Tuesday, July 26, 2022

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Erland Sommarskog <esquel@sommarskog.se>: Jul 25 11:02PM +0200

It's time for one my occasional quizzes again. This time, the theme is
national icons/heroes. Below you have a list of names of persons who are
the hero or the icon of a country, and your task is simply to identify
the country.
 
You don't have to say how the person has earned that reputation, but feel
free to add a brief explanation. In case of a tie, I will use these
explanations to settle on a winner.
 
As always, post the answers to the newsgroup. And as always, only use your
knowledge, so no googling, asking the cats or whatever.
 
I plan to score this on Saturday 30th (but it could slip a day or two,
if Swedish summer weather compels me to be outdoors).
 
 
1. Skanderbeg
 
2. Bernardo O'Higgins
 
3. King Sejong
 
4. Gustav Vasa
 
5. Taras Shevchenko
 
6. Kemal Atatürk
 
7. Toussaint Louverture
 
8. José Martí
 
9. Marianne
 
10. Julius Nyrere
 
11. José de San Martín
 
12. Muhammad Ali Jinnah
 
 
HAVE FUN!
msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Jul 25 04:49PM -0500

Erland Sommarskog:
> 1. Skanderbeg
 
Iceland?
 
> 2. Bernardo O'Higgins
 
Chile.
 
> 3. King Sejong
 
Korea?
 
> 4. Gustav Vasa
 
Sweden.
 
> 5. Taras Shevchenko
 
Russia?
 
> 6. Kemal Atatürk
 
Turkey. Or Türkiye if you must.
 
> 7. Toussaint Louverture
 
Haiti.
 
> 8. José Martí
 
Cuba.
 
> 9. Marianne
 
France.
 
> 10. Julius Nyrere
 
Kenya?
 
> 11. José de San Martín
 
Colombia?
 
> 12. Muhammad Ali Jinnah
 
Iran?
--
Mark Brader, Toronto | "...everything else in [the] list is wrong;
msb@vex.net | why should [this] be correct?" -- Rob Novak
 
My text in this article is in the public domain.
tool@panix.com (Dan Blum): Jul 26 03:13AM


> 1. Skanderbeg
 
Albania
 
> 2. Bernardo O'Higgins
 
Chile
 
> 3. King Sejong
 
(South) Korea
 
> 4. Gustav Vasa
 
Sweden
 
> 5. Taras Shevchenko
 
Ukraine
 
> 6. Kemal Atat?rk
 
Turkey
 
> 7. Toussaint Louverture
 
Haiti
 
> 8. Jos? Mart?
 
Cuba
 
> 9. Marianne
 
France
 
--
_______________________________________________________________________
Dan Blum tool@panix.com
"I wouldn't have believed it myself if I hadn't just made it up."
Joshua Kreitzer <gromit82@hotmail.com>: Jul 25 09:59PM -0700

On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 4:02:18 PM UTC-5, Erland Sommarskog wrote:
 
> 1. Skanderbeg
 
Albania

> 2. Bernardo O'Higgins
 
Chile
 
> 3. King Sejong
 
Korea (inventor of the Hangul writing system)
 
> 4. Gustav Vasa
 
Sweden
 
> 5. Taras Shevchenko
 
Ukraine

> 6. Kemal Atatürk
 
Turkey (founder of the modern country in the early 20th century)
 
> 7. Toussaint Louverture
 
Haiti (leader of the slave revolt against France)
 
> 8. José Martí
 
Cuba (poet)
 
> 9. Marianne
 
France (symbolic female personification of the country)
 
> 10. Julius Nyrere
 
Tanzania
 
> 11. José de San Martín
 
Argentina
 
> 12. Muhammad Ali Jinnah
 
Pakistan (first prime minister of the country following the partition from India)
 
--
Joshua Kreitzer
gromit82@hotmail.com
msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Jul 25 04:46PM -0500

These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2012-06-25,
and should be interpreted accordingly. All questions were written
by members of What She Said and/or of Smith & Guessin', but have
been reformatted and may have been retyped and/or edited by me.
I will reveal the correct answers in about 3 days.
 
For further information, including an explanation of the """
notation that may appear in these rounds, see my 2021-07-20
companion posting on "Reposted Questions from the Canadian
Inquisition (RQFTCI*)".
 
 
* Game 8, Round 7 - Entertainment - Oscar's Slogans
 
For this round you will be given the advertising tagline from an
Academy Award Best-Picture-winning movie, and you name the movie.
 
1. "A hero will rise."
2. "Collide with destiny."
3. "All it takes is a little confidence."
4. "The happiest sound in all the world!"
5. "His whole life was a million-to-one shot."
6. "Whoever saves one life, saves the entire world."
7. "Inside everyone is a frontier waiting to be discovered."
8. "With the right song and dance, you can get away with murder."
 
9. "The Man... The Music... The Madness... The Murder... The Motion
Picture!"
 
10. "What does it take to find a lost love?
A. Money B. Luck C. Smarts D. Destiny"
 
 
* Game 8, Round 8 - Canadiana - The Forest Industry
 
1. Which province """is""" the largest exporter of lumber?
 
2. In January 2012, the Obama administration rejected the Keystone
XL Pipeline proposal. What "olive branch" did the US throw
Canada to soothe the situation?
 
3. The US imports """the largest amount""" of Canadian lumber.
What country imports the """next most"""?
 
4. The Beaver Lumber Co. got its start in 1883 as the Banbury
Bros. Lumber Co. It became Beaver in 1904. It was owned by
Molson Breweries from 1972 until 2000. What company bought it
in 2000?
 
5. Nominal dimensions of lumber in Canada refer to the dimensions
of fresh-sawed wood. Hence, a "2×4" is exactly 2 inches by
4 inches when cut at the sawmill. After drying and planing
(or dressing), what are the standard dimensions of the "2×4"
when purchased at retail?
 
6. What does the acronym "SPF" in SPF lumber represent?
 
7. According to Statistics Canada, what is the most popular
Christmas tree grown in Canada? Be specific. *Note*: This
question has not been updated; the original answer is required.
 
8. Which part of the birch tree is used to make birch beer?
 
9. A quaking aspen is described by the US Forest Service as
"North America's largest tree". What unusual feature of the
quaking aspen makes this possible?
 
10. What common drug was derived from a substance in the bark of
willow trees?
 
--
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Toronto Did compile and load upon the vax:
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And Lisp ran in GNU EMACS.
--Larry Colen (after Lewis Carroll)
 
My text in this article is in the public domain.
tool@panix.com (Dan Blum): Jul 26 03:11AM


> * Game 8, Round 7 - Entertainment - Oscar's Slogans
 
> 2. "Collide with destiny."
 
Crash; Titanic
 
> 5. "His whole life was a million-to-one shot."
 
Slumdog Millionaire
 
> 6. "Whoever saves one life, saves the entire world."
 
Schindler's List
 
> 8. "With the right song and dance, you can get away with murder."
 
Chicago
 
> * Game 8, Round 8 - Canadiana - The Forest Industry
 
> 1. Which province """is""" the largest exporter of lumber?
 
British Columbia
 
> 3. The US imports """the largest amount""" of Canadian lumber.
> What country imports the """next most"""?
 
Japan
 
> 7. According to Statistics Canada, what is the most popular
> Christmas tree grown in Canada? Be specific. *Note*: This
> question has not been updated; the original answer is required.
 
Norway spruce
 
> 8. Which part of the birch tree is used to make birch beer?
 
bark
 
> 9. A quaking aspen is described by the US Forest Service as
> "North America's largest tree". What unusual feature of the
> quaking aspen makes this possible?
 
it sends up multiple trunks from one root system
 
> 10. What common drug was derived from a substance in the bark of
> willow trees?
 
aspirin
 
--
_______________________________________________________________________
Dan Blum tool@panix.com
"I wouldn't have believed it myself if I hadn't just made it up."
Joshua Kreitzer <gromit82@hotmail.com>: Jul 25 09:56PM -0700

On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 4:46:22 PM UTC-5, Mark Brader wrote:
 
 
> For this round you will be given the advertising tagline from an
> Academy Award Best-Picture-winning movie, and you name the movie.
 
> 3. "All it takes is a little confidence."
 
"The Sting"

> 4. "The happiest sound in all the world!"
 
"The Sound of Music"
 
> 5. "His whole life was a million-to-one shot."
 
"Rocky"

> 6. "Whoever saves one life, saves the entire world."
 
"Schindler's List"
 
> 7. "Inside everyone is a frontier waiting to be discovered."
 
"Dances with Wolves"

> 8. "With the right song and dance, you can get away with murder."
 
"Chicago"
 
> 9. "The Man... The Music... The Madness... The Murder... The Motion
> Picture!"
 
"Amadeus"
 
> 10. "What does it take to find a lost love?
> A. Money B. Luck C. Smarts D. Destiny"
 
"Slumdog Millionaire"
 
> * Game 8, Round 8 - Canadiana - The Forest Industry
 
> 1. Which province """is""" the largest exporter of lumber?
 
Quebec; Ontario
 
> 3. The US imports """the largest amount""" of Canadian lumber.
> What country imports the """next most"""?
 
China

> 7. According to Statistics Canada, what is the most popular
> Christmas tree grown in Canada? Be specific. *Note*: This
> question has not been updated; the original answer is required.
 
Douglas fir

> 8. Which part of the birch tree is used to make birch beer?
 
bark
 
> 9. A quaking aspen is described by the US Forest Service as
> "North America's largest tree". What unusual feature of the
> quaking aspen makes this possible?
 
what appears to be one tree is actually just part of a much larger plant
 
> 10. What common drug was derived from a substance in the bark of
> willow trees?
 
aspirin
 
--
Joshua Kreitzer
gromit82@hotmail.com
msb@vex.net (Mark Brader): Jul 25 04:44PM -0500

Mark Brader:
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2012-06-25,
> and should be interpreted accordingly... I will reveal the correct
> answers in about 3 days.
 
Oops, I prepared the posting yesterday and then forgot to actually
post it when the 3 days were up. Sorry about that.
 
> Factbook and have been updated.
 
> Note that when referring to capitals, some questions ask for the
> city and others for the country.
 
This was the hardest round in the original game, and contained
several problematic questions or answers. I was able to fix some
of them, but not all.
 
> be about 40 miles or 65 km, to a point on the US border near
> Ogdensburg, NY, whereas for Washington it would be about 290
> miles or 465 km to a point near Ft. Erie, ON.)
 
Canberra, Australia (to Fiordland National Park, New Zealand).
4 for Dan Tilque and Joshua.
 
I have sympathy for those who guessed Wellington, New Zealand.
It's about 1,350-1,365 miles (2,175-2,200 km) away from the
nearest points in mainland Australia or Tasmania. But Lord Howe I.,
population 350, is several hundred miles or kilometers off the
Australian coast and is part of New South Wales, Australia; and it's
only about 1,095 miles (1,765 km) from Wellington.
 
> *share a common land border* -- excluding overseas territories
> distant from the home country or its main part -- is 3,985 miles
> or 6,414 km. Name *either one* of these two capital *cities*.
 
Moscow (Russia), Pyongyang (North Korea). 4 for Dan Blum and Joshua.
3 for Erland.
 
Without the exclusion for distant overseas territories -- in this
case French Guiana -- the answers would be Brasilia and Paris at
about 5,425 miles or 8,730 km.
 
> on the same continent, which is Asia; and this time you only
> have to name one of the *countries*, not a city. The distance
> is 2,770 miles or 4,459 km.
 
As you see from the distance given, the intended answer was
Indonesia (Jakarta) and Papua New Guinea (Port Moresby); but the
latter is not always considered to be in Asia. Unlike the original
question setters, I am therefore also accepting the next best pair
at 2,594 miles or 4,174 km: China (Beijing) and Afghanistan (Kabul).
4 for Dan Blum, Joshua, and Erland.
 
> 4. Name the non-EU country that """has""" the longest total length
> of land border with one or more EU (European Union) countries,
> at 1,513 miles or 2,435 km.
 
Russia (the main part with Finland, Estonia, and Latvia; and the
Kaliningrad Oblast with Lithuania and Poland). (Still true.)
4 for Joshua.
 
Norway is next -- 1,476 miles or 2,375 km (with Sweden and Finland)
-- and was the answer originally expected by the question setters,
with that distance given in the question. In fact, the Usual Suspects
scored in our game with this answer. But I'm not accepting it here;
it's clearly wrong.
 
By the way, Switzerland is third.
 
> 5. Same question except with "shortest" instead of "longest".
> The length is 2.1 miles or 3.4 km.
 
Vatican City (with Italy). 4 for Dan Blum, Dan Tilque, and Erland.
3 for Joshua.
 
Monaco is second at 3.7 miles or 6 km (with France).
 
> Name *both* countries of such a pair. (If you make two guesses,
> for clarity please give two countries both times even if one
> of them is the same in the two guesses.)
 
Malaysia and Singapore (about 520 m or 1,700 feet across the Johor
Strait at 1°26'N, 103°56'E, and not much more than that for most of
their border); Denmark and Sweden (about 3.7 km or 2.3 miles across
the Öresund or Øresund at 56°2'N, 12°39'E); and Russia and the US
(just about the same distance at Big and Little Diomede Island,
about 65°46'N, 168°59'W). 4 for Dan Tilque and Joshua.
 
As to the four African countries, the tensions between them have now
relaxed enough to resolve the question, and Namibia and Zimbabwe
now form a fourth -- and still closer -- pair on the list. It is
now agreed that, within the Zambezi River, they are separated by
about 150 m or 500 feet; and a bridge -- the Kazungula Bridge -- now
crosses that short bit of the river to connect Zambia and Botswana.
 
The original version of this question had Denmark and Sweden as the
sole expected answer.
 
Italy and Monaco are a near miss; that distance is 5.1 miles or
8.2 km.
 
> them; but which former Soviet republic """pairs with Russia"""
> to be in second place for this statistic, at 4,750 miles or
> 7,644 km?
 
Kazakhstan. (Still true.) 4 for Dan Tilque, Joshua, and Erland.
3 for Dan Blum.
 
> comes within 24 miles, or 38 km, from the """19th-largest"""
> country by size, without touching. What is this 19th-largest
> country that Kazakhstan is so so close to, yet so so far from?
 
Mongolia. (Still true; the ranking assumes that Greenland does not
count as part of Denmark.) 4 for Joshua and Erland.
 
As to the wrong answers, Kazakhstan has a border over 1,000 miles
long with Uzbekistan, but is roughly 300 miles from touching either
Iran or Pakistan. Iran is indeed about the same size as Mongolia,
but the other two are much smaller.
 
> these two national shrinking leaders? *Note*: I believe the
> the situation described is no longer true, so for this question
> only the original answer based on 2010-11 will be accepted.
 
Detroit River. (Detroit - Warren - Livonia MSA dropped 156,528
from 4,452,778 to 4,296,250; Windsor CMA dropped 4,096 from 323,342
to 319,246.) 4 for Dan Blum and Dan Tilque. 2 for Joshua.
 
> neighbors, i.e. countries with which a nation shares a common
> land border, at 14. What is the other nation that also has 14
> direct neighbors?
 
China. (Still true. Vietnam, Laos, Myanmar [Burma], India,
Bhutan, India again, Nepal, India yet again, Pakistan, Afghanistan,
Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan, Russia, Mongolia, Russia again,
North Korea.) 4 for everyone -- Dan Blum, Dan Tilque, Joshua,
and Erland.
 
 
 
> 1. The biggest news in soccer """this summer""" is the Euro 2012
> Tournament. What country won """the last""" Euro competition,
> in 2008?
 
2008 answer: Spain. 2021 answer: Italy. (Like with the Olympics,
the 2020 tournament was played in 2021.) 4 for Erland.
 
> have won the most league titles. Name *any one* of the *other*
> """three""" teams that have won England's Premier League since
> its inception in 1992.
 
2012 answer: Arsenal, Blackburn Rovers, Chelsea. 2022 answer: Also
Leicester City and Liverpool. 4 for Dan Blum, Dan Tilque, and Joshua.
3 for Erland.
 
> 3. Baseball is played on a diamond, basketball on a court; what
> is the proper name in English for a soccer field?
 
Pitch. 4 for Dan Blum, Dan Tilque, and Joshua.
 
> 4. Excluding the usual "injury time" and halftime, how long is a
> regulation professional soccer game?
 
90 minutes. 4 for Dan Tilque and Joshua. 3 for Erland.
 
> a local rivalry. Although it originated in England, this
> term is used throughout the world for such fixtures, even in
> non-English-speaking nations. What is it?
 
Derby ["DAR-bee", like the English city]. 4 for Joshua and Erland.
 
> 6. Two of the longest-running and most famous <answer 5>s in soccer
> are the "Merseyside" <answer 5> and the "Old Firm" <answer 5>.
> Name *any one* of the four teams involved in these two rivalries.
 
Everton, Liverpool, Glasgow Celtic, Glasgow Rangers. 4 for
Dan Tilque, Joshua, and Erland.
 
> what dubious outcome can befall a team in a European or South
> American national soccer league if they end a season in last
> place?
 
As in the Canadian Inquisition, they are relegated to the league or
division one level down. 4 for everyone.
 
> part of CONCACAF, the "Confederation of North, Central American
> and Caribbean Association Football". What is the name of the
> biannual tournament played by the national teams within CONCACAF?
 
Gold Cup. 4 for Dan Tilque, Joshua, and Erland.
 
> 9. Canada """has only appeared in one""" FIFA World Cup Final
> (i.e. the current 32-team tournament for men, not just the
> championship game). Give *either* the year or the host nation.
 
1986, Mexico. (Still true, but Canada has qualified for the 2022
event later this year.) 4 for Erland.
 
> bribery and buying votes and of it being glaringly obvious
> that FIFA had not considered many consequences of hosting the
> tournament there.
 
Qatar. 4 for Dan Tilque, Joshua, and Erland.
 
 
Scores, if there are no errors:
 
GAME 8 ROUNDS-> 2 3 4 6 TOTALS
TOPICS-> Can Art Geo Spo
Joshua Kreitzer 25 42 37 32 136
Dan Blum 28 38 23 12 101
Erland Sommarskog 32 8 23 34 97
Dan Tilque 20 22 24 28 94
Pete Gayde 21 32 -- -- 53
 
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Toronto | that Mother Nature is our friend. Wrong; dead wrong.
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| and she loves surprises." -- Henry Spencer
 
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