered, apparently strangled by
> her own brother in a so-called honour killing because of her
> provocative online persona. In what country did this occur?
Pakistan
> 3. Many qualities win competitions: talent, perseverance, and luck
> among them, but what did Will Power win last Sunday? -- Yeah,
> Will Power is the dude's name. Tell us what he won.
Indy 500
> 4. What form of payment did the three Wal-Mart stores in Thunder
> Bay stop accepting last week, with a threat from the company
> to extend the ban country-wide? Be specific.
American Express
> people trying to fly airplanes. Two pilots from which airline
> were arrested last week in Glasgow on suspicion of being
> intoxicated, just before their flight was set to take off?
Ryanair
> grief for his parents after pictures of him doing what were
> released last week? (In response, of course. the Twitter-verse
> did what it does.) Be specific.
Feeding icecream to a dog
> 10. Last week it was Hillary Clinton's turn to name a vice-
> presidential minion -- er, running mate. Who did she pick?
Tim Kaine
 
Peter Smyth
Marc Dashevsky <usenet@MarcDashevsky.com>: Jul 28 03:40PM -0500

In article <O9CdnRBj2MiBHgTKnZ2dnUU7-QvNnZ2d@giganews.com>, msb@vex.net says...
 
> 1. Canada gained a UNESCO World Heritage Site last week, so
> designated because of its collection of fossils, some in excess
> of 500,000,000 years old. In which province is it located?
Saskatchewan
 
> ["KAN-deal"] Baloch was murdered, apparently strangled by
> her own brother in a so-called honour killing because of her
> provocative online persona. In what country did this occur?
Pakistan
 
> 3. Many qualities win competitions: talent, perseverance, and luck
> among them, but what did Will Power win last Sunday? -- Yeah,
> Will Power is the dude's name. Tell us what he won.
a golf championship
 
> from the US?
 
> 7. Who is the well-known writer, film director, and TV producer,
> among his other talents, who died last week at age 81?
Garry Marshall
 
> did what it does.) Be specific.
 
> 10. Last week it was Hillary Clinton's turn to name a vice-
> presidential minion -- er, running mate. Who did she pick?
Tim Kaine
 
 
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Jason Kreitzer <jk71875@gmail.com>: Jul 28 02:36PM -0700

On Wednesday, July 27, 2016 at 11:59:30 PM UTC-4, Mark Brader wrote:
> from the US?
 
> 7. Who is the well-known writer, film director, and TV producer,
> among his other talents, who died last week at age 81?
Garry Marshall
> did what it does.) Be specific.
 
> 10. Last week it was Hillary Clinton's turn to name a vice-
> presidential minion -- er, running mate. Who did she pick?
Tim Kaine
Dan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com>: Jul 28 04:03PM -0700

Mark Brader wrote:
 
> 1. Canada gained a UNESCO World Heritage Site last week, so
> designated because of its collection of fossils, some in excess
> of 500,000,000 years old. In which province is it located?
 
British Columbia
 
> ["KAN-deal"] Baloch was murdered, apparently strangled by
> her own brother in a so-called honour killing because of her
> provocative online persona. In what country did this occur?
 
India
 
 
> 4. What form of payment did the three Wal-Mart stores in Thunder
> Bay stop accepting last week, with a threat from the company
> to extend the ban country-wide? Be specific.
 
public assistance (the Canadian equivalent of food stamps, whatever
that's called)
 
> did what it does.) Be specific.
 
> 10. Last week it was Hillary Clinton's turn to name a vice-
> presidential minion -- er, running mate. Who did she pick?
 
Kaine
 
 
 
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