Thursday, June 30, 2016

The Frontstretch Newsletter: Townley and Gallagher Fined; Daytona Practice Begins

THE FRONTSTRETCH NEWSLETTER
Presented by Frontstretch.com
The Best Seat at the Track, The Best View on the Net!
Jun. 30, 2016
Volume X, Edition CVI
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What to Watch: Thursday
 
- Today is practice day at Daytona International Speedway for both the Sprint Cup and XFINITY Series.  Expect everyone to go out in the first session, while the second will see roughly half the field (if that) go out in mainly single-car runs.

- In addition, today is the first day of practice at Watkins Glen International for the Sahlen's Six Hours weekend.  We'll have recaps later today, in addition to any other news that breaks on Frontstretch.

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Thursday's TV Schedule can be found here.

Top News
by the Frontstretch Staff

Fines, But No Suspensions for John Wes Townley, Spencer Gallagher

On Wednesday, NASCAR issued their weekly penalty report.  No graded penalties were issued, but John Wes Townley ($15,000) and Spencer Gallagher ($12,500) were both fined and placed on probation for the rest of 2016 for their roles in Saturday night's physical altercation at Gateway.  Read more

Stewart Friesen to Attempt Truck Debut at Eldora

Area Auto Racing News is reporting that Super DIRTcar Series regular Stewart Friesen will attempt his Camping World Truck Series debut at Eldora Speedway on Jul. 20.  Friesen will race for Halmar Racing, his normal race team in the Super DIRTcar Series.  Read more

Have news for the Frontstretch? Don't hesitate to let us know; email us at phil.allaway@frontstretch.com with a promising lead or tip.

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Editor's Note: Potts' Shots Will Return Next Week.
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The Critic's Annex: Finishing Off Sonoma, Gateway, and FOX's NASCAR Season
by Phil Allaway

Last weekend's broadcasts had two standout stories: the John Wes Townley - Spencer Gallagher scrap and Tony Stewart winning at Sonoma.  I've already covered those two stories in detail on Tuesday at Frontstretch.  I won't really be touching on them here, but I will say this much: I'm on the fence on FOX Sports getting Jim Ross to add his commentary to the fracas.

Yes, it's better than just splicing audio from (insert WWE Pay-Per-View here), but NASCAR has battled for years a stigma that compares them to pro wrestling.  I wouldn't have made the move that quick.  Guess FOX Sports wanted it to go viral.  Also of note, Ross referred to Townley as a "smark," or "smart mark."  That is the sign of someone that would be a big wrestling fan, but also someone who understands the inner workings behind kayfabe (the reality that is being presented).  Interesting.

Also on Saturday night, the primary pre-race feature was a "Where are they now?" piece where Ray Dunlap caught up with Ron Hornaday.  It's been two years since Hornaday raced, but none of that was his fault.  His career prematurely ended due to the Steve Turner - Harry Scott, Jr. business relationship collapsing in 2014.  At the time, Hornaday's No. 30 was shut down despite having full sponsorship for the rest of the season.  It was a real Bush League way to effectively end someone's career, a reason why Hornaday stated that he isn't really retired.  He never did.  People just stopped calling, which is a shame.

Today, Hornaday is building UMP-style Dirt Modifieds (as opposed to the Northeast-style DIRTcar Modifieds that I'm used to covering on a regular basis here in New York) and fielding a car for his grandson.  Hornaday had always been a hands-on racer, so he views this endeavor as getting back to his roots.  I'm happy that he seems to be having fun with this new venture, but that wasn't my biggest takeaway from the piece.

During the conversation with Dunlap, Hornaday revealed that he basically didn't see his own family on a regular basis for something like four years when he first drove for Dale Earnhardt, Inc.  It was something like 1999 before Hornaday moved his family to North Carolina as he was already established out in California.  That must have been an incredibly frustrating experience for Hornaday.  Granted, he was very successful, but very lonely at the same time.  That's probably part of the reason why he was so willing to take people in.

Let's move on to the Cup broadcast from Sunday.  Here, pre-race coverage had a couple of interesting pieces that I did not have time to note.

One of them was a one-on-one segment where Danielle Trotta interviewed Sherry Pollex at a winery.  Here, the discussion was centered upon Pollex's battle with ovarian cancer and a recent decision to ditch her wigs.  Pollex views the latter choice as an empowering move, as to say, "yeah, this is me now, get used to it."

Pollex's entire battle against cancer has been an empowering experience and this piece was no exception.  It was nowhere near as sad as previous interviews with her have been.  Today, she's feeling upbeat and positive.  It shows.

Second, Ryan Blaney took viewers to the Ford Performance Center, where he did some time in the official simulator in order to prepare for Sonoma.  In all honesty, this piece of machinery is impressive.  My understanding is that it costs approximately $3 million but has everything you could possibly want in a testing apparatus.  Definitely not cheap to practice on though....

With last weekend in the books, the FOX season is now over and probably not a minute too soon for some of you.  I have a few concluding thoughts.  One: the cheerleading has to stop now.  It's getting ridiculous and makes the whole sport look bad.  Let Mike Joy do his dang job for once.  He's the play-by-play commentator and by extension, the man in charge of the booth.  Darrell Waltrip needs to stop thinking that he's running the show; in reality, he's not even the most well-known analyst in the booth anymore.  The broadcast is not about you, DW... it's about the racing.

Jeff Gordon did well in his first year working the booth.  However, his Hendrick Motorsports ties are evident throughout his race-long analysis.  If we have another situation like Pocono with the hip checking, what Gordon needs to do is explain how he got his information.  If it comes from Hendrick Motorsports, he has to be transparent about that.  Otherwise, accusations of bias will follow suit.  This issue has been an ongoing problem with the Waltrips for years and Gordon has been tagged by association.  It bites for Gordon, for sure but he has to be a little careful.  Gordon doesn't have to stay away from any topics (other than the ones that FOX Sports mandates) just because Brad Keselowski got upset.

Phil Allaway is the Newsletter Manager and a Senior Writer for Frontstretch.com.  He can be reached via e-mail at ashland10@mail.com.
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Frontstretch Line of the Week
 
From Beyond the Cockpit: Austin Wayne Self on Coming Home to Texas

"This one's big; this one's cool! I'm happy because – I've been saying it a lot this weekend – but it's like watching TV and seeing your favorite actor and you get to meet that actor. You hope you love that actor personally as much as you did seeing them on TV. I really love this racetrack; I love everything about it. I was just hoping once I got on there that I still loved it and didn't have a sour taste in my mouth. I ended up loving it; this track's a lot of fun."  - Austin Wayne Self on being able to race at Texas Motor Speedway, a place that has a lot of meaning to him
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TODAY AT FRONTSTRETCH:

by Aaron Bearden and Sean Fesko
by Bryan Gable
by Toni Montgomery

by Beth Lunkenheimer
 
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FRONTSTRETCH TRIVIA:

Q: The aforementioned 1987 Pepsi Firecracker 400 saw an important rule change implemented for the race.  What was it?

Check back Friday for the answer, here in the Frontstretch Newsletter!

Wednesday's Answer:

Q:  The 1987 Pepsi Firecracker 400 saw Bobby Allison come back from a lap down to win the race.  The event ended with a shootout and spectacular incident for Ken Schrader.  What happened?

A: Schrader was in the second position on the last lap when his car began to lose control.  Exiting turn 4, Schrader washed up in front of Dave Marcis (who, had the last caution not flown, would have won the race by a buttload on merit).  This mistake got Schrader loose.  He drifted to the apron, then overcorrected and spun.  The Red Baron Ford rolled over and collected Harry Gant coming to the line.  The crash can be seen here.

Schrader slid across the line to finish seventh with a destroyed Thunderbird.  Afterwards, there was a funny moment in which the safety crew failed to get the window net down.  Schrader proceeded to cuss the safety crew as a result.  Since he had an in-car camera for ABC Sports, that F-bomb actually made the delayed race broadcast unedited.

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COMING TOMORROW
In The Frontstretch Newsletter:
We'll preview Saturday night's Coke Zero 400 from Daytona International Speedway.

On Frontstretch.com:
Sean Fesko, filling in for Zach Catanzareti answers Four Burning Questions heading into this weekend's action in Daytona.
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Digest for rec.games.trivia@googlegroups.com - 10 updates in 1 topic

bbowler <bbowler@bigelow.org>: Jun 29 01:26PM

On Tue, 28 Jun 2016 19:41:14 -0700, Calvin wrote:
 
> 1 "Invisible Touch" was a 1986 hit for which British band?
 
Genesis
 
> 2 Which 1986 Stephen King novel features a shape shifting entity that
> preys on young children in the form of a clown?
 
It
 
> 3 Which architect went on to become Hitler's Minister of Armaments
and
> War Production?
> 4 Epistemophobia is the fear of what?
> 5 What is the better-known name of "La fête nationale du 14 juillet"?
 
Bastille Day
 
> services sold between entities within an organisation, for example a
> subsidiary company selling goods to a parent company?
> 7 Apart from mercury, which element is a liquid at room temperature?
 
Bromine
 
> 8 How long is each quarter of play in a standard American football
> match?
 
The clock runs for a nominal 15 minutes, but in "wall clock time", I've
seen some last 45 minutes or more :-)
 
> 9 Marion Cotillard won as Oscar in 2008 for her portrayal of Edith
Piaf
> in which film?
> 10 Which children's toy is a cylinder with mirrors containing loose,
> coloured objects such as beads, pebbles or pieces of glass?
 
Kaleidescope
 
Pete <pagrsg@wowway.com>: Jun 29 03:08PM

Calvin <334152@gmail.com> wrote in
> 3 Which
> architect went on to become Hitler's Minister of Armaments and War
> Production?
 
Speer
 
> 4 Epistemophobia is the fear of what?
> 5 What is the better-known name of "La fête nationale du 14
> juillet"?
 
Bastille Day
 
> 6 Which two-word term refers to the setting of charges
> for goods and services sold between entities within an organisation,
> for example a subsidiary company selling goods to a parent company?
 
Internal pricing
 
> temperature?
> 8 How long is each quarter of play in a standard
> American football match?
 
15 minutes
 
> 10 Which children's
> toy is a cylinder with mirrors containing loose, coloured objects such
> as beads, pebbles or pieces of glass?
 
Kaleidoscope
 
 
> cheers,
> calvin
 
Pete Gayde
"Björn Lundin" <b.f.lundin@gmail.com>: Jun 29 05:09PM +0200

On 2016-06-29 04:41, Calvin wrote:
 
> 1 "Invisible Touch" was a 1986 hit for which British band?
Genesis
> 2 Which 1986 Stephen King novel features a shape shifting entity that preys on young children in the form of a clown?
It
> 3 Which architect went on to become Hitler's Minister of Armaments and War Production?
Albert Speer
> 4 Epistemophobia is the fear of what?
> 5 What is the better-known name of "La fête nationale du 14 juillet"?
French National day
> 6 Which two-word term refers to the setting of charges for goods and services sold between entities within an organisation, for example a subsidiary company selling goods to a parent company?
Internal billing
> 7 Apart from mercury, which element is a liquid at room temperature?
Bromine
> 8 How long is each quarter of play in a standard American football match?
20 min ?
 
--
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Björn
"Peter Smyth" <smythp@gmail.com>: Jun 29 06:11PM

Calvin wrote:
 
 
> 1 "Invisible Touch" was a 1986 hit for which British band?
Genesis
 
> 3 Which architect went on to become Hitler's Minister of Armaments
> and War Production?
 
> 4 Epistemophobia is the fear of what?
Writing
> 5 What is the better-known name of "La fête nationale du 14 juillet"?
Bastille Day
> services sold between entities within an organisation, for example a
> subsidiary company selling goods to a parent company?
 
> 7 Apart from mercury, which element is a liquid at room temperature?
Bromine
> 8 How long is each quarter of play in a standard American football
> match?
15 minutes
> Piaf in which film?
 
> 10 Which children's toy is a cylinder with mirrors containing loose,
> coloured objects such as beads, pebbles or pieces of glass?
Kaleidoscope
 
Peter Smyth
Erland Sommarskog <esquel@sommarskog.se>: Jun 29 09:29PM +0200


>> 2 Which 1986 Stephen King novel features a shape shifting entity that
>> preys on young children in the form of a clown?
 
> It
 
I have seen this answer more than once. I don't read Stephen King (or
novels in general for that matter), so I don't know whether this is
the correct answer. But if there is, there is an interesting connection
between the first and second questions. (Which Gareth undoubtedly knows,
but maybe not so many others.)

 
 
 
--
Erland Sommarskog, Stockholm, esquel@sommarskog.se
Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com>: Jun 29 09:11PM +0100

> the correct answer. But if there is, there is an interesting connection
> between the first and second questions. (Which Gareth undoubtedly knows,
> but maybe not so many others.)
 
I can assure you that he doesn't...
ArenEss <areness1@yahoo.com>: Jun 29 04:49PM -0500

On Tue, 28 Jun 2016 19:41:14 -0700 (PDT), Calvin <334152@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
 
>1 "Invisible Touch" was a 1986 hit for which British band?
Genesis
 
>2 Which 1986 Stephen King novel features a shape shifting entity that preys on young children in the form of a clown?
IT
 
>3 Which architect went on to become Hitler's Minister of Armaments and War Production?
Albert Speer
 
>4 Epistemophobia is the fear of what?
Knowledge or wisdom
 
>5 What is the better-known name of "La fête nationale du 14 juillet"?
Bastille Day
 
>6 Which two-word term refers to the setting of charges for goods and services sold between entities within an organisation, for example a subsidiary company selling goods to a parent company?
Internal costs
 
>7 Apart from mercury, which element is a liquid at room temperature?
Bromine (non-metal), and caesium, francium, and gallium (metals that
are liquid at or near room temperature, depending on your definition
of room temperature)
 
>8 How long is each quarter of play in a standard American football match?
15 minutes
 
>9 Marion Cotillard won as Oscar in 2008 for her portrayal of Edith Piaf in which film?
La Vie en Rose
 
>10 Which children's toy is a cylinder with mirrors containing loose, coloured objects such as beads, pebbles or pieces of glass?
Kaliedescope
 
>cheers,
>calvin
 
ArenEss
"Chris F.A. Johnson" <cfajohnson@cfaj.ca>: Jun 29 06:54PM -0400

On 2016-06-29, Calvin wrote:
 
> 1 "Invisible Touch" was a 1986 hit for which British band?
> 2 Which 1986 Stephen King novel features a shape shifting entity that preys on young children in the form of a clown?
 
"It"
 
> 3 Which architect went on to become Hitler's Minister of Armaments and War Production?
 
Speer
 
> 4 Epistemophobia is the fear of what?
 
Knowledge
 
> 5 What is the better-known name of "La f??te nationale du 14 juillet"?
 
Bastille Day
 
> 6 Which two-word term refers to the setting of charges for goods and services sold between entities within an organisation, for example a subsidiary company selling goods to a parent company?
> 7 Apart from mercury, which element is a liquid at room temperature?
 
Bromine
 
> 8 How long is each quarter of play in a standard American football match?
> 9 Marion Cotillard won as Oscar in 2008 for her portrayal of Edith Piaf in which film?
 
"La Vie en Rose"
 
> 10 Which children's toy is a cylinder with mirrors containing loose, coloured objects such as beads, pebbles or pieces of glass?
 
Kaleidoscope
 
 
 
--
Chris F.A. Johnson
swp <Stephen.W.Perry@gmail.com>: Jun 29 05:08PM -0700

On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 3:29:42 PM UTC-4, Erland Sommarskog wrote:
> the correct answer. But if there is, there is an interesting connection
> between the first and second questions. (Which Gareth undoubtedly knows,
> but maybe not so many others.)
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWgphYPf0PA
 
swp
Erland Sommarskog <esquel@sommarskog.se>: Jun 30 09:52AM +0200

>> between the first and second questions. (Which Gareth undoubtedly knows,
>> but maybe not so many others.)
 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWgphYPf0PA
 
Yeah, this is It!
 
 
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Wednesday, June 29, 2016

The Frontstretch Newsletter: Matt Tifft Out Indefinitely Due to Brain Tumor

THE FRONTSTRETCH NEWSLETTER
Presented by Frontstretch.com
The Best Seat at the Track, The Best View on the Net!
Jun. 29, 2016
Volume X, Edition CV
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What to Watch: Wednesday

- Today is the day that NASCAR releases the weekly Penalty Report.  There are most definitely two guys that will get some treatment from NASCAR: John Wes Townley and Spencer Gallagher.  When the report is released, we'll have a news article for you at Frontstretch.

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Wednesday's TV Schedule can be found here.

Top News
by the Frontstretch Staff

Matt Tifft Sidelined Due to Brain Tumor

The hits keep on coming for Matt Tifft.  Having just recovered from back issues, Joe Gibbs Racing announced that Tifft has been diagnosed with a low-grade glioma in the brain and will need surgery and follow-up rehabilitation.  He will be out indefinitely.  Read more

NASCAR Updates Provisional, Race Eligibility Procedures for Sprint Cup Series

Tuesday, NASCAR announced a couple of changes to general procedure in the Sprint Cup Series going forward.  If a non-Charter team qualifies for the Chase, they will receive provisionals to ensure they're qualified for each of ten postseason events.  Also, if qualifying is rained out, points alone will once again determine the starting grid.  Read more

Have news for The Frontstretch? Don't hesitate to let us know; email us at phil.allaway@frontstretch.com with a promising lead or tip.
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Today's Featured Commentary
Changing Times
Professor of Speed
by Mark Howell
 
In the words of the legendary rap group Tag Team:  "I'm taking it back to the old school, 'cause I'm an old fool who's so cool."

Or maybe I'm just getting crusty in my impending golden years….

Call me old-fashioned, but I'm seeing changes in-and-around NASCAR Nation that both excite and incite. Some of the more competitive innovations are "cutting edge" circa 1976. Blades across the rear decks of Sprint Cup cars that harken us back four decades (like the ones we saw at Michigan International Speedway a couple weeks ago) turned racers into skaters as drivers hung on for their dear lives.

Match-lowered spoilers with a new Goodyear tire construction that went from grip one lap to slip the next; suddenly, it's like we're looking out for the No. 3 CRC Chemicals Chevrolet driven by a journeyman hotshoe named Richard Childress. Might Buddy Baker, Coo Coo Marlin, and Lennie Pond be lurking either ahead or behind? Close racing was rarely the rule forty years ago, but that didn't mean wrestling heavy cars with light downforce at high speeds didn't make for some fun Sunday afternoons.

Those of a certain age reminisce about "the good ol' days", and I hear more and more race fans making such comments. Of course, this statement comes from a guy who still carries a book of matches in his car to combat the sluggish playback of an 8-track tape.

As long as I live, I'll never get fully comfortable with digital technologies. It's difficult to say goodbye to the tried-and-true, even if these methods have their faults.

Which is why I quietly dread the upcoming 2017 NASCAR season and accepting the absence of Tony Stewart from behind the wheel of a Cup car. Stewart's gamble on short-pitting and his last lap fenderfest with former JGR teammate Denny Hamlin at Sonoma last weekend was classic Smoke. Tony made sure he fully Foyted Hamlin with one turn to go in order to retake the lead and secure the win.

"Super Tex" was no doubt proud of Stewart's approach to making the Chase….

And it's not that Tony is the last of the NASCAR metal benders; there are still a few curmudgeons in the sport who are willing to push-and-shove in order to eventually hoist a big trophy. The Busch brothers come to mind, as do Kevin Harvick and Joey Logano, but there will never be another Smoke.

Maybe that's the way things have to go. There can only be one original of anything. In today's NASCAR, diversity is pretty much linked to the past – what drivers exhibited during the 1970s when Lee Roy Yarbrough and the Allison brothers used to combine stock car racing with an occasional ride in the Indianapolis 500.

For more references to such diversity, see the aforementioned A.J. Foyt, Kurt Busch, and Tony Stewart. The loss of such cross-pollination leads to specialized drivers while robbing motorsports of its penchant for putting the most skilled in the best cars.

I miss the days of Jim Clark and the Wood Brothers at Indy and Dan Gurney sharing the wheel of a Ford with A.J. Foyt at Le Mans.

Part of me also misses the time when racing was more sport and less show business. Those memories have flooded back lately, especially when listening to the singing of the National Anthem at various NASCAR venues.

Since I live in Michigan, I can say that the singing group "Three Men and a Tenor" has something of a popular regional following. They perform concerts and make recordings; that's fine. It's just that their lengthy, jazzy rendition of "The Star-Spangled Banner" seemed to be more form than function.

The same might be said for the performance we heard at Sonoma last week. While I have nothing against musical theater, I do get edgy when our National Anthem takes about as long as a parade lap around Sears Point.  And it's not just me, either. Check out the faces of drivers and crew members standing along pit road. It's easy to tell when things have gone a bit too far musically.

When it's time to go racing, it's time to go racing. But maybe that's just me rapping as an "old fool" who's too "old school". Call it my opinion, but "Whoomp (There it is)."

That said, it's a good time to drop back into the pack and cool my tires. I'll be visiting with family the next two weeks and this little patch of the Internet will be seen to by my respected colleague Clayton Caldwell. His youthful vim and vigor will bring new ideas and engaging essays.

I'm packing my matchbook for the long trip….

Dr. Mark Howell is a Senior Writer for Frontstretch.  He can be reached via e-mail at mhowell@nmc.edu.
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TODAY AT FRONTSTRETCH:

by Tom Bowles

compiled by Aaron Bearden
 
by Dustin Albino

by Amy Henderson
 
by Aaron Bearden and Matt Stallknecht
 
as told to Beth Lunkenheimer

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FRONTSTRETCH TRIVIA:

Q: The 1987 Pepsi 400 saw Bobby Allison come back from a lap down to win the race.  The race ended with a shootout and a spectacular incident for Ken Schrader.  What happened?

Check back Thursday for the answer, here in the Frontstretch Newsletter!

Tuesday's Answer:

Q:  In ESPN's first flag-to-flag broadcast from Daytona in 1989, Lake Speed had a huge crash on the backstretch late in the race.  What happened?

A: On a late restart, Speed and Sterling Marlin came together on the backstretch, spinning Speed head-on into the wall.  The force of the hit turned Speed's Bulls-Eye Oldsmobile over multiple times in front of a charging pack of cars.  Derrike Cope, Dave Marcis, Jimmy Spencer and Hut Stricklin were also involved.  The crash can be seen here.
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COMING TOMORROW
In The Frontstretch Newsletter:
We'll have any news that breaks in the world of NASCAR, plus an additional look at some of the broadcast content from last weekend in the Critic's Annex.

On Frontstretch.com:
Toni Montgomery returns with her weekly look at the NHRA Mello Yello Drag Racing Series, Nitro Shots.
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Digest for rec.games.trivia@googlegroups.com - 13 updates in 5 topics

msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Jun 28 10:44PM -0500

Mark Brader:
>>>> 3. Which NFL team's logo includes flames?
>>> Tennessee Titans. 4 for Dan and Stephen.
 
"Calvin":
>> Protest! I contend that the Miami Dolphins logo also contains flames.
>> http://www.sportslogos.net/logos/list_by_team/150/Miami_Dolphins/
 
That is the correct logo for the team, and there are no flames in it.
 
Stephen Perry:
> good catch.
 
Not.
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msb@vex.net | eyespot or rynchosporium control in barley."
msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Jun 28 10:45PM -0500

Mark Brader:
>>> 8. Which major-league baseball team's logo includes a bird that's
>>> perched on a baseball-related object?
 
>> St. Louis Cardinals. 4 for Peter and Dan. 2 for Calvin.
 
Dan Tilque:
> It should be noted that the Cardinals uniforms have not one, but two
> birds perched on the bat.
 
Note way, but if there there are two birds perched on the bat, then
it still meets the decription in the question.
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msb@vex.net | amazingly creative." -- David Sherman
Calvin <334152@gmail.com>: Jun 28 10:47PM -0700

On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 1:44:14 PM UTC+10, Mark Brader wrote:
> >> Protest! I contend that the Miami Dolphins logo also contains flames.
> >> http://www.sportslogos.net/logos/list_by_team/150/Miami_Dolphins/
 
> That is the correct logo for the team, and there are no flames in it.
 
What are they then?
 
cheers,
calvin
Erland Sommarskog <esquel@sommarskog.se>: Jun 29 10:27AM +0200

>> >> http://www.sportslogos.net/logos/list_by_team/150/Miami_Dolphins/
 
>> That is the correct logo for the team, and there are no flames in it.
 
> What are they then?
 
Looking at the current logo, the word that comes into my mind is "flares".
I guess that one should look at the historic logos to understand better
what it's meant to be. I will have to confess, though, I am not able to
make out what they are supposed to me - but flames, no.
 
 
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msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Jun 29 03:46AM -0500

"Calvin":
>>>>> Protest! I contend that the Miami Dolphins logo also contains flames.
>>>>> http://www.sportslogos.net/logos/list_by_team/150/Miami_Dolphins/
 
Mark Brader:
>>> That is the correct logo for the team, and there are no flames in it.
 
"Calvin":
>> What are they then?
 
What, you mean the rays from the Sun?
 
Erland Sommarskog:
> Looking at the current logo, the word that comes into my mind is "flares".
 
If they were something physical, they'd be prominences. But they aren't.
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Toronto | "We're embedded in bugs, have you noticed?"
msb@vex.net | -- Niven, "The Integral Trees"
 
My text in this article is in the public domain.
Dan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com>: Jun 28 08:33PM -0700

Calvin wrote:
> 2 Which 1986 Stephen King novel features a shape shifting entity that preys on young children in the form of a clown?
> 3 Which architect went on to become Hitler's Minister of Armaments and War Production?
> 4 Epistemophobia is the fear of what?
 
knowledge
 
> 5 What is the better-known name of "La fête nationale du 14 juillet"?
 
Bastille Day
 
> 6 Which two-word term refers to the setting of charges for goods and services sold between entities within an organisation, for example a subsidiary company selling goods to a parent company?
> 7 Apart from mercury, which element is a liquid at room temperature?
 
bromine
 
> 8 How long is each quarter of play in a standard American football match?
 
15 minutes
 
> 9 Marion Cotillard won as Oscar in 2008 for her portrayal of Edith Piaf in which film?
> 10 Which children's toy is a cylinder with mirrors containing loose, coloured objects such as beads, pebbles or pieces of glass?
 
kaleidoscope
 
 
--
Dan Tilque
msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Jun 28 10:36PM -0500

"Calvin":
> 1 "Invisible Touch" was a 1986 hit for which British band?
 
Name a British band... Yardbirds.
 
> 2 Which 1986 Stephen King novel features a shape shifting
> entity that preys on young children in the form of a clown?
 
"The Entity"?
 
> 3 Which architect went on to become Hitler's Minister of
> Armaments and War Production?
 
Speer.
 
> 4 Epistemophobia is the fear of what?
 
Epistems. :-)
 
> 5 What is the better-known name of "La fête nationale du 14 juillet"?
 
Bastille Day.
 
> goods and services sold between entities within an
> organisation, for example a subsidiary company selling goods to
> a parent company?
 
Internal tarification?
 
> 7 Apart from mercury, which element is a liquid at room temperature?
 
Bromine. Maybe also gallium, depending on how you define room temp.
 
> 8 How long is each quarter of play in a standard American
> football match?
 
15 minutes playing time. 90 minutes with the commercials, or at least
it seems like it. :-)
 
> 9 Marion Cotillard won as Oscar in 2008 for her portrayal of
> Edith Piaf in which film?
 
Arrrgh, I should know this. "La Vie en Rose"?
 
> 10 Which children's toy is a cylinder with mirrors containing
> loose, coloured objects such as beads, pebbles or pieces of
> glass?
 
Kaleidoscope.
--
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msb@vex.net --Arwel Parry
 
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Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com>: Jun 29 07:12AM +0100


> 1 "Invisible Touch" was a 1986 hit for which British band?
 
Genesis
 
> 2 Which 1986 Stephen King novel features a shape shifting entity that
> preys on young children in the form of a clown?
 
It
 
> 3 Which architect went on to become Hitler's Minister of Armaments and
> War Production?
 
Speer
 
> 4 Epistemophobia is the fear of what?
 
Letters?
 
> 5 What is the better-known name of "La fête nationale du 14
> juillet"?
 
Bastille Day
 
> 6 Which two-word term refers to the setting of charges for goods and
> services sold between entities within an organisation, for example a
> subsidiary company selling goods to a parent company?
 
Internal pricing???
 
> 7 Apart from mercury, which element is a liquid at room
> temperature?
 
Bromine
 
> 8 How long is each quarter of play in a standard American football
> match?
 
On the clock? 15 minutes. In reality *WAY* longer than that.
 
> 9 Marion Cotillard won as Oscar in 2008 for her portrayal of Edith
> Piaf in which film?
 
La Vie En Rose
 
> 10 Which children's toy is a cylinder with mirrors containing loose,
> coloured objects such as beads, pebbles or pieces of glass?
 
Kaleidoscope
Erland Sommarskog <esquel@sommarskog.se>: Jun 29 09:52AM +0200

> 1 "Invisible Touch" was a 1986 hit for which British band?
 
Genesis
 
> 5 What is the better-known name of "La fête nationale du 14 juillet"?
 
Bastille Day
 
> 7 Apart from mercury, which element is a liquid at room temperature?
 
Bromine
 
And on a hot day when the air-conditioning is not working, also Gallium
if memory serves.
 
> 8 How long is each quarter of play in a standard American football
> match?
 
Forever
 
> 10 Which children's toy is a cylinder with mirrors containing loose,
> coloured objects such as beads, pebbles or pieces of glass?
 
Kaledeioscope
 
 
 
--
Erland Sommarskog, Stockholm, esquel@sommarskog.se
Erland Sommarskog <esquel@sommarskog.se>: Jun 29 09:53AM +0200

>> 1 "Invisible Touch" was a 1986 hit for which British band?
 
> Name a British band... Yardbirds.
 
Off by two decades!

 
--
Erland Sommarskog, Stockholm, esquel@sommarskog.se
Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com>: Jun 29 07:07AM +0100

>> in an amusing way.
 
> I assumed you were just having a laugh. If there is a protest then
> please confirm.
 
I was just having a laugh.
Dan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com>: Jun 28 08:10PM -0700

Mark Brader wrote:
> (22 pounds) of *what* buried in a bog? The find, which
> surprisingly enough is reportedly not unique, has been estimated
> to be around 2,000 years old.
 
amber
 
> confirmed, that the NHL would add a franchise in *what city*,
> which currently represents the largest North American market
> without a major-league sports team?
 
Las Vegas
 
> father, as it was turning violent -- a propane tank was thrown
> into a campfire at one point. *What topic of discussion*
> led to this heated fracas?
 
Whether the Earth is flat
 
> for the first time in 52 years, and a ceasefire agreement was
> signed to end (officially, at least) a conflict that had also
> lasted 52 years. In what country did this armistice take place?
 
Laos
 
> Hot Docs Cinema?
 
> 8. Corey Lewandowski lost his job last Monday. What had he been
> doing prior to this summary dismissal?
 
Donald Trump's campaign manager
 
 
> 9. It wasn't John Bradley, it was Harold Schultz after all.
> "After all" in this case means 61 years after the event in
> question. What Second World War event are we referring to?
 
celebratory kiss (and I'd expect it was 71 years, since it was WWII)
 
 
--
Dan Tilque
msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Jun 21 02:21PM -0500

Mark Brader:
>>> Hint: none of them are east of the city.
 
>> Jersey City, Newark, Yonkers. 4 for Stephen, Joshua (the hard way),
>> Dan Blum, Pete, and Dan Tilque.

Peter Smyth:
> By what criteria is Newark adjacent to New York City?
 
It's not; I was mistaken about its boundaries. Sorry about that.
 
> Jersey City is debatable too but at least that has a water border with NYC.
 
A river border, in fact.
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Calvin <334152@gmail.com>: Jun 28 07:41PM -0700

1 "Invisible Touch" was a 1986 hit for which British band?
2 Which 1986 Stephen King novel features a shape shifting entity that preys on young children in the form of a clown?
3 Which architect went on to become Hitler's Minister of Armaments and War Production?
4 Epistemophobia is the fear of what?
5 What is the better-known name of "La fête nationale du 14 juillet"?
6 Which two-word term refers to the setting of charges for goods and services sold between entities within an organisation, for example a subsidiary company selling goods to a parent company?
7 Apart from mercury, which element is a liquid at room temperature?
8 How long is each quarter of play in a standard American football match?
9 Marion Cotillard won as Oscar in 2008 for her portrayal of Edith Piaf in which film?
10 Which children's toy is a cylinder with mirrors containing loose, coloured objects such as beads, pebbles or pieces of glass?
 
cheers,
calvin
Calvin <334152@gmail.com>: Jun 28 07:36PM -0700

On Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 1:20:05 PM UTC+10, Calvin wrote:
 
> 1 Augusto Pinochet was a former ruler of which South American country?
 
Chile
 
> 2 In Greek mythology who was Queen of the underworld?
 
Persephone
 
> 3 Who wrote the 1961 play "The Night of the Iguana"?
 
Tennessee Williams
 
> 4 Where in the body are human blood cells formed?
 
Bone marrow
 
> 5 What is the medical term for the collar bone?
 
Clavicle
 
> 6 Only two UN member states begin with the letter A but end with a different letter. Name either.
 
Azerbaijan or Afghanistan
 
> 7 Most golf tournaments are contested over how many holes?
 
72
 
> 8 Which animal is depicted on Mexico's flag?
 
Eagle or Snake
 
> 9 Who played The Bionic Woman in the 1970s TV series of that name?
 
Lindsay Wagner
 
> 10 The Giuseppe Verdi opera "Aida" was commissioned in 1869 to mark what event?
 
Opening of the Suez canal
 
 
Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Q5 Q6 Q7 Q8 Q9 Q10 TOTAL TB Quiz 445
1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 10 53 Chris Johnson
1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 10 53 Mark Brader
1 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 7 43 Dan Tilque
1 0 0 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 7 45 Bruce Bowler
1 0 0 1 1 1 1 0 0 1 6 42 Pete Gayde
1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 5 37 Erland S
1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 4 32 Peter Smyth
1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 4 32 Bjorn Lundin
- - - - - - - - - - --- ----------
8 3 2 8 5 8 8 3 3 5 53 66%
 
Congratulations to Mark and Chris on perfect rounds.
 
cheers,
calvin
Dan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com>: Jun 28 05:55PM -0700

Mark Brader wrote:
 
>> of horns, although in recent years their uniforms just show
>> the horns on each side of the player's own head?
 
> Minnesota Vikings. 4 for Peter, Dan, Joshua, Jason, and Stephen.
 
I can understand why some answered the Rams. Their helmets have rams
horns on them, one on each side. But they've never had a human head on
the helmet, or in the logo at all.
 
>> perched on a baseball-related object?
 
> St. Louis Cardinals. 4 for Peter and Dan. 2 for Calvin.
 
> See: http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/assets/images/9/3/0/182802930/cuts/leake1000_v93t6eag_91ia0gfn.jpg
 
It should be noted that the Cardinals uniforms have not one, but two
birds perched on the bat. Their logo has various forms, some with one
bird and some with two. The uniforms have always had two. This page here
has all the different variations of the logo over the years:
 
http://www.sportslogos.net/logos/list_by_team/72/St._Louis_Cardinals/
 
 
--
Dan Tilque
Calvin <334152@gmail.com>: Jun 28 07:21PM -0700

On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 6:12:16 PM UTC+10, Mark Brader wrote:
 
> > 3. Which NFL team's logo includes flames?
 
> Tennessee Titans. 4 for Dan and Stephen.
 
Protest! I contend that the Miami Dolphins logo also contains flames.
 
http://www.sportslogos.net/logos/list_by_team/150/Miami_Dolphins/
 
cheers,
calvin
swp <Stephen.W.Perry@gmail.com>: Jun 28 07:30PM -0700

On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 10:21:23 PM UTC-4, Calvin wrote:
 
> http://www.sportslogos.net/logos/list_by_team/150/Miami_Dolphins/
 
> cheers,
> calvin
 
good catch.
 
swp
Erland Sommarskog <esquel@sommarskog.se>: Jun 28 09:23PM +0200

> on the handout:
 
> http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/2-4/flags.png
 
> 1. South Africa.
 
13
 
> 2. Nepal.
 
11
 
> 3. Turkey.
 
21
 
> 4. Israel.
 
22
 
> 5. Brazil.
 
17
 
> 6. Vatican City.
 
20
 
> 7. Czech Republic.
 
 
14
 
 
> 8. Switzerland.
 
24
 
> 9. Japan.
 
18
 
> 10. Jamaica.
 
16
 
> If you like, decode the rot13 to see the remaining country names
> and identify those flags for fun, but for no points. Only one
> guess for each, please.
 
I'm too lazy for the rot13. The striped ones in are quite difficult
given the greyscale, but here it goes:
 
1) France
2) Nigeria
3) Ireland
4) Nigeria
5) Belgium
8) Mexico :-)
9) Vanuatu
10) Thailand
12) Taiwan
15) Macedonia
23) Georgia
 
 
 
 
--
Erland Sommarskog, Stockholm, esquel@sommarskog.se
Joshua Kreitzer <gromit82@hotmail.com>: Jun 28 11:36PM

msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote in
> on the handout:
 
> http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/2-4/flags.png
 
> 1. South Africa.
 
13
 
> 2. Nepal.
 
11
 
> 3. Turkey.
 
21
 
> 4. Israel.
 
22
 
> 5. Brazil.
 
17
 
> 6. Vatican City.
 
20
 
> 7. Czech Republic.
 
14
 
> 8. Switzerland.
 
24
 
> 9. Japan.
 
18
 
> 10. Jamaica.
 
16

> and identify those flags for fun, but for no points. Only one
> guess for each, please.
 
> 11. Oneonqbf.
 
19
 
> 13. Onuenva.
 
9
 
> 19. Gunvynaq.
 
10
 
> 21. Trbetvn (gur pbhagel).
 
23
 
> 22. Puvyr.
 
12
 
> 23. Znprqbavn.
 
15
 
> 24. Pnanqn.
 
8

> where they appear.
 
> 1. This line is spoken on a ship at sea: "A pox o'your throat,
> you bawling, blasphemous, incharitable dog."
 
"The Tempest"
 
> 2. Diana is the target of this dismissive comment: "This woman's
> an easy glove, my lord, she goes off and on at pleasure".
 
"All's Well that Ends Well"; "Love's Labour's Lost"

> 3. "Frailty, thy name is woman!"
 
"Hamlet"
 
> 4. "Nothing in his life became him like the leaving of it."
 
"Macbeth"; "Julius Caesar"
 
> 5. "How tartly that gentleman looks! I never can see him but I am
> heart-burned an hour after."
 
"Much Ado About Nothing"

> 6. This line is spoken in an orchard: "Where wilt thou find a
> cavern dark enough to mask thy monstrous visage?"
 
"Richard III"; "The Tempest"
 
> 7. This was not the only slander the speaker leveled at the woman
> in question: "You rise to play, and go to bed to work."
 
"The Taming of the Shrew"; "Much Ado About Nothing"

> 8. This remark is aimed at a close relative of the speaker: Thou art
> a boil, a plague-sore, or embossed carbuncle in my corrupted
> blood."
 
"King Lear"
 
> 9. For this question, you can name either the play or the character
> speaking. "Away, you scullion! You rampallion! You fustilarian!
> I'll tickle your catastrophe."
 
"Henry V"
 
> 10. A woman is described as: "No longer from head to foot than
> from hip to hip; she is spherical, like a globe; I could find
> out countries in her."
 
"The Comedy of Errors"; "All's Well that Ends Well"
 
--
Joshua Kreitzer
gromit82@hotmail.com
Jason Kreitzer <jk71875@gmail.com>: Jun 28 04:44PM -0700

On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 4:14:28 AM UTC-4, Mark Brader wrote:
> on the handout:
 
> http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/2-4/flags.png
 
> 1. South Africa.
13.
> 2. Nepal.
11.
> 3. Turkey.
21.
> 4. Israel.
22.
> 5. Brazil.
17.
> 6. Vatican City.
20.
> 7. Czech Republic.
10.?
> 8. Switzerland.
24.
> 9. Japan.
18.
> 10. Jamaica.
16.
> and identify those flags for fun, but for no points. Only one
> guess for each, please.
> 11. Barbados.
19.
> 12. Chad.
> 13. Bahrain.
> 14. France.
1.
> 15. Ireland.
3.
> 19. Thailand.
> 20. Romania.
> 21. Georgia (the country).
23.?
> 22. Chile.
> 23. Macedonia.
15.?
> 24. Canada.
8.
> | Love's Labour's Lost | Twelfth Night
 
> 1. This line is spoken on a ship at sea: "A pox o'your throat,
> you bawling, blasphemous, incharitable dog."
"The Tempest"?
 
> 2. Diana is the target of this dismissive comment: "This woman's
> an easy glove, my lord, she goes off and on at pleasure".
"Titus Andronicus"?
> 3. "Frailty, thy name is woman!"
"Hamlet?"
> 4. "Nothing in his life became him like the leaving of it."
"Macbeth"?
> 5. "How tartly that gentleman looks! I never can see him but I am
> heart-burned an hour after."
"The Merchant of Venice"
> 6. This line is spoken in an orchard: "Where wilt thou find a
> cavern dark enough to mask thy monstrous visage?"
"Henry V"?
> 7. This was not the only slander the speaker leveled at the woman
> in question: "You rise to play, and go to bed to work."
"The Taming of the Shrew"?
> 8. This remark is aimed at a close relative of the speaker: Thou art
> a boil, a plague-sore, or embossed carbuncle in my corrupted
> blood."
"Richard III"?
> 9. For this question, you can name either the play or the character
> speaking. "Away, you scullion! You rampallion! You fustilarian!
> I'll tickle your catastrophe."
"Julius Caesar"?
> 10. A woman is described as: "No longer from head to foot than
> from hip to hip; she is spherical, like a globe; I could find
> out countries in her."
"Love's Labour's Lost?"
swp <Stephen.W.Perry@gmail.com>: Jun 28 07:29PM -0700

On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 4:14:28 AM UTC-4, Mark Brader wrote:
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2016-05-30,
> and should be interpreted accordingly.
 
pre-invasion
 
> I wrote one of these rounds.
 
fun with flags?
 
> on the handout:
 
> http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/2-4/flags.png
 
> 1. South Africa.
 
13
 
> 2. Nepal.
 
11
 
> 3. Turkey.
 
21
 
> 4. Israel.
 
22
 
> 5. Brazil.
 
17
 
> 6. Vatican City.
 
20
 
> 7. Czech Republic.
 
14
 
> 8. Switzerland.
 
24
 
> 9. Japan.
 
18
 
> 10. Jamaica.
 
16
 
> and identify those flags for fun, but for no points. Only one
> guess for each, please.
 
> 11. Barbados.
 
19
 
> 12. Chad.
> 13. Bahrain.
 
9
 
> 14. France.
> 15. Ireland.
> 16. Nigeria.
 
2
 
> 17. Belgium.
 
7
 
> 18. Italy.
> 19. Thailand.
 
10
 
> 20. Romania.
> 21. Georgia (the country).
 
23
 
> 22. Chile.
 
12
 
> 23. Macedonia.
 
15
 
> 24. Canada.
 
8
 
... I am more color blind than I thought
 
 
> | Love's Labour's Lost | Twelfth Night
 
> 1. This line is spoken on a ship at sea: "A pox o'your throat,
> you bawling, blasphemous, incharitable dog."
 
the tempest
 
> 2. Diana is the target of this dismissive comment: "This woman's
> an easy glove, my lord, she goes off and on at pleasure".
 
all's well that ends well
 
> 3. "Frailty, thy name is woman!"
 
hamlet
 
> 4. "Nothing in his life became him like the leaving of it."
 
macbeth
 
> 5. "How tartly that gentleman looks! I never can see him but I am
> heart-burned an hour after."
 
much ado about nothing
 
> 6. This line is spoken in an orchard: "Where wilt thou find a
> cavern dark enough to mask thy monstrous visage?"
 
julius caesar
 
> 7. This was not the only slander the speaker leveled at the woman
> in question: "You rise to play, and go to bed to work."
 
othello
 
> 8. This remark is aimed at a close relative of the speaker: "Thou art
> a boil, a plague-sore, or embossed carbuncle in my corrupted
> blood."
 
king lear
 
> 9. For this question, you can name either the play or the character
> speaking. "Away, you scullion! You rampallion! You fustilarian!
> I'll tickle your catastrophe."
 
henry iv, part ii ; falstaff
 
> 10. A woman is described as: "No longer from head to foot than
> from hip to hip; she is spherical, like a globe; I could find
> out countries in her."
 
the comedy of errors
 
swp
Dan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com>: Jun 28 07:28PM -0700

Mark Brader wrote:
> on the handout:
 
> http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/2-4/flags.png
 
> 1. South Africa.
 
13
 
> 2. Nepal.
 
11
 
> 3. Turkey.
 
21
 
> 4. Israel.
 
22
 
> 5. Brazil.
 
17
 
> 6. Vatican City.
 
20
 
> 7. Czech Republic.
 
14
 
> 8. Switzerland.
 
24
 
> 9. Japan.
 
18
 
> 10. Jamaica.
 
16
 
> | Love's Labour's Lost | Twelfth Night
 
> 1. This line is spoken on a ship at sea: "A pox o'your throat,
> you bawling, blasphemous, incharitable dog."
 
The Tempest
 
 
> 2. Diana is the target of this dismissive comment: "This woman's
> an easy glove, my lord, she goes off and on at pleasure".
 
Twelfth Night
 
 
> 3. "Frailty, thy name is woman!"
 
Macbeth
 
 
--
Dan Tilque
Calvin <334152@gmail.com>: Jun 28 07:25PM -0700

On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 6:14:28 PM UTC+10, Mark Brader wrote:
 
> on the handout:
 
> http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/2-4/flags.png
 
> 1. South Africa.
 
13
 
> 2. Nepal.
 
11
 
> 3. Turkey.
 
21
 
> 4. Israel.
 
22
 
> 5. Brazil.
 
17
 
> 6. Vatican City.
 
20
 
> 7. Czech Republic.
 
14
 
> 8. Switzerland.
 
24
 
> 9. Japan.
 
18
 
> 10. Jamaica.
 
16
 
cheers,
calvin
msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Jun 28 04:08PM -0500

"Calvin":
> Not necessarily. I could be denying in my spare time.
 
Are you planning to respond to the actual protest?
--
Mark Brader, Toronto "You can fool too many of the people
msb@vex.net too much of the time." -- James Thurber
Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com>: Jun 28 10:10PM +0100


> "Calvin":
>> Not necessarily. I could be denying in my spare time.
 
> Are you planning to respond to the actual protest?
 
Was there an actual protest?
msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Jun 28 04:27PM -0500

Mark Brader:
> > Are you planning to respond to the actual protest?

Gareth Owen:
> Was there an actual protest?
 
I assumed there was an actual protest which happened to be expressed
in an amusing way.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto "People say I'm a skeptic --
msb@vex.net but I find that hard to believe."
Calvin <334152@gmail.com>: Jun 28 07:22PM -0700

On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 7:28:00 AM UTC+10, Mark Brader wrote:
> > Was there an actual protest?
 
> I assumed there was an actual protest which happened to be expressed
> in an amusing way.
 
I assumed you were just having a laugh. If there is a protest then please confirm.
 
cheers,
calvin
Erland Sommarskog <esquel@sommarskog.se>: Jun 28 09:33PM +0200

> * Game 5 (2016-06-20), Round 1 - Current Events
 
> 2. Microsoft announced last week that it would buy which social
> media company, for $26,200,000,000?
 
LinkedIn

> are pretty forgettable. So just tell us how big the cabinet
> currently is, including the Premier herself, within 1 in either
> direction.
 
24

> confirmed, that the NHL would add a franchise in *what city*,
> which currently represents the largest North American market
> without a major-league sports team?
 
St Antonio

> father, as it was turning violent -- a propane tank was thrown
> into a campfire at one point. *What topic of discussion*
> led to this heated fracas?
 
The flavour of the barbeque sauce.

> 7. Why was 94-year-old Reinhold Hanning in the news last week?
> Be sufficiently specific.
 
Sentenced for being a guard a holocaust site in WWII.
 
> mid-song on an Edmonton stage last week, or tell us which singer
> fell into a hole in a Saskatoon stage, apparently while adjusting
> his pants. You don't need to say which one you're referring to.
 
Meat Loaf

> 9. Who is the British Labour Party MP who was murdered last
> Thursday, apparently for political motives in the midst of the
> rancorous campaign over the so-called Brexit?
 
Jo Cox

> 10. A new series of public-service ads sponsored by the Government
> of Ontario, and only airing after 8:00 pm, was rolled out
> on Thursday. What problem are the ads targeting?
 
"Hey baby, it's a quarter to eight, and I'm feel I'm in the mood.
Hey baby, the hour is late, and I'm feel I'm in the mood."
 
(And, yes, there is a Canadian connection.)

> for the first time in 52 years, and a ceasefire agreement was
> signed to end (officially, at least) a conflict that had also
> lasted 52 years. In what country did this armistice take place?
 
Colombia

> 8. Corey Lewandowski lost his job last Monday. What had he been
> doing prior to this summary dismissal?
 
Campaign leader for Donald Trump
 
 
 
 
--
Erland Sommarskog, Stockholm, esquel@sommarskog.se
"Peter Smyth" <smythp@gmail.com>: Jun 28 06:11PM

Mark Brader wrote:
 
> Inquisition (QFTCI*)".
 
> * Game 5 (2016-06-20), Round 1 - Current Events
 
> 1. At the 70th Tony Awards last Sunday, which show won Best Musical?
Hamilton
> 2. Microsoft announced last week that it would buy which social
> media company, for $26,200,000,000?
Linked In
> are pretty forgettable. So just tell us how big the cabinet
> currently is, including the Premier herself, within 1 in either
> direction.
10, 13
> confirmed, that the NHL would add a franchise in *what city*,
> which currently represents the largest North American market
> without a major-league sports team?
Las Vegas
> father, as it was turning violent -- a propane tank was thrown
> into a campfire at one point. *What topic of discussion*
> led to this heated fracas?
Donald Trump
> 7. Why was 94-year-old Reinhold Hanning in the news last week?
> Be sufficiently specific.
Found guilty of war crimes
> mid-song on an Edmonton stage last week, or tell us which singer
> fell into a hole in a Saskatoon stage, apparently while adjusting
> his pants. You don't need to say which one you're referring to.
Meatloaf
> 9. Who is the British Labour Party MP who was murdered last
> Thursday, apparently for political motives in the midst of the
> rancorous campaign over the so-called Brexit?
Jo Cox
> 10. A new series of public-service ads sponsored by the Government
> of Ontario, and only airing after 8:00 pm, was rolled out
> on Thursday. What problem are the ads targeting?
STDs
> a freak accident in which his Jeep Grand Cherokee, a model that
> is subject to a recall, rolled back and pinned him against a
> pillar outside his house?
the guy who played Chekhov
> for the first time in 52 years, and a ceasefire agreement was
> signed to end (officially, at least) a conflict that had also
> lasted 52 years. In what country did this armistice take place?
Vietnam
> Sarah Polley is the producer.
 
> 6. What was unusual about a concert given last week by Italian
> composer and pianist Ludovico Einaudi ["en-OW-dee"]?
They forgot to arrange a piano
> Hot Docs Cinema?
 
> 8. Corey Lewandowski lost his job last Monday. What had he been
> doing prior to this summary dismissal?
working for Donald Trump
> up goaltender Frederik Anderson from Anaheim, but last Friday
> they did exercise their 2016 entry draft first-round #1 pick --
> to select what 18-year-old player?
 
 
Peter SMyth
Joshua Kreitzer <gromit82@hotmail.com>: Jun 28 11:16PM

msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote in news:PoidnaEHxYTc0-_KnZ2dnUU7-
 
> * Game 5 (2016-06-20), Round 1 - Current Events
 
> 1. At the 70th Tony Awards last Sunday, which show won Best Musical?
 
"Hamilton"

> 2. Microsoft announced last week that it would buy which social
> media company, for $26,200,000,000?
 
LinkedIn
 
> are pretty forgettable. So just tell us how big the cabinet
> currently is, including the Premier herself, within 1 in either
> direction.
 
15; 18
 
> confirmed, that the NHL would add a franchise in *what city*,
> which currently represents the largest North American market
> without a major-league sports team?
 
Las Vegas

> father, as it was turning violent -- a propane tank was thrown
> into a campfire at one point. *What topic of discussion*
> led to this heated fracas?
 
Donald Trump (?)
 
> mid-song on an Edmonton stage last week, or tell us which singer
> fell into a hole in a Saskatoon stage, apparently while adjusting
> his pants. You don't need to say which one you're referring to.
 
Meat Loaf

> 9. Who is the British Labour Party MP who was murdered last
> Thursday, apparently for political motives in the midst of the
> rancorous campaign over the so-called Brexit?
 
Jo Cox
 
> a freak accident in which his Jeep Grand Cherokee, a model that
> is subject to a recall, rolled back and pinned him against a
> pillar outside his house?
 
Anton Yelchin
 
> for the first time in 52 years, and a ceasefire agreement was
> signed to end (officially, at least) a conflict that had also
> lasted 52 years. In what country did this armistice take place?
 
Colombia

> 5. Netflix and the CBC announced last week that filming would begin
> later this summer on a miniseries based on what Canadian novel?
> Sarah Polley is the producer.
 
"Anne of Green Gables"

> 8. Corey Lewandowski lost his job last Monday. What had he been
> doing prior to this summary dismissal?
 
managing Donald Trump's presidential campaign

> 9. It wasn't John Bradley, it was Harold Schultz after all.
> "After all" in this case means 61 years after the event in
> question. What Second World War event are we referring to?
 
raising the flag on Iwo Jima
(and make that 71 years ago)
 
--
Joshua Kreitzer
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msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Jun 21 10:32AM -0500

Mark Brader:
> see my 2016-05-31 companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian
> Inquisition (QFTCI*)".
 
 
> I wrote one of these rounds.
 
That was the geography round. In the original game, it was tied
with the current-events round for being the easiest.
 
 
> 1. Farts are normally 99% composed of non-smelly gases such as
> oxygen, nitrogen, and carbon dioxide. The remaining 1% consists
> largely of what malodorous compound?
 
Hydrogen sulfide (H2S). 4 for Peter, Erland, and Stephen.
 
> 2. Farting is not to be confused with "eructation". What is *that*
> phenomenon commonly known as?
 
Belching or burping. 4 for Peter, Stephen, Dan Blum, Pete,
Dan Tilque, Calvin, and Bruce.
 
> 3. Some of the gases present in farts are flammable, although not
> all humans produce them. The flammable gases are specifically
> hydrogen and what greenhouse gas?
 
Methane. 4 for Björn, Peter, Erland, Stephen, Dan Blum, Dan Tilque,
and Bruce. 3 for Calvin.
 
> 4. In 2011, the Minister of Justice in a southern African country
> proposed making public farting illegal. Name the country.
 
Malawi. 4 for Stephen.
 
Everybody else guessed Zimbabwe, or Zimbabwe and another country.
Is there something I don't know going on?
 
> 5. This country, a signatory to the Kyoto Protocol, proposed a "fart
> tax" to address its uniquely high proportion of methane emissions
> from livestock compared to other sources. What country is this?
 
New Zealand. 4 for Stephen. 3 for Calvin.
 
Dan Tilque complained that this question was off-topic because,
he says, "methane from cattle mostly comes out their mouth".
 
> 6. The ability to fart at will has been used to entertain for
> centuries. It is referenced as early as the fifth century\ AD
> in a certain saintly work. Name *either* the work or the author.
 
"The City of God", St. Augustine (of Hippo). 4 for Björn, Peter,
Stephen, and Dan Blum. 2 for Calvin.
 
> the acoustic orifice? Hint: the same word also refers to the way
> brass and woodwind players apply the mouth to their instrument,
> so that it pertains to both flautists and flatulists.
 
Embouchure. 4 for Stephen. 3 for Pete and Bruce.
 
> playing "O Sole Mio" and "La Marseillaise" on an ocarina through
> a rubber tube in his anus. He could also blow out a candle from
> several yards away. Give either his stage name or his real name.
 
Le Pétomane, Joseph Pujol. 4 for Stephen, Dan Blum, Pete,
and Dan Tilque.
 
> laugh, and then make them think". Name this *prize*, which was
> also formerly described as being for discoveries "that cannot,
> or should not, be reproduced".
 
Ig Nobel Prize (for Biology). 4 for Peter, Erland, Stephen, Dan Blum,
Dan Tilque, Calvin, and Bruce.
 
> 10. The slang term "queef" refers to the expulsion of air from
> which organ?
 
Vagina. I accepted "vulva". 4 for Peter, Stephen, Dan Blum, Pete,
Dan Tilque, and Bruce.
 
 
 
> also has 5 suburbs that are either adjacent to the city or nearly
> adjacent, and have at least 200,000 people each. Name *any one*
> of these.
 
Chandler, Gilbert, Glendale, Mesa, Scottsdale. 4 for Stephen,
Dan Blum, Pete, Dan Tilque, and Bruce. 2 for Joshua.
 
> all adjacent to the city and each have over 190,000 people
> according to the 2010 census. Name *any one* of the three.
> Hint: none of them are east of the city.
 
Jersey City, Newark, Yonkers. 4 for Stephen, Joshua (the hard way),
Dan Blum, Pete, and Dan Tilque.
 
> 3. Name the Canadian city whose suburbs include Delta, Richmond,
> and Surrey.
 
Vancouver. 4 for Stephen, Joshua, Pete, and Dan Tilque.
3 for Dan Blum. 2 for Björn.
 
> 4. This Canadian city's largest suburb, the District Municipality
> of Saanich, has more population than the city itself. Another
> suburb is Esquimalt. Name the city.
 
Victoria. 4 for Stephen. 2 for Pete.
 
> adjacent to Washington. Like Washington itself, one of the two
> does not actually have the legal status of "city". Name *either*
> one of these two suburbs.
 
Arlington (county), Alexandria. 4 for Stephen (the hard way), Joshua
(the hard way), Dan Blum, Pete, and Bruce.
 
> 6. Boston also has about 600,000 residents. Of the suburbs that
> are adjacent to the city, the 5 largest have populations of at
> least 50,000 in the 2010 census. Name *any one* of them.
 
Brookline, Cambridge, Newton, Quincy, Somerville. 4 for Erland,
Stephen, Joshua, Dan Blum, Pete, and Bruce.
 
> 7. As of the 2011 census, there are 812,000 people in Ottawa,
> and 242,000 in its largest suburb. Name that suburb.
 
Gatineau. 4 for Stephen and Dan Tilque.
 
> 6 suburbs with over 150,000 each. Mississauga is the
> largest by population, with almost 670,000 people; name the
> *second*-largest, with over 430,000.
 
Brampton. 4 for Dan Tilque.
 
> 9. Name the US city whose suburbs include Burbank, Glendale,
> Irvine, Pasadena, and Santa Ana.
 
Los Angeles. 4 for Björn, Peter, Erland, Stephen, Joshua, Dan Blum,
Pete, Dan Tilque, and Bruce.
 
> 10. Name the US city whose suburbs include Aurora, Cicero, Evanston,
> Gary, and Naperville.
 
Chicago. 4 for Peter, Erland, Stephen, Joshua, Dan Blum, Pete,
Dan Tilque, and Bruce.
 
> After completing the round, please decode the rot13:
> If you said "Hull" for the suburb of Ottawa, we need a
> less specific answer. Please substitute one.
 
Hull was merged into Gatineau in 2002, but we decided to give entrants
a second chance if they forgot this.
 
 
Scores, if there are no errors:
 
ROUNDS-> 2 3 4 6 7 8 BEST
TOPICS-> Can Ent His Spo Sci Geo FOUR
Stephen Perry 24 40 40 36 40 36 156
Joshua Kreitzer 4 24 28 24 0 26 102
Pete Gayde 0 24 12 32 15 30 101
Dan Blum 0 24 24 16 24 27 99
Marc Dashevsky 0 32 20 20 -- -- 72
Dan Tilque 0 12 12 12 20 28 72
Bruce Bowler -- -- 0 28 19 20 67
Jason Kreitzer 0 20 16 12 -- -- 48
Erland Sommarskog -- -- 20 4 12 12 48
Peter Smyth 4 8 8 8 24 8 48
"Calvin" 0 12 10 7 16 0 45
Björn Lundin 0 4 7 0 8 6 25
 
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Mark Brader, Toronto "Information! ... We want information!"
msb@vex.net -- The Prisoner
 
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bbowler <bbowler@bigelow.org>: Jun 21 05:12PM

On Tue, 21 Jun 2016 10:32:44 -0500, Mark Brader wrote:
 
 
>> brass and woodwind players apply the mouth to their instrument, so
>> that it pertains to both flautists and flatulists.
 
> Embouchure. 4 for Stephen. 3 for Pete and Bruce.
 
Why 3? I gave one answer, spelled the way I learned to spell the word
from my Trumpet teacher (and I thought spelling didn't count except when
explicitly stated that it did, and for proper names and titles, but maybe
I'm wrong on that point).
"Peter Smyth" <smythp@gmail.com>: Jun 21 05:19PM

Mark Brader wrote:
 
> > Hint: none of them are east of the city.
 
> Jersey City, Newark, Yonkers. 4 for Stephen, Joshua (the hard way),
> Dan Blum, Pete, and Dan Tilque.
 
By what criteria is Newark adjacent to New York City? Jersey City is
debatable too but at least that has a water border with NYC.
 
Peter Smyth
tool@panix.com (Dan Blum): Jun 21 05:28PM

> > Dan Blum, Pete, and Dan Tilque.
 
> By what criteria is Newark adjacent to New York City? Jersey City is
> debatable too but at least that has a water border with NYC.
 
Arguably Newark has a water border with Staten Island; Elizabeth clearly
does but Newark is less clear.
 
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_______________________________________________________________________
Dan Blum tool@panix.com
"I wouldn't have believed it myself if I hadn't just made it up."
Erland Sommarskog <esquel@sommarskog.se>: Jun 21 08:44PM +0200


> Malawi. 4 for Stephen.
 
> Everybody else guessed Zimbabwe, or Zimbabwe and another country.
> Is there something I don't know going on?
 
Since the situation in general is anything but good and all sort of
weird things happens in Zimbabwe that seemed like a reasonable answer.
 
 
--
Erland Sommarskog, Stockholm, esquel@sommarskog.se
Dan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com>: Jun 21 11:50AM -0700

Mark Brader wrote:
 
 
> New Zealand. 4 for Stephen. 3 for Calvin.
 
> Dan Tilque complained that this question was off-topic because,
> he says, "methane from cattle mostly comes out their mouth".
 
It wasn't actually a complaint about being off-topic. Just me being
ah... anal-retentive....
 
 
--
Dan Tilque
msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Jun 21 02:17PM -0500

Mark Brader:
>>> brass and woodwind players apply the mouth to their instrument, so
>>> that it pertains to both flautists and flatulists.
 
>> Embouchure. 4 for Stephen. 3 for Pete and Bruce.

Bruce Bowler:
> from my Trumpet teacher (and I thought spelling didn't count except when
> explicitly stated that it did, and for proper names and titles, but maybe
> I'm wrong on that point).
 
I'm using the same rule as on the Final Jeopardy! round of "Jeopardy!":
spelling doesn't count, but the spelling you give has to be a plausible
one for the pronunciation of the word. "Embouchure" ends with the same
sound as "pure". That's not plausible for "emboucher" or "ombushier",
so I scored them as almost correct.
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msb@vex.net | in those days."
Toronto | -- Bob NE20G3018 (Ira Levin, "This Perfect Day")
 
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